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p4NDemik
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p4NDemik
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On January 23 2012 11:40 Toadesstern wrote: yeah I'm translating right now, give me a moment. WBG can check it afterwards I'm not even fluent in German, I can just understand the gist of it lol at any rate the log isn't terribly important to our needs. I care more about what supersoft thinks about you right now. The problem I'm having with supersoft is that he's still minimally contributing in the thread. There are scum masons, and it's not like we've actually had the balls to kill one of the confirmed masons yet. We KNOW they're masons, sure, that's great, but we don't know their alignments. They can't all be town IMO. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On January 23 2012 11:06 p4NDemik wrote: need I also point out BC has not gone to his chat logs as a defense? that is one of the strongest bargaining chips he has but he has not emphasized them at all. He has let other people make those assertions for him. If you are using this as a reason to hold you back from voting for him please think: "Isn't it shady he isn't putting more focus on those logs? Shouldn't he be reinforcing and bolstering those assumptions that other town have made?" My actions speak for themselves. If people want to lynch me for them I get lynched. Spending too much time defending myself and not enough time reading the thread and trying to sort my reads properly has been a massive issue this game. Also. trying to cast doubt on me because im not frequently pointing at things I have done this game as "defense" is a terrible move and screams desperation. People can read those logs and come to their own conclusion or ask questions for clarification. Me spending time to walk you all through them is pointless and serves no purpose this game aside from waste time. How about today, you do what I have had to do, which is step back and take a deep breathe. Once you've calmed down, re enter the thread and rather than out and out tunneling someone, begin reading the thread again. Its a long process I am aware but god knows tunneling on one target does not help anyone. You have pushed me and pushed me hard. Yet thats more or less all you have done is super push on me. Stop tunneling and look at the game either more objectively or realize your case for the day has been made and move onto analyzing new people. Spending all your time in one spot helps no one. Even I have made that mistake this game. | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
I have provided analysis on more players in this game than anyone. I've has more guts than anyone else in making logical arguments for the existence of multiple other mafia other than you. It should be obvious by now that I have been suspicious of you as mafia for some time now. Indeed if it was practical or I thought it was the right play yesterday I would have come at you. I was diametrically opposed to you all of the last day. Yet I did not tunnel you. I did not question you. I did not push for your lynch. I set aside that suspicion and pushed for a handful of other lynches and was receptive to your ideas. But just because I am pushing you for a lynch now does not mean I am tunneling you. I have a bead and many other reads on a lot of other players and I have pointed out other potential mafia. I still advocate a lynch of BM, I just believe that we have a better play available today. tunnel-vision is not considering anything or anyone outside of you. I am doing quite the opposite of that yet multiple people have made this fallback attack on me. i'd urge town that want productive conversation to consider the actual definition of the term and not throw this bs at me. | ||
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Jackal58
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Toadesstern
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Took me some time but I was bored anyways. Idk if I will translate the next logs afterwards :p Here you go: + Show Spoiler + [15:02] <supersoft> scumteamt meeting in here or what' up? [15:02] <Toad|> it' always that crowded [15:02] <supersoft> ok [15:02] <supersoft> let's start [15:02] <Toad|> only eran is new to me [15:02] <supersoft> give me your email [15:02] <supersoft> and I'll send you something [15:02] <Toad|> THAT IS MY EMAIL YOU SPAMMERS [15:02] <Toad|> E-MAIL CENSORED BY SOPA [15:02] <supersoft> so that we can work on it simultaneously [15:04] <supersoft> who died tonight? [15:04] <supersoft> well [15:04] <supersoft> icognito+ [15:05] <Toad|> ggq [15:05] <Toad|> protact [15:05] <Toad|> scamp [15:05] <supersoft> ggq [15:05] <supersoft> k [15:05] <Toad|> already send the file? [15:06] <Toad|> haven't got a thing [15:06] <supersoft> ok now [15:06] <supersoft> just updated it [15:06] <supersoft> those are 3 lists I started early on [15:06] <supersoft> I wanted to talk about those with the ones I masoned [15:06] <supersoft> unfortunately [15:06] <supersoft> I picked L and sandroba [15:07] <supersoft> Those two weren't exactly as cooperative [15:07] <supersoft> as I thought [15:07] <supersoft> and both died pretty fast [15:07] <supersoft> well [15:07] <Toad|> I've still got my problems with VE [15:08] <Toad|> that guy gives me the creeps [dit.cc says it's "to lose it" but that's not really what I was saying] [15:08] <supersoft> ok wait [15:08] <supersoft> my plan is [15:08] <supersoft> every guy [15:08] <supersoft> who did something good [=protown] [15:08] <supersoft> gets out of that list [15:09] <Toad|> good like found mafia or like the guy posts protown? [15:09] <supersoft> yeah exactly [15:09] <supersoft> anyway [15:09] <supersoft> who claimed what? [15:10] <supersoft> Ve was joat right? [15:10] <Toad|> hiro / erandorr are DT and confirmed townie I guess [15:10] <supersoft> jitsu glurio and BC are mason [15:10] <supersoft> yeah [15:10] <supersoft> got that as blue in my list [15:10] <supersoft> have you gotten my list btw? [15:10] <Toad|> yeahyeah [15:11] <supersoft> well [15:11] <supersoft> I made everyone white in my list [15:11] <supersoft> except for eran and kita [15:12] <supersoft> kita is town for me [15:12] <supersoft> because he run for mayor early on [15:12] <supersoft> and cyri attacked him early on [something stronger than attack perhaps] [15:12] <supersoft> and said he'd much rather have sandroba or palmar [15:12] <supersoft> palmar is town [15:12] <Toad|> yeah [15:13] <supersoft> and somehow it wasn't really foreseeable that he's not running for mayor [?!?that's what he said] [15:13] <supersoft> and sandroba flipped mafia [15:13] <Toad|> think kita is town as well and I'm only having a single problem with one of his posts [15:13] <supersoft> which one? [15:13] <Toad|> think he posted early on something along the lines "I won't give you tipps on how to play a blue role or that you should not use your vig-shot n1" in his campaign [15:13] <Toad|> something like that [15:14] <supersoft> yes [15:14] <supersoft> well [15:14] <Toad|> implies pretty hart that he is actually just doing it [15:14] <supersoft> that's usual gossip [15:14] <Toad|> especially with all the blue-sniping in here [15:14] <supersoft> yeah that's right. They haven't killed a mason yet [15:14] <supersoft> well that's kind of obvious [15:14] <supersoft> because I assume [15:14] <supersoft> that all their masons claimed [15:14] <supersoft> and if they start shooting townmasons [15:15] <supersoft> only mafia masons will be left over [15:15] <supersoft> which obviously would suck [15:15] <Toad|> yeah [15:15] <Toad|> but weird [not realy but don't know how to translate that] how many vigs already died [15:15] <supersoft> that'S why I think that at least one out of glurio + jitsu is mafia [15:15] <Toad|> someone knows what he's doing [15:16] <supersoft> 3 vigs right? [15:16] <supersoft> another important thing [15:16] <Toad|> think so [15:16] <supersoft> did incognito interline some weird reads? [15:17] <Toad|> well he gave some reads he didn't really back up [15:17] <supersoft> ok whatever [15:17] <supersoft> look at jayjay [15:17] <supersoft> what do you think? [15:17] <Toad|> jayjay is clear town imo [15:18] <supersoft> good [15:18] <supersoft> same here [15:18] <Toad|> tries to help, seems to be new but he also seems to be open with what he says [15:18] <supersoft> p4ndemic [15:18] <supersoft> (apart from him falling in love with me) [15:18] <Toad|> p4n seems a little strange. I think it's the same as jj but he's overdoing it a little bit. [15:18] <supersoft> yes [15:19] <supersoft> besides [15:19] <Toad|> I'd say town as well [15:19] <supersoft> let's put this log online [15:19] <supersoft> so that jayjay can read this [15:19] <supersoft> and noone else understands it [plan failed] [15:19] <Toad|> yeah [15:19] <supersoft> :D [15:19] <Toad|> kk [15:19] <supersoft> quite convenient [15:19] <supersoft> it's like masoning him as well at the same time [15:19] <Toad|> :D [15:20] <supersoft> ok next [15:20] <supersoft> WBG [15:20] <Toad|> well wbg is obviously hard for me [15:20] <Toad|> talking about staying neutral on him [15:21] <supersoft> try saying something objective [15:21] <supersoft> I got my own thoughts about him [15:21] <supersoft> :D [15:21] <supersoft> I've got to test you a little bit as well :D [15:22] <Toad|> well I think he's tunneling a lot, thinks he's right with everything he says and therefor doesn't listen to other people at all [15:22] <Toad|> but that's what he does as townie [15:22] <supersoft> yeees [15:22] <supersoft> ok [15:22] <supersoft> what wbg does [15:22] <Toad|> I read his filter and besides him tunneling me so much because he doesn't think I'm able to get that d1 read on palmar, I've got nothing that makes him look mafia [15:22] <supersoft> when he's mafia [15:22] <supersoft> he kisses up to people [that's what dict.cc says!] [15:23] <Toad|> well yeah like I mentioned, yes extremly strange and if we find ourselves in a spot like we found 8 mafias and don't know who to lynch next I'm up for a lynch [15:23] <Toad|> but unless that happens I'd say town [15:24] <supersoft> ok [15:24] <supersoft> I had the same feeling [15:25] <supersoft> that he's a townie [15:25] <supersoft> what I don't like about him [15:25] <Toad|> well I'm just remembering something [?!?] [15:25] <Toad|> he too did one single post I did not like [15:25] <supersoft> yes [15:25] <supersoft> that one post in which he mentiones the three of us [15:25] <supersoft> let' me take a look [15:25] <supersoft> that post is extremly strange [15:25] <Toad|> somewhere he posted "sandroba said 'toad, SS und wbg need to get off my balls'" [15:25] <Toad|> exactly [15:25] <supersoft> haha yes [15:26] <supersoft> I have to take a look [15:26] <supersoft> if he's referring to you [15:26] <Toad|> feels extremly contrived [u][?[]/u] as if tries to get towncred [15:26] <supersoft> and says he's wrong about you [15:26] <supersoft> yes [15:26] <supersoft> something like that [15:26] <supersoft> wait [15:26] <supersoft> could be he worde it strange and meant something different [15:27] <Toad|> yeah it just totaly stands out for me [15:27] <Toad|> he's been after me for 3 days [15:27] <Toad|> out of nowhere suddenly posts "oh apropos, that's making us 3 look really good" [15:27] <Toad|> and continues to tunnel me [15:27] <supersoft> yes [15:27] <supersoft> no [15:28] <supersoft> that's badly worded [15:28] <supersoft> he tries to use it as an argument [15:28] <supersoft> against us [15:28] <Toad|> got a link? [15:28] <supersoft> because it makes us look mafia [15:28] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=60039¤tpage=All [15:28] <supersoft> bottom 10% [15:28] <supersoft> of that page [15:29] <Toad|> why's my ctrl+f not working anymore?  [15:30] <supersoft> I quoted it [15:30] <supersoft> and asked him [15:30] <supersoft> what he wanted to say [15:31] <supersoft> let's wait [15:31] <supersoft> how he responds [15:31] <supersoft> net one [15:31] <Toad|> yes [15:31] <supersoft> risk.nuke [15:31] <Toad|> so if he really wants to say it makes the three of us look good that'S bad for him [15:31] <supersoft> what do you say? [15:31] <Toad|> hard one, had a d1 read [15:31] <Toad|> d1 town read [15:31] <supersoft> ok [15:31] <Toad|> simply because I don't believe a mafia would run a campaign like that [15:32] <supersoft> same here [15:32] <supersoft> yes [15:32] <supersoft> risk.nuke is not really clever [15:32] <supersoft> but nonetheless pretty confident [15:32] <supersoft> somehow his activity his dropping rapidly right now [15:32] <Toad|> yeah [15:32] <supersoft> might be because this game's so big [15:33] <supersoft> he's probably a little overwhelmed [15:33] <Toad|> since d3 I got some mafia vibes from him [15:33] <supersoft> and can't find a guy to tunnel [15:33] <supersoft> yeah doesn't have to be that way [15:33] <supersoft> I'd say town [15:33] <supersoft> simply useless [15:33] <Toad|> well the problem with that d1 read is that if he's really mafia [15:33] <supersoft> that'd mean he's good [15:33] <supersoft> :D [15:33] <Toad|> someone else could have told him to run that campaign [15:33] <supersoft> no [15:34] <supersoft> he did that on his own [15:34] <supersoft> because [15:34] <supersoft> it's clear [15:34] <supersoft> noone is going to vote him [15:34] <supersoft> idk, why should mafia send someone like that to run for mayor [15:34] <supersoft> if he's not going to matter [15:34] <supersoft> basicly that was this kind of an action [15:34] <Toad|> well to confuse people like us :p [15:34] <supersoft> that noone but he himself understands [15:34] <supersoft> yes [15:34] <Toad|> but I think there's no sense in what I said [15:35] <Toad|> they've got the risk to instantly lose a mafia buddy [15:35] <supersoft> yes [15:35] <supersoft> he's just like that [15:35] <Toad|> anf if it works out they got a newby that looks like a townie, wohoo [15:35] <supersoft> in electionmafia [15:35] <supersoft> ist er auch total steil gegangen I really have no idea how to translate that one [15:35] <supersoft> because he thought I bussed 3 of my teammates [15:36] <supersoft> how ever you'd call that in german "bussed" [15:36] <supersoft> "ans messer geliefert" <--- teh german [15:36] <supersoft> just to get some towncred [15:36] <supersoft> that boy [15:36] <supersoft> is just beyond good and evil [15:36] <Toad|> oh, since this is german I don't have to look out who I'm insulting right? [15:37] <Toad|> except for jayjay: if you're reading this, you're awesome :3 [15:37] <Toad|> but yeah, risk is a town read for me, not the best one but I'd say I'm right there [15:38] <supersoft> by the way [15:38] <supersoft> am reading [15:38] <supersoft> opz is mason as well [15:38] <Toad|> do you have some sort of special order in which we're talking about people? [15:38] <Toad|> yes [15:38] <supersoft> well no [15:38] <supersoft> it's random [15:38] <supersoft> just suggest the next one [15:39] <Toad|> only vets and lurker left...^^ [15:39] <supersoft> fuck [15:39] <Toad|> I've got my problems with nisan [15:39] <supersoft> yes [15:39] <Toad|> what do you say? [15:39] <supersoft> that's the kind of guy you can just lynch whenever [15:39] <Toad|> because I can't judge this guy, at all [15:39] <supersoft> no question [15:41] <supersoft> you said somewhere [15:41] <supersoft> you're blue [15:41] <Toad|> am VET [15:41] <Toad|> if that's what you're referring too [15:41] <supersoft> "I know I'm blue as well" [15:41] <Toad|> I claimed that within the thread [15:41] <supersoft> k [15:41] <supersoft> understood [15:41] <supersoft> come on [15:41] <supersoft> I'm not getting all those claimes in time [u][don't know, like it's too many claims][u] [15:42] <supersoft> who claimed as well [15:42] <Toad|> yes [15:42] <Toad|> I wrote them all down [15:42] <Toad|> but I can't use ctrl+f for some reason. If I could I'd just seearch "claim" [15:43] <supersoft> yeah don't sweat it [15:43] <supersoft> okay [15:43] <supersoft> ok [15:44] <Toad|> now it's starting to get hard :p [15:44] <supersoft> seems like we have to get through all the lurkers [15:44] <supersoft> w [15:44] <supersoft> http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=253716&user=52329 [15:44] <Toad|> I'd say lanaia is town as well [15:44] <supersoft> go [15:44] <supersoft> yes [15:44] <supersoft> that girl [15:44] <supersoft> :D [15:44] <supersoft> so funny [15:44] <supersoft> in a nother game I... [15:44] <Toad|> well she's so wishy-washy [15:44] <supersoft> YES [15:44] <supersoft> that's her all the time [15:44] <Toad|> with little self confidence as far as I can see [15:44] <supersoft> :D [15:45] <supersoft> yesyesyes [15:45] <supersoft> cute [15:45] <Toad|> she did the same as town in XLVIII [15:46] <supersoft> [censored by sopa!] :p [15:46] <Toad|> oh [15:46] <Toad|> 8( [15:47] <Toad|> yeah thought you're already at jaj22 [15:47] <supersoft> noo [15:47] <supersoft> take a look [15:47] <supersoft> at what he posts about sandroba [15:47] <supersoft> yeah [15:48] <Toad|> when did he join the game? [15:48] <Toad|> d2? [15:48] <supersoft> oh [15:48] <supersoft> who did he replace? [15:48] <supersoft> that's fucked up [15:48] <supersoft> :D [15:48] <supersoft> I thought [15:48] <supersoft> lolol he's starting the game with a defense on sandroba and macpo [15:49] <Toad|> don't know who he replaced right now [15:49] <Toad|> wait think I got that post somewhere [15:50] <Toad|> well seems like no [15:50] <supersoft> nevermind [15:50] <supersoft> anyways [15:50] <supersoft> he'S defending two mafias [15:51] <supersoft> and nails GGQ [15:51] <supersoft> without any analysis [15:51] <Toad|> yeah [15:51] <Toad|> but that already made you and wbg think I'm mafia [15:52] <Toad|> well I thought jaj22 is town until now [15:52] <supersoft> doesn't look like it [15:52] <supersoft> when reading the filter [15:52] <supersoft> :D [15:52] <Toad|> also when he said "@Toad: You know this isn't a majority lynch, right? I don't see any town reason to vote for someone you think is town this early." [15:52] <Toad|> yu think a mafia would post something like that? [15:53] <Toad|> mafia want to place their vote somewhere and he's telling me it's not extended majority? [15:54] <supersoft> uh [15:54] <supersoft> well idk [15:54] <supersoft> why not [15:55] <supersoft> it's just general talk [15:55] <supersoft> that's always easy as mafia [15:55] <Toad|> probably [15:55] <supersoft> as if someone would do that [15:55] <supersoft> it's always like that [15:55] <supersoft> when someone does a plan [15:55] <supersoft> that's never really going to happen [15:55] <Toad|> well he asks a lot of questions [15:56] <Toad|> isn't afraid to attack someone [15:56] <supersoft> wait where [15:56] <Toad|> well he at leasts says a couple of times that I'm talking bullshit [15:57] <supersoft> yes [15:57] <Toad|> talking about modhunting [15:57] <supersoft> well, [15:57] <supersoft> you'll see [15:57] <supersoft> it's getting to hot for him somewhere over here [15:57] <supersoft> he changes sides and starts attacking sandroba [15:57] <supersoft> and that's it with his activity [15:57] <supersoft> :D [15:57] <supersoft> yes [15:58] <supersoft> what do you say about orange? [15:58] <supersoft> as a prestage to mafia? [15:58] <Toad|> " [15:58] <Toad|> What? Toad was trying to protect his scumbuddy GGQ and get his scumbuddies Sandroba and Macpo lynched instead? I don't buy the Palmar lynch influence knowledge point because it's quite plausible that Toad just jumped to a conclusion. I don't think it's even an illogical conclusion from the "compromise" post." [15:58] <Toad|> after protacts case against me [15:58] <Toad|> because protact said I'm mafia, sandroba is mafia, ggq is mafia and macpo is mafia [15:58] <Toad|> which just doesn't make sense at all [15:58] <supersoft> geht [idk] [15:58] <supersoft> lol [15:59] <Toad|> but fine, orange is fine with me [15:59] <Toad|> god, now I have to know who he replaced [16:00] <supersoft> yes [16:00] <supersoft> right [16:00] <supersoft> I'm confused as well [16:00] <supersoft> zeks? [16:01] <Toad|> lol [16:01] <Toad|> both asked at the same time [16:01] <supersoft> that was stupid [16:01] <supersoft> well actually [16:01] <Toad|> know everyone knows you masoned me [16:01] <supersoft> we're going to post the log anyways [16:01] <Toad|> well everyone who read your log will know that anyways [16:02] <supersoft> possibly ^-^ [16:02] <supersoft> I'm posting this log for jayjay. Maybe he can already contribute something. | ||
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Bill Murray
United States9292 Posts
I didnt realize he died I guess I was wrong on him that is pretty much proof im town though if you think about it | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
On January 23 2012 12:43 p4NDemik wrote: this is not the first time I have been accused of tunneling why does this keep coming up I have provided analysis on more players in this game than anyone. I've has more guts than anyone else in making logical arguments for the existence of multiple other mafia other than you. It should be obvious by now that I have been suspicious of you as mafia for some time now. Indeed if it was practical or I thought it was the right play yesterday I would have come at you. I was diametrically opposed to you all of the last day. Yet I did not tunnel you. I did not question you. I did not push for your lynch. I set aside that suspicion and pushed for a handful of other lynches and was receptive to your ideas. But just because I am pushing you for a lynch now does not mean I am tunneling you. I have a bead and many other reads on a lot of other players and I have pointed out other potential mafia. I still advocate a lynch of BM, I just believe that we have a better play available today. tunnel-vision is not considering anything or anyone outside of you. I am doing quite the opposite of that yet multiple people have made this fallback attack on me. i'd urge town that want productive conversation to consider the actual definition of the term and not throw this bs at me. I agree with nearly everything you said, except about BC being scummier then BM. No one is ignoring you, just stop the yelling. Everything you refer in your mayor voting analysis favors BM as scum much more heavily then BC. One mafia has flipped on BC's wagon (though not many others were killed), but several are on bill's. Bill's comment on sandroba was so fleeting that I doubt he would follow through with it. Other then that, BM got pushed JUST as much as BC did. All I'm saying is, we are on the stronger lynch path right now. BM is immediately hazardous as scum, while BC is more long term hazardous. BC has been very careful with his votes, so aside from Palmar and Kingjames, he has been on mafia. His 3x vote power has not been utilized effectively in favor of scum. Worst case scenario, if BM is town and BC is scum, they would still be 21 town votes to 9 mafia votes. Consistency is a huge boon for us, so we stay on BM, and then we can make a better assessment without BM still being a factor. A more focused discussion is a much better environment to convince others. There is no need to pour all this gravy before the second scoop of mash. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 23 2012 13:41 VisceraEyes wrote: Everyone needs to read go hiro protagonist's posts post claim and come back and say IN-THREAD that they think that those posts came from a totally inconspicuous DT prior to claim or move their votes to hiro protagonist. Please. okay could you explain me what you are trying to say because I'm not getting it. Read his posts post claim ( = posts after he claimed) and tell me he's incinspicuous prior to claim? So are you telling me "mafia would have shot that if he really would be a DT given how good they bluesniped" ? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
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Lanaia
Canada1142 Posts
I know I wanted to vote bm before but ughhhhhhhhhhh Part of me is all "omg wtf why am i doing this?" On January 23 2012 13:05 Bill Murray wrote: FW just informed me I got my bomb back from GGQ I didnt realize he died I guess I was wrong on him that is pretty much proof im town though if you think about it Not necessarily. You could be lying. gfdi. I really really want to vote you. You've made no sense in your actions this game and that actually really bothers me. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21171 Posts
On January 23 2012 14:08 Lanaia wrote: SORRY FOR BEING AWAY GUYS. I know I wanted to vote bm before but ughhhhhhhhhhh Part of me is all "omg wtf why am i doing this?" Not necessarily. You could be lying. gfdi. I really really want to vote you. You've made no sense in your actions this game and that actually really bothers me. hiro is a better lynch by far. Please vote for hiro protagonist for D4 lynch. | ||
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Nisani201
United States1400 Posts
On January 23 2012 13:05 Bill Murray wrote: FW just informed me I got my bomb back from GGQ I didnt realize he died I guess I was wrong on him that is pretty much proof im town though if you think about it Surprise, surprise, another person making a random conclusion based on bullshit. ...or maybe I'm just crazy. Enlighten me, why does this prove that you're town? | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
I've been reading through this thread, and finally see someone agreeing with me...Minus the whole BC thing...but I've done said I don't like the direction BC was going, and none of his recent posts have come across protown. Like seriously? Picking a fight with p4n is not something a protown BC would do in my eyes, and to blatantly insult someone ("if I thought you were mafia and not just dumb"), is resorting to a shitty ad hominem attack. P4N has only been wanting to hear other peoples opinions, and not only has he not gotten them, he gets verbally assaulted by BC. Next off, I'd have to go back and look at this, but when Sheth died, who was it started using that against me? Seriously guys, remember, the mafia use there night kills not only to kill townies, but to create suspicion and disrupt the town. My meat market manager just quit and I've been busy at work all week, sry guys, but I wanted the extra hours. Now, again. Anyone else around so we can bounce some shit around? | ||
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p4NDemik
United States13896 Posts
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supersoft
Germany3729 Posts
On January 23 2012 09:31 wherebugsgo wrote: basically, sandro flipped scum, right? So far all the people he has called out have actually flipped scum. The exception is GGQ, and that's pretty much because everyone was calling out GGQ (he also expressed doubt about GGQ but didn't about anyone else). Now, it makes the 3 of us look more town, but I don't think it means much more than that. I took it with a heavy grain of salt, since sandro called out GGQ and he was town, Toad could very well still be scum and he could have just been saying stuff in thread just for the hell of it. Also I read your logs with Toad and I lol'd at the part you guys talked about me LOL. Toad ist ein Pimmelzwerg! Also, what do you think of Toad at this point? What did you get from that conversation? ein pimmelzwerg ist er nicht ja ;-) well i do think that he has decent reads. he definetely puts a lot of work into that game. sometimes his reads differ from mine. overall i think he's rather town than scum. but we still need to talk about certain players. i have a rough picture of what i expect to hear from a townie there. as for todays lynch i still think glurio is a save bet. On January 21 2012 05:16 supersoft wrote: okay I have one easy case for you. I want you to think about the following scenario: You join a game as mason and you're town. You replaced someone and the shit is completely out of control because the thread has like 100 pages. You're replacement, because you actually want to play. What do you do day1: a) Hide b) Mason somebody and talk about what's going on. If you're scum, what do you do day1? a) Hide and talk to your scumbuddys what to do b) mason a townie? c) pretend having masoned a teammate and being in danger to get forced to prove that with some logs. ___________________________________ glurio looks really bad. (I'd like to paint him in like pink because I am only 70% sure that he's scum.) i want to add he joined on page 53/54. like 30 hours in the game. and he didn't mason anyone. the problem is his reasoning fot not masoning. if he's a newb, i would have understood a reason like I am afraid of masoning scum. the reason i was rereading the thread is invalid. it's an excusation. | ||
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