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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:52 GMT
#3681
On January 23 2012 08:38 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy

he was rb'ed n3 if I understood it correct.

Found sandroba n1
Found a blue n2
roleblocked n3

Obviosuly I don't know if he checked sandroba n1 or n2 (neither do I know if he claimed which night it was by heart). If he did not check roba n1 it's vice versa. Nevertheless, don't tell the name

On January 23 2012 08:36 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.


One less VT to shoot is one shot more likely to hit power roles.


im not sure if this is intentionally bad reasoning or not...
Together but separate, like oatmeal
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 23 2012 00:10 GMT
#3682
On January 21 2012 09:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:25 Slardar wrote:
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM.


They're all scum? Is that what you want to say? pfff You guys. Sometimes I don't know what you're thinking.
This setup is somehow balanced.
I am 100% sure that at least 2 of these guys are town.

I am working throgh the thread right from the beginning and sorting my lists and copy quotes. it's incredibly annoying to deal with stupid things like this all the time.

I mean. If I reread your filter in endgame. What do I think? If no funny coincidence confirms you as town, you're free to lynch in my eyes. You're unjudgeable. We have to get rid of people like this.


I think here supersoft is showing scumsigns.Bc and Foolishness I do suspect, partly because of meta on foolish, he's normally very active as town, and a great town player. This game he has done almost nothing. BC/Foolish are getting too much credit because of Protact right now.
Furthermore,unjudgeable means 80% town/20% scum, it's really not profitable to get rid of people randomly.
If they're not active they're gonna get modkilled anyway.
The solution would be to put the pressure onto these kind of guys,make them post relevant stuff so they can make mistakes.

Supersoft looks very scum to me.

Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 23 2012 00:16 GMT
#3683
On January 23 2012 09:10 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:30 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:25 Slardar wrote:
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM.


They're all scum? Is that what you want to say? pfff You guys. Sometimes I don't know what you're thinking.
This setup is somehow balanced.
I am 100% sure that at least 2 of these guys are town.

I am working throgh the thread right from the beginning and sorting my lists and copy quotes. it's incredibly annoying to deal with stupid things like this all the time.

I mean. If I reread your filter in endgame. What do I think? If no funny coincidence confirms you as town, you're free to lynch in my eyes. You're unjudgeable. We have to get rid of people like this.


I think here supersoft is showing scumsigns.Bc and Foolishness I do suspect, partly because of meta on foolish, he's normally very active as town, and a great town player. This game he has done almost nothing. BC/Foolish are getting too much credit because of Protact right now.
Furthermore,unjudgeable means 80% town/20% scum, it's really not profitable to get rid of people randomly.
If they're not active they're gonna get modkilled anyway.
The solution would be to put the pressure onto these kind of guys,make them post relevant stuff so they can make mistakes.

Supersoft looks very scum to me.


Why does that post make him scummy?
Enjoy your day.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 23 2012 00:24 GMT
#3684
Because he dissmisses BC/Foolish too easily as town and that he wants to lynch slardar on the basis he's unreadable, which is basically a RANDOM lynch.
Look at GGQ, town attacked him for bad posts and supposedly sofdefending macpo.
Honestly, he too was unreadable, because he simply made no sense.
Someone apparently decided that he was scum, when it really wasn't that likely.

When you look for scum, you capitalize on changes in behaviour, or disruptiveness.
Not complete lack of logic.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2012 00:25 GMT
#3685
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite


what the fuck
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 00:25 GMT
#3686
On January 23 2012 09:10 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 21 2012 09:30 supersoft wrote:
On January 21 2012 09:25 Slardar wrote:
Interesting to note BC, Protract and Foolishness all immediately have taken votes off BM.


They're all scum? Is that what you want to say? pfff You guys. Sometimes I don't know what you're thinking.
This setup is somehow balanced.
I am 100% sure that at least 2 of these guys are town.

I am working throgh the thread right from the beginning and sorting my lists and copy quotes. it's incredibly annoying to deal with stupid things like this all the time.

I mean. If I reread your filter in endgame. What do I think? If no funny coincidence confirms you as town, you're free to lynch in my eyes. You're unjudgeable. We have to get rid of people like this.


I think here supersoft is showing scumsigns.Bc and Foolishness I do suspect, partly because of meta on foolish, he's normally very active as town, and a great town player. This game he has done almost nothing. BC/Foolish are getting too much credit because of Protact right now.
Furthermore,unjudgeable means 80% town/20% scum, it's really not profitable to get rid of people randomly.
If they're not active they're gonna get modkilled anyway.
The solution would be to put the pressure onto these kind of guys,make them post relevant stuff so they can make mistakes.

Supersoft looks very scum to me.



well we talked about that as well and we just thought that L+sandroba+ another vet sounds reasonable strong but sandro + L + 2 vets would be an overkill imo. Yeah nothing you can go by but I really don't think that we'll end up having something like BC + foolish being mafia as well.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2012 00:31 GMT
#3687
On January 22 2012 23:30 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:46 sandroba wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.

Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line.

I was walking down the street one day and I suddenly a foul scent hit my nose. I was like what the shit, where the fuck is this coming from? Did I just step on human fesses or what? After checking my feet and realizing it was clean I looked around and spotted a horrid looking creature that dropped 2 terrible posts in the begging of a game then was never heard of again. It was ciryandor. Protact had warned me about his unpleasant presence. Right then I decided I would rid the world of such disturbing annoyance and thus I hit him repeatedly over the head with my grandma's shoes. He finally succumbed, bored into oblivion. I felt victorious after checking my grandma's shoes and realizing a crimson taint had soaked them. Life was good. Being mayor made me proud. The whole idea of being elected to kill some random dude and being able to single handedly execute it was exciting. I stretched out my arm and an eagle landed on it. Fuck yes I'm a boss.


I just want to remind people that this is probably the fucking funniest thing I've ever read while going back through people's posts.

I laughed so hard at this LOL.

Anyway, something funny that struck me from sandro's filter is this:


On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.


Like, all the people sandro wants to lynch, I'm pretty sure, were scum; most likely scum that he felt he could not defend any longer. This is actually what sandro does as scum; he busses people like hell because he thinks they are super obvious scum to everyone.

Macpo he could not defend because Foolish/Protact attacked him. L he could not defend because everyone saw he was playing the same way he played in Responsibility. Is it a stretch to say that he could not defend GGQ either? I don't think so.

Also note how he tells myself, super, and toad to "get off my balls." This makes all 3 of us look far more town.

On January 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
@BC LOL man you could have redacted a few parts from that shit that I don't even remember talking about.

WBG, supersoft and toadstem need to get off my balls. My weekends are pretty busy and I did my best with the little time I had. I don't even know why the fuck you are calling me mafia on the first place.

As for who I think is mafia I got GGQ, Jackal and rgtICEMAN. I'm going to read dead guy's filters before I choose which one to push today, but they could very easily be all mafia. Brb.


Also note how he later rescinds his opinion about Jackal (he flips from day 1 liking Jackal to not liking Jackal to being unsure)

On January 17 2012 03:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm not quite sure on him because jackal is freaking jackal, but last time he was town i could tell right away and he did put in some effort and got killed early on. He just seems lazy and jumping on convenient stuff and he is back to his usual useless one line posting which he used to do as both alignments. He's either made a step back or he is scum this game, I need more to decide accurately, but I'm leaning scum on him atm.


whereas for L, GGQ, Macpo, and Ciryandor he's just like "fuck man this guy's scum he smells fucking bad kill him" The only exception is when Macpo is seriously close to dying, then he sheds some doubt on the lynch.

Meapak, I think, has been correct about GGQ this entire time, but just hasn't been going about it properly. Of course, our job is easy; if GGQ is not scum, I'm almost 100% sure Meapak is, because that's the only target he's tunneled. The reason I say this is because Meapak has had several days to contribute and yet he's always been focused on tunneling GGQ. Normally I'd be uncomfortable with aligning flips like that, and certainly if GGQ is town it'd be difficult to lynch Meapak (since there are things in Meapak's filter, notably what he said about L, that make him look town) but I think we have to consider the big picture instead of letting little things prevent us from making hard decisions.



wbg please tell me how you meant that red bolded statement.


basically, sandro flipped scum, right?

So far all the people he has called out have actually flipped scum. The exception is GGQ, and that's pretty much because everyone was calling out GGQ (he also expressed doubt about GGQ but didn't about anyone else).

Now, it makes the 3 of us look more town, but I don't think it means much more than that. I took it with a heavy grain of salt, since sandro called out GGQ and he was town, Toad could very well still be scum and he could have just been saying stuff in thread just for the hell of it.

Also I read your logs with Toad and I lol'd at the part you guys talked about me LOL. Toad ist ein Pimmelzwerg!

Also, what do you think of Toad at this point? What did you get from that conversation?
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 23 2012 00:33 GMT
#3688
Don't argue about probabilities. I don't think L's and sandro's flip have any implications on BC/foolish 's alignment.
wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
January 23 2012 00:37 GMT
#3689
On January 23 2012 09:33 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Don't argue about probabilities. I don't think L's and sandro's flip have any implications on BC/foolish 's alignment.


who do you want to lynch and why?

You say one of VE and hiro is scum...but no vote?
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 23 2012 00:40 GMT
#3690
BM, BM. Read my filter,the only reason I haven't voted yet is that I wanna hear Hiro's check N2. Then I'll vote, if there's nothing fishy about it, i'll vote BM, as I did D3.
VisceraEyes
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United States21171 Posts
January 23 2012 00:56 GMT
#3691
On January 23 2012 09:37 wherebugsgo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 09:33 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Don't argue about probabilities. I don't think L's and sandro's flip have any implications on BC/foolish 's alignment.


who do you want to lynch and why?

You say one of VE and hiro is scum...but no vote?


Scum coaching. Oh GAWD.

Promise me you'll wait until the double-lynch day to lynch me guys. VE OUT
if I had to describe his playstyle, it'd be a coked up rabbit with the attention of a goldfish injecting caffeine into himself directly through an IV drip. it's like a reel of random animated shorts where things just blow up randomly
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 01:26 GMT
#3692
[QUOTE]On January 23 2012 09:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 23:30 supersoft wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 22 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 14 2012 16:46 sandroba wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 14 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
[QUOTE]On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.[/QUOTE]
Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line.[/QUOTE]
I was walking down the street one day and I suddenly a foul scent hit my nose. I was like what the shit, where the fuck is this coming from? Did I just step on human fesses or what? After checking my feet and realizing it was clean I looked around and spotted a horrid looking creature that dropped 2 terrible posts in the begging of a game then was never heard of again. It was ciryandor. Protact had warned me about his unpleasant presence. Right then I decided I would rid the world of such disturbing annoyance and thus I hit him repeatedly over the head with my grandma's shoes. He finally succumbed, bored into oblivion. I felt victorious after checking my grandma's shoes and realizing a crimson taint had soaked them. Life was good. Being mayor made me proud. The whole idea of being elected to kill some random dude and being able to single handedly execute it was exciting. I stretched out my arm and an eagle landed on it. Fuck yes I'm a boss.[/QUOTE]

I just want to remind people that this is probably the fucking funniest thing I've ever read while going back through people's posts.

I laughed so hard at this LOL.

Anyway, something funny that struck me from sandro's filter is this:


[QUOTE]On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.[/QUOTE]

Like, all the people sandro wants to lynch, I'm pretty sure, were scum; most likely scum that he felt he could not defend any longer. This is actually what sandro does as scum; he busses people like hell because he thinks they are super obvious scum to everyone.

Macpo he could not defend because Foolish/Protact attacked him. L he could not defend because everyone saw he was playing the same way he played in Responsibility. Is it a stretch to say that he could not defend GGQ either? I don't think so.

Also note how he tells myself, super, and toad to "get off my balls." This makes all 3 of us look far more town.

[QUOTE]On January 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
@BC LOL man you could have redacted a few parts from that shit that I don't even remember talking about.

WBG, supersoft and toadstem need to get off my balls. My weekends are pretty busy and I did my best with the little time I had. I don't even know why the fuck you are calling me mafia on the first place.

As for who I think is mafia I got GGQ, Jackal and rgtICEMAN. I'm going to read dead guy's filters before I choose which one to push today, but they could very easily be all mafia. Brb.
[/QUOTE]

Also note how he later rescinds his opinion about Jackal (he flips from day 1 liking Jackal to not liking Jackal to being unsure)

[QUOTE]On January 17 2012 03:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm not quite sure on him because jackal is freaking jackal, but last time he was town i could tell right away and he did put in some effort and got killed early on. He just seems lazy and jumping on convenient stuff and he is back to his usual useless one line posting which he used to do as both alignments. He's either made a step back or he is scum this game, I need more to decide accurately, but I'm leaning scum on him atm.[/QUOTE]

whereas for L, GGQ, Macpo, and Ciryandor he's just like "fuck man this guy's scum he smells fucking bad kill him" The only exception is when Macpo is seriously close to dying, then he sheds some doubt on the lynch.

Meapak, I think, has been correct about GGQ this entire time, but just hasn't been going about it properly. Of course, our job is easy; if GGQ is not scum, I'm almost 100% sure Meapak is, because that's the only target he's tunneled. The reason I say this is because Meapak has had several days to contribute and yet he's always been focused on tunneling GGQ. Normally I'd be uncomfortable with aligning flips like that, and certainly if GGQ is town it'd be difficult to lynch Meapak (since there are things in Meapak's filter, notably what he said about L, that make him look town) but I think we have to consider the big picture instead of letting little things prevent us from making hard decisions.

[/QUOTE]

Also I read your logs with Toad and I lol'd at the part you guys talked about me LOL. Toad ist ein Pimmelzwerg!
[/QUOTE]
That's not a nice thing to say
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 01:27 GMT
#3693
On January 23 2012 10:26 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 09:31 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 22 2012 23:30 supersoft wrote:
On January 22 2012 11:32 wherebugsgo wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:46 sandroba wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:31 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 14 2012 16:26 sandroba wrote:
Alright people I want to get elected and no one is fucking voting for me. What do you want me to do so you would fucking vote? Tell me and I'll do it. I have plenty of time right now and I can post random useless shit if that's what get's you voting.

Turn everything you do into about 3 paragraphs, even if it could have been a line.

I was walking down the street one day and I suddenly a foul scent hit my nose. I was like what the shit, where the fuck is this coming from? Did I just step on human fesses or what? After checking my feet and realizing it was clean I looked around and spotted a horrid looking creature that dropped 2 terrible posts in the begging of a game then was never heard of again. It was ciryandor. Protact had warned me about his unpleasant presence. Right then I decided I would rid the world of such disturbing annoyance and thus I hit him repeatedly over the head with my grandma's shoes. He finally succumbed, bored into oblivion. I felt victorious after checking my grandma's shoes and realizing a crimson taint had soaked them. Life was good. Being mayor made me proud. The whole idea of being elected to kill some random dude and being able to single handedly execute it was exciting. I stretched out my arm and an eagle landed on it. Fuck yes I'm a boss.


I just want to remind people that this is probably the fucking funniest thing I've ever read while going back through people's posts.

I laughed so hard at this LOL.

Anyway, something funny that struck me from sandro's filter is this:


On January 18 2012 03:27 sandroba wrote:
Although I'm not entirely convinced that macpo is sure mafia due to sheer terribleness of his insane rambling, we still have to get rid of him at some point due to the amount of players suspicious of him. This talk about no opposition to his lynch is in no way indicative of him being innocent. Mafia is not likely to openly oppose a lynch that has so much support and so far only 28 out of 44 voters have cast their votes. Still I feel way more confident lynching GGQ or L. Double lynch needs at least 9 more votes to go through and I'd really like to get at least one red killed today.


Like, all the people sandro wants to lynch, I'm pretty sure, were scum; most likely scum that he felt he could not defend any longer. This is actually what sandro does as scum; he busses people like hell because he thinks they are super obvious scum to everyone.

Macpo he could not defend because Foolish/Protact attacked him. L he could not defend because everyone saw he was playing the same way he played in Responsibility. Is it a stretch to say that he could not defend GGQ either? I don't think so.

Also note how he tells myself, super, and toad to "get off my balls." This makes all 3 of us look far more town.

On January 17 2012 01:26 sandroba wrote:
@BC LOL man you could have redacted a few parts from that shit that I don't even remember talking about.

WBG, supersoft and toadstem need to get off my balls. My weekends are pretty busy and I did my best with the little time I had. I don't even know why the fuck you are calling me mafia on the first place.

As for who I think is mafia I got GGQ, Jackal and rgtICEMAN. I'm going to read dead guy's filters before I choose which one to push today, but they could very easily be all mafia. Brb.


Also note how he later rescinds his opinion about Jackal (he flips from day 1 liking Jackal to not liking Jackal to being unsure)

On January 17 2012 03:28 sandroba wrote:
I'm not quite sure on him because jackal is freaking jackal, but last time he was town i could tell right away and he did put in some effort and got killed early on. He just seems lazy and jumping on convenient stuff and he is back to his usual useless one line posting which he used to do as both alignments. He's either made a step back or he is scum this game, I need more to decide accurately, but I'm leaning scum on him atm.


whereas for L, GGQ, Macpo, and Ciryandor he's just like "fuck man this guy's scum he smells fucking bad kill him" The only exception is when Macpo is seriously close to dying, then he sheds some doubt on the lynch.

Meapak, I think, has been correct about GGQ this entire time, but just hasn't been going about it properly. Of course, our job is easy; if GGQ is not scum, I'm almost 100% sure Meapak is, because that's the only target he's tunneled. The reason I say this is because Meapak has had several days to contribute and yet he's always been focused on tunneling GGQ. Normally I'd be uncomfortable with aligning flips like that, and certainly if GGQ is town it'd be difficult to lynch Meapak (since there are things in Meapak's filter, notably what he said about L, that make him look town) but I think we have to consider the big picture instead of letting little things prevent us from making hard decisions.



Also I read your logs with Toad and I lol'd at the part you guys talked about me LOL. Toad ist ein Pimmelzwerg!

That's not a nice thing to say

EBWOP: sry massive quote fail
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 23 2012 02:04 GMT
#3694
supersoft more logs with toadesstern like you promised would be great. I see Nisani dismissing all of my claims and analysis with nothing but a "they are too crazy to be true." Please give analysis to disprove my theories. I'm all ears. For now you are dismissing stuff without discussion and making yourself look less town.

on the continued push for a BM lynch. You guys all know my statements but although Bill has acted like an idiot and needs to die as he is useless and a distraction if he is Mad Hatter somehow after all. If he is mafia we should kill him. If he is Mad Hatter we should still kill him because he is bad for town atmosphere, but we should wait one day, two at the most to kill him. He may be an idiot and bad for town atmosphere but he may still have good reads. Bills meta actually confirms his bad for town atmosphere meta. This is one of the only good revelations that came out of yesterday. He isn't a danger to us anyways. He has no sway with town and I don't see him ever getting any. The risk/reward scenario here I think is not as tasty looking as our other candidates that I have presented.

I'm pleased to see rgTheSchworz is following why supersoft is scummy and he joins a growing list of people who are suspicious of him. I have yet to see analysis past the occam's razor hypothesis that several have presented in bc's defense and I still want him to be the one you guys consider for death today.

I want to continue to point out the shady behavior of the people I have listed as likely scum that has continued throughout the day:

BC - has campaigned for BM's death. That is fine considering the circumstances. Does not build his own case, relies on the deceased Protactinium. Has never provided valid analysis of is cronies (ss and fool). He asserts that I am dumb but does not attack my logic. He has not posted any real analysis today.
supersoft - has continued to solidify his shady nature. has presented random lynch candidates. shows little direction and does not concern himself with major town issues for the most part.
Foolishness - has made a grand total of two posts today. He has made his short vote post and attacked my character. Nothing else pro town. This goes against an established meta of being a quality, hard-working town.

I have established clear links between these players and ALL of them are acting dodgy and not answering the reasonable doubts I present against all of them. Is it possible that one of them is lazy town and doesn't bother to see the merit some of my posts have raised? Yes. Is it possible anymore than one of them acts so glaringly un-town in regards to my accusations? No it is extremely unlikely all three are acting this dodge unless they are mafia.

Their inaction is speaking in regards to their brethren is speaking just as loud as many of their actual scummy actions have this game people. Please follow me on this. I love the way town is questioning themselves and making deductions right now. The analysis on hiro has been excellent and something we don't want to lose sight of either. But today we make our move. We go after the mafia kingpin BloodyC0bbler.

Please join me.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 23 2012 02:06 GMT
#3695
need I also point out BC has not gone to his chat logs as a defense? that is one of the strongest bargaining chips he has but he has not emphasized them at all. He has let other people make those assertions for him. If you are using this as a reason to hold you back from voting for him please think: "Isn't it shady he isn't putting more focus on those logs? Shouldn't he be reinforcing and bolstering those assumptions that other town have made?"
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
January 23 2012 02:10 GMT
#3696
Guys even if you want to kill BM we can still do that but we need to at least put pressure on BC with our votes. Bandwagoning a BM lynch right now is doing us NO GOOD AT ALL.

BM is winning the lynch vote in a runaway here for the second day in a row. He is at something like 11 or 12 votes to BC's 3 and a few other random votes.

I see a lot of pro-town attitudes in here and they are great, I'm glad to see it, it is helping my reads and others reads a ton. But think about how we are applying pressure here. We are grossly underutilizing this portion of the power we have as town. We have 25 hours left in day. Plenty of time to rectify this.
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Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 02:18 GMT
#3697
On January 23 2012 11:04 p4NDemik wrote:
supersoft more logs with toadesstern like you promised would be great.

We agreed not to post them until deadline next night. That is before mafia kills people. There is no need to post them right away as clearly neither supersoft nor I am an candidate for lynch. Even if you think otherwise we can at least agree on "we're no lynch candidate for today" because there's bigger fish in here.
The reason we don't want to publish more right now is because we are talking about EVERYONE, therefor the majority will be "yeah I think he is town" and we don't want to show mafia where we're right and where we are wrong. That would help them a lot considering night kills.

Also my vote on BM is more of a placeholder. I'd really like to lynch someone else first. Slardar looks really bad, so does glurio and opz looks reasonable bad as well. I realy don't like the fact that BC is pushing for a lynch himself when he is one of those who are suspicious.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 02:23 GMT
#3698
however I could translate the first one if you want me to. As already mentioned it's really not too hard to understand what's in there if you really want to. You just ctrl+f a name and google-translate that passage. So I don't see harm in translating that because mafia already has that information if they really want to know.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 23 2012 02:31 GMT
#3699
On January 23 2012 11:23 Toadesstern wrote:
however I could translate the first one if you want me to. As already mentioned it's really not too hard to understand what's in there if you really want to. You just ctrl+f a name and google-translate that passage. So I don't see harm in translating that because mafia already has that information if they really want to know.

Really?
Life can only kill you once.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 23 2012 02:33 GMT
#3700
On January 23 2012 11:31 Jackal58 wrote:
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On January 23 2012 11:23 Toadesstern wrote:
however I could translate the first one if you want me to. As already mentioned it's really not too hard to understand what's in there if you really want to. You just ctrl+f a name and google-translate that passage. So I don't see harm in translating that because mafia already has that information if they really want to know.

Really?


well if wbg is able to insult me in german and is able to read the part about him I guess you guys are able to understand it with google translater as well just that you're not curious enough to translate every single line with google?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
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