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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 22:55 GMT
#3661
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.

Not until Hiro's under genuine threat of a lynch, at least. Just name & alignment is fine for the moment.

Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:57 GMT
#3662
On second or third thought, let's respect his wishes, stop trying to lynch a potential DT for now, and focus on who other than BM is scummy.
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman all need further inspection imo, will get around to writing up some analysis at some point.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:58 GMT
#3663
On January 23 2012 07:55 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.

Not until Hiro's under genuine threat of a lynch, at least. Just name & alignment is fine for the moment.


What? Are you bluefishing?
The alignment is all that a townie should care about.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 23:00 GMT
#3664
jaj, what do you think of these people:
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman
Said people, what are your opinions on each other and jaj?
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 23:01 GMT
#3665
On January 23 2012 08:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
jaj, what do you think of these people:
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman
Said people, what are your opinions on each other and jaj?

add rgTheSchworz to that circle when answering plz
I want his opinion on the others too
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 22 2012 23:03 GMT
#3666
On January 23 2012 07:57 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On second or third thought, let's respect his wishes, stop trying to lynch a potential DT for now, and focus on who other than BM is scummy.
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman all need further inspection imo, will get around to writing up some analysis at some point.

Kita, toad, and VE all claimed hits which weren't CC'd. It's possible that VE or toad is a scum hiding behind a double stack but I think it's pretty likely that kita is confirmed.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 23:08 GMT
#3667
On January 23 2012 07:49 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:42 jaj22 wrote:
There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked:

1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying.
2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think.
3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie.
4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later.


1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2
2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live
3) that could be true
4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see.

No it doesn't

Mafia Roleblocker
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia.

OH, i did not know that
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 23:10 GMT
#3668
On January 23 2012 08:00 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
jaj, what do you think of these people:
Toad, VE, supersoft, risk.nuke and kitaman
Said people, what are your opinions on each other and jaj?


I'd say everyone but VE is clear townie. VE either is a clear townie or a clear mafia. What jackal said makes it look like I was wrong though on VE though. This still sounds weird but I think it's waaaay less weird now.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 23:14 GMT
#3669
Toad, VE and Kitaman get benefit of the doubt by occam's razor and some strong pressure on Sandroba, Sandroba & L respectively with no sign of a mass bus. I'm finding Toad quite town lately anyway.

supersoft and risk.nuke haven't had much thread presence by their usual standards but I haven't seen anything worth lynching them for yet.

Players who I like rather less so far: Brownbear, ~OpZ~, glurio, Munk-E. It's a bit of a lurker list but they all had no contribution apart from dubious votes on day 3.

bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:19 GMT
#3670
@pandemic

I think you need to re-think your process here. BC is not a priority because we aren't sure he is scum. BM is VERY LIKELY to be scum, across the boards. Seeing protact flip town really makes killed any skepticism I had on BM being town. The BC lynch has not arrived at the station yet, so stop running around the tracks shouting "ITS COMING COMING I CAN SEE IT" when the bill murray lynch is parked on your leg. BM now, maybe BC later.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 23:20 GMT
#3671
On January 23 2012 07:58 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:55 jaj22 wrote:
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.

Not until Hiro's under genuine threat of a lynch, at least. Just name & alignment is fine for the moment.

What? Are you bluefishing?
The alignment is all that a townie should care about.

No, they should also care about not mislynching. If Hiro is likely to get mislynched, he may be able to avoid it by revealing the role of his other check, and depending on the role, this may be worth the cost. Unless that happens, he absolutely shouldn't reveal the role.

bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:22 GMT
#3672
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.


I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:25 GMT
#3673
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy
Together but separate, like oatmeal
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 23:35 GMT
#3674
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.

Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 23:36 GMT
#3675
On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.


One less VT to shoot is one shot more likely to hit power roles.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 23:38 GMT
#3676
On January 23 2012 08:25 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh, he was roleblocked? Lol hiro, something you want to tell us buddy

he was rb'ed n3 if I understood it correct.

Found sandroba n1
Found a blue n2
roleblocked n3

Obviosuly I don't know if he checked sandroba n1 or n2 (neither do I know if he claimed which night it was by heart). If he did not check roba n1 it's vice versa. Nevertheless, don't tell the name
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
January 22 2012 23:43 GMT
#3677
On January 23 2012 08:35 jaj22 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.

Just checked, and he said Green. I can't figure out whether the pros and cons of releasing the name are worth it in that case.

Oh, well he should give the name, and that person should confirm he is just vanilla. That seems pretty obvious. If I got a check on a medic or same thing, I'd probably say the same thing as hiro.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 23:44 GMT
#3678
On January 23 2012 08:22 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:47 Cyber_Cheese wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.


I really think hiro has said that the person he checked is blue, so giving us a name now would kinda be a giveaway. Keep the name until he thinks it's relevant.



My second check came back Green, but I wont reveal whom till just before the day post. or if BC wants to mason me, I will tell him, but I think he could chose better people to mason then me so


Stop speaking about bluehunting, this man has had a green check.Don't give him reasons not to release the name, we'll have a confirmed townie the moment hiro is confirmed.
The more we get out of hiro, the sooner we'll be able to judge his alignment.
Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 22 2012 23:50 GMT
#3679
Hiro you need to tell us the name now.

Let's summarize real quick why people are suspicious. You did not have the correct format when you first made your claim, the person you claimed to have found was most likely going to die anyway, the only other person in the game who claimed a roleblock flipped scum, and now you refuse to tell us who else you've checked even though they're supposedly green not blue.

I hope you understand why people are skeptical.
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
January 22 2012 23:51 GMT
#3680
p4ndemic your reasoning for BC scum is too crazy to be mafia, but also too crazy to be true.

Murray is still obvious scum. Why isn't he dead already?

##Vote: Bill Murray
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