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So, it's 1 am my time now.
WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.
I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.
Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.
It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?
Anyway, make the right decision, nighty.
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There is no case on Cyber_Cheese, at least, not in the quick readthrough I did. In the quote you posted, all it says is that Cyber_Cheese is doing many things at once. I certainly would not go about it in the way he did, but it is no indication that he is red. I see no reason why he is intentionally trying to distract the thread. If you look at the rest of his posts, he seems to be trying to figure stuff out. In a game where the thread is so chaotic that as mafia, he really doesn't need to do that. Plenty of townies try to do too many things at once, so jumping around from topic to topic doesn't say anything about alignment. Unhelpful? Yes, but not an indication of red.
"Denying mayor or sheriff is huge for scum, so I believe it's worth it to have as many scum run as possible."
Generally wrong. Mafia don't need both spots, and generally have a hard time getting both. They just need 1, and they need a strong candidate to do so. You can generally tell just from reading the player roster who actually stands a chance before the game starts. It is far fetched to think that the mafia is going to field their entire roster just to get a higher chance of getting elected, since as you can tell, mayor elections aren't random. Running for mayor also puts you in the spotlight. For example, 3 mafia in PYP Interesting pretty much outed themselves just by giving a half-assed campaign. Denying isn't really that crucial in this game since there are no PMs. (Offices are much more powerful with PMs because now you have unkillable people who are able to coordinate behind the scenes. With no PMs, that is not an issue).
General Announcement to the Mafia: I will certainly heavily analyze the two bodyguards before the night is over. Just letting you know in case you were thinking of subbing in members.
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I'm all up for a sandroba lynch. So that means I'm still sticking my vote on BM.
Cyri would be fine as well.
However I feel BC is a coinflip for me. I don't want him to be mayor at all and I still don't want to lynch palmar right now.
Conclusion: Bill murras is the way to go for me and I will try to make you unvote BC :p
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On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!!
Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?
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Since there are 3 people currently in the running for mayor, (BM, BC and protac) It seems obvious that the mafia would all throw thier support behind one.
For many reasons already stated several times, BC seems to be that person, and since we wouldn't want him to hold either position, I am going to vote for bill murray, because he is in danger of losing to BC most. I think both BC and protac are likely town, so those two would be the best two to hold positions, so I will vote BM to keep BC from taking the position of sherrif.
##vote Bill Murray.
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On January 15 2012 10:33 Munk-E wrote:
Since there are 3 people currently in the running for mayor, (BM, BC and protac) It seems obvious that the mafia would all throw thier support behind one.
For many reasons already stated several times, BC seems to be that person, and since we wouldn't want him to hold either position, I am going to vote for bill murray, because he is in danger of losing to BC most. I think both BC and protac are likely town, so those two would be the best two to hold positions, so I will vote BM to keep BC from taking the position of sherrif.
##vote Bill Murray.
o.0
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On January 15 2012 10:29 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 06:09 VisceraEyes wrote:Okay, the answer: Vote VE for Mayor! Wait did he just say..... YES! VE has retardedly outted himself as a Town Jack by trying to daykill C_C. What an idiot, right? But hear me out. My case on CC is this: He's scummily inconsistent in his posting. Like take this post for example. He states in no uncertain terms that A) he's not going to vote for BC and also B) Palmar must be scum based on Occam's Razor. In this post he encourages me to stay in the mayoral race because he's voting for me. Here, he goes a step further and changes his lynch choice to BC.Wait a minute...he already said he agreed with the case on Palmar...Occam's Razor remember?In this post, he tries to shirk responsibility for Macpo's stance on BC (Macpo very clearly cites CC for changing his view on BC) by claiming it was actually Hydractinum that his post was based on. As town, I'd be flattered if one of my posts changed someone's mind, I certainly wouldn't try to say it was SOMEONE ELSE who actually did the legwork...especially if I'm seeking election! Okay, here's the post. In this post, he not only reverses his stance on BC, but he does so by saying "BC isn't as bad a candidate as everyone is making him out to be." Really? You've been one of his biggest detractors! Your campaign is based on LYNCHING BC! Interestingly, he also puts me on a lynch list....WHILE HIS VOTE FOR MAYOR IS STILL ON ME!!! This is so fucking damning guys. Now his vote is on BC. Now, I'm going to probably be roleblocked and killed tonight...we can avoid this by making me one of the elected officials. If I'm elected mayor, I'll lynch the fuck out of C_C. A Vote For VisceraEyes Is A Vote For Town Victory!!!! Is this nothing? Can someone experienced tell me why this is nothing?
You are cursed, like me. You tried to dayvig someone with your ability, and despite your good intentions, peolpe won't view you as reliable. It's a shame really, you are easily the best choice for mayor IMO. But with two hours left I don't think it's happening.
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Reading back through thread,
On January 14 2012 21:45 Jayjay54 wrote:5) Echelon Show nested quote +On January 14 2012 04:17 Jayjay54 wrote: On January 14 2012 04:02 EchelonTee wrote:
@jay, it was a posting mistake, that would be a pretty sorry way to try and get town credit. I have spreadsheets and stuff, which is where it came from. its not good practice imo to post tells without substantiation, thus I would've rather not posted that tidbit. And what's with the -mafia tag, is that just a dig at my post?
I don't like foolishness but that doesn't mean bm is bad. will return to this again later.
Current opinion on BC: wouldn't it have been better to get elected then mason one of your bodyguards? To get a tell on them? You already had a good shot at getting elected... I don't see as this scum though, more like a weird gambit.
Posted from phone, will post more later. You posted TL links. How is this coming from a spreadsheet? Do you have links in your spreadsheet? The mafia tag was a dig, yes. Your thoughts on BM and BC are right, though I am still waiting for an explanation here. Seriously. Step up.
Do I really have to precisely explain how my post style works? Is it REALLY that suspicious that I put a tag there? Think about if I as a mafia would I ever do that; if you really think so then there's nothing I can do to convince you. I said it was a posting mistake immediately after posting it. I don't want to clutter thread up with back and forth talking, as the thread is growing so big, but you seem intent on pushing me on this.
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On January 15 2012 10:35 Jitsu wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:33 Munk-E wrote:
Since there are 3 people currently in the running for mayor, (BM, BC and protac) It seems obvious that the mafia would all throw thier support behind one.
For many reasons already stated several times, BC seems to be that person, and since we wouldn't want him to hold either position, I am going to vote for bill murray, because he is in danger of losing to BC most. I think both BC and protac are likely town, so those two would be the best two to hold positions, so I will vote BM to keep BC from taking the position of sherrif.
##vote Bill Murray. o.0
rofl welcome to the game Munk-E now you need to start making some sense asap.
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Protact, why do you want to "save BC for later"? What happened to make you change your mind to lynch him, and instead lynch Macpo? It seems like you were very convinced as to BC's scumminess, so why would you hold off on lynching him? Does that mean that you're not as sure of your read anymore?
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On January 15 2012 00:57 Toadesstern wrote:I'm visiting my sis so I'm out for a couple of hours. However I still have a couple of people I have no idea about. I'm just leaving you with a list of 5 or so names and if you see your name on that list I'd like to know who you want to vote for mayor and if you had to decide the first lynch who it would be. I'm only mentioning people I think might read this, so thx if you do: + Show Spoiler +5. risk.nuke
9. Kenpachi (you won't answer this right?)
11. EchelonTee
14. Liquid`Sheth
20. Ciryandor
49. Scamp turns out I got 6 names instead of only 5 but yeah that's it for now.
Still reading through thread, this is on page 52. I would vote for Meapak/BM, lynch Ciry/Palmar. I don't support lynching sandroba or BC. Obviously am not done reading yet.
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On January 15 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
So, it's 1 am my time now.
WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.
I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.
Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.
It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?
Anyway, make the right decision, nighty.
I don't need an explicitly written case just because someone who I think is scum asks for one. I really don't understand what mafia players attempt to accomplish when they insist there's no case on them and then demand one. It's just a waste of time.
Which, I suppose, is a win for you. You love wasting time as scum.
Cases don't become invalid because they use meta. The fact that you're suggesting something that Cyber_Cheese would agree with is pretty damning of you. (no offense, Cyber_Cheese, but it's clear you don't actually understand how powerful meta is)
Also, it's funny you choose to defend yourself and have not put forth ANYTHING about anyone you think is scum, and go to sleep only a few hours before deadline instead of actually doing something productive. You have no interest in town affairs beyond looking townie or at least surviving till day 2 because this town is full of pussies who aren't willing to lynch a vet day 1.
Man up, all of you, and lynch this guy.
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Oh my god, it took forever for me to read through the thread. But I've done it.
Bill Murray is definitely best choice for mayor. He is making a lot of sense and I am starting to like his case on Sandroba. Sandroba hasn't followed up much on his candidacy which makes me feel weird about maintaining my vote on him (also, he he has no chance of winning the election  )
Proactinium wants to kill Macpo because Macpo is being apologetic. That case is weak; when I was a noob I was also apologetic. He has a much more in-depth case on BC, but doesn't want to lynch BC. This seems a bit weird to me.
FoS on the 3 people who voted WBG.
FoS on L for asking VE who he wants to shoot.
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Get your votes off Protact+VE.
At least one of them is very likely to be scum at this point.
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All mayoral candidates must PM both flamewheel and myself the person that you will lynch should you be elected. One hour left in the day.
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On January 15 2012 10:59 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
So, it's 1 am my time now.
WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.
I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.
Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.
It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?
Anyway, make the right decision, nighty. I don't need an explicitly written case just because someone who I think is scum asks for one. I really don't understand what mafia players attempt to accomplish when they insist there's no case on them and then demand one. It's just a waste of time. Which, I suppose, is a win for you. You love wasting time as scum. Cases don't become invalid because they use meta.
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On January 15 2012 10:20 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On January 15 2012 10:14 wherebugsgo wrote:
Lanaia, if you agree with lynching Palmar can you explain why you don't want me elected?
Who are you looking at voting for?
I don't particularly care for getting elected. All I care about is scum dying. So far I don't think macpo is scum and none of the other candidates have come up with anything promising. So, that means the only option to get Palmar lynched is to elect me in to office.
(this is suboptimal, for reasons I won't explicitly explain) you think sandroba is town?
not at this time, no.
I have no reason to believe sandro is town, but likewise I don't have much reason to believe he is scum either.
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ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...
Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.
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On January 15 2012 11:04 Nisani201 wrote:
ffffffffffffffffffffffuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuu i pressed post by accident...
Anyways, WBG, a case based entirely on meta IS invalid. If Palmar acts like this in D2, we can treat him like a lurker. We should all expect scumhunting from him tomorrow, but until then, the case on him is stupid.
no, it isn't.
It's not even completely based on meta. CC and Palmar just keep asserting that it's completely based on meta on the fact that I summed it up with one word, saying meta.
The reason I summed it up was to bait to see if Palmar would spin that I had no case. He did exactly that.
You don't find it weird that he wants VE in office despite calling VE bad over and over? What's the use of electing someone bad to an office that protects them? What's the use if VE would never get shot?
Why would Palmar not run for office if he's town?
Why would Palmar suddenly support Protact and provide no reason for it?
Why is Palmar not scumhunting?
Why is Palmar focusing so much on defending himself when it's only me who is attacking him? He focused on defending himself so much, in fact, that he's literally commented on nothing else. Which is not that shocking, I suppose, since he hasn't done anything to begin with.
Why do Palmar's only two non-one-liner posts contain almost 100% fluff?
None of these are meta reasons to kill Palmar, yet no one cares.
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On January 15 2012 10:24 Palmar wrote:
So, it's 1 am my time now.
WBG, I think you're town, however, you're playing terribly. You don't have a case on me, you've never written one up. If you remove meta from your case you're literally stuck with nothing.
I suggest we put visceraeyes and protactinium in the office. I would prefer a BC or Cyri lynch, maybe even sandroba.
Anyone who's town and voting for someone that intends to lynch me, needs to take a look at what they're doing, because I'm not the one playing badly, I've simply posted less than usual. There is nothing you have on me expect meta, thus the case is completely invalid, and when I flip town, you will have proven yourselves to be really dumb and bad.
It's one thing voting for a bad case, but voting for a non-existant one?
Anyway, make the right decision, nighty.
Okay guys. Palmar needs to die. His choices for the office make no sense from a townpalmars point of view.
On December 14 2011 23:48 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes For the love of god. If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play.
why that Palmar?
On December 15 2011 03:24 Arctocod wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 02:51 VisceraEyes wrote:On December 14 2011 23:48 Arctocod wrote:On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote:
Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes For the love of god. If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play. Real nice. Like, it's a wonder new people play here at all with vets who actively attempt to prevent people from enjoying games they join. Fuck this, Fuck you. I don't care if it was Syllo or Palmar who posted this, it's unacceptable and you should get a ban for it. You're fucking vets, people fucking listen to you. If I die overnight because of your stupid bullshit, I'm seriously never fucking playing here again. I like most new people. I actually go out of my way to get new people involved. I dislike playing with people who actively sabotage games they're in. Until your town play becomes good enough to hold you accountable for doing stupid stuff, it's simply not fun playing with you. There is no way to figure you out when you're mafia because you cannot be lynched for being wrong, because you're almost always wrong as town too. It's annoying because simply having you in the game decreases town's chance of winning, regardless of your alignment. But, I am going to completely stop being a dick to you for now, and since that outburst looked pretty townie to me, I'm going to assume you're town. Please change my opinion of you.
Ah because he's annoying and terrible...
Since when did you change your mind about VE? Since he shot bum? the scummy lurker?
Seriously. Palmar I don't buy that story at all.
Whoever is elected into office NEEDS to shoot Palmar.
It's so easy.
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