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jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 21:20 GMT
#3641
Do town bodyguards know that they're bodyguards?
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 21:26 GMT
#3642
What's the point of crumbing if you actually tell you're crumbing? It's like you want to tell your boss something secret but you say out loud you're using morse code.
Pointless.This is clearly meant to confuse, as a VT check isn't that valuable unless it's someone important right?
Although I want to lynch BM, and hiro voted BM earlier, this has left some room for doubt.
The fact that you weren't medic saved means scum don't want you dead. Since some ppl suggest that scum doublestacked, why the F didn't they doublestack you?

rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 21:28 GMT
#3643
My friend, better give the name of your N2 check, and fast.
If your check doesn't make any sense, you're scum.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 22 2012 21:30 GMT
#3644
Qp: Because they know he's DT and can easily RB him. Also, if he was scum he'd knew the exact role of sandro, too. So he knew either way and just choosed not to...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Jayjay54
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Germany2296 Posts
January 22 2012 21:30 GMT
#3645
...tell town...
Things are laid back in Unidenland. And may the road ahead be lid with dreams and tomorrows. Which are lid with dreams. Also.
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 21:40 GMT
#3646
jayjay read the log or still no time? Something interesting in there?
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 21:54 GMT
#3647
On January 23 2012 06:26 rgTheSchworz wrote:
The fact that you weren't medic saved means scum don't want you dead. Since some ppl suggest that scum doublestacked, why the F didn't they doublestack you?

Inconsistency alert. rgTheSchworz thought it was obvious that Hiro would get roleblocked rather than shot last night:

On January 21 2012 21:19 rgTheSchworz wrote:
No, they'll RB him continously, if they haven't got any other obvious target. Why risk protection?


I'd be surprised if scum didn't at least double-stack Protact. Triple stack is possible given that both GGQ and Scamp were reasonable vig targets. This looks bad for Bill Murray, because it'd be a hell of a risk for scum if he was town. Jailing Protactinium was the obvious choice (for a sane town player) once a DT was splitting the medics.

rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 22:00 GMT
#3648
Jaj22, I thought that he would get RB.But then scum have to use RB every night on him.
Now i'm not so sure 3-4 nights of roleblocking are worth a doublestack.
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 22:04 GMT
#3649
So either Protact was higher priority, and they'll try to get hiro tonight, or there isn't a RB and Hiro is scum.
First case dictates Lynch BM. I am waiting for Hiro's response to cast my vote
Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 22:08 GMT
#3650
On January 23 2012 07:00 rgTheSchworz wrote:
Jaj22, I thought that he would get RB.But then scum have to use RB every night on him.
Now i'm not so sure 3-4 nights of roleblocking are worth a doublestack.


they're sniping blues because they think they're blue although they don't know it. That's the difference. If they knew they were blue before the flip they could rb them as well but they don't so rb someone once is not going to be helpful because you have to do the same thing again and won't know shit.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 22:13 GMT
#3651
If Hiro is DT, they wouldn't bother killing him tonight except maybe if there are other strong claims. Plenty of blues left to hunt and only one good RB target. Also, now that there's suspicion of Hiro, there's no reason for them to do anything except RB him.

Meapak_Ziphh
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States6786 Posts
January 22 2012 22:18 GMT
#3652
If the mafia has an rber, can they rb the same person two nights in a row?
Forti et Fideli ~ TL Mafia Forum: Come play with us! ~ Go Samsung KHAN, Stork, JangBi , Shine, Grape, and TurN Fighting!~ wat
rgTheSchworz
Profile Joined November 2010
Romania425 Posts
January 22 2012 22:28 GMT
#3653
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked
.
So even if VE didn't use any actions N1 and N2 he would still be notified he was blocked.
Either VE is scum and obv wasn't blocked or there isn't a RB in the game.
No one claimed Roleblocked D2 and D1.
There was a clear target in VE to roleblock.

VE or Hiro are scum.
So, following this post ##Vote: Double Lynch

At this point where we got 1 scum outta these 2, not voting Double Lynch is and should be considered Antitown.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 22:30 GMT
#3654
On January 23 2012 07:18 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
If the mafia has an rber, can they rb the same person two nights in a row?

I see no restrictions on the role.
Mafia Roleblocker
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia.
Life can only kill you once.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 22:42 GMT
#3655
There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked:

1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying.
2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think.
3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie.
4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later.

Toadesstern
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Germany16350 Posts
January 22 2012 22:44 GMT
#3656
On January 23 2012 07:42 jaj22 wrote:
There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked:

1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying.
2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think.
3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie.
4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later.


1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2
2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live
3) that could be true
4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see.
<Elem> >toad in charge of judging lewdness <Elem> how bad can it be <Elem> also wew, that is actually p lewd.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:47 GMT
#3657
On January 23 2012 05:00 hiro protagonist wrote:
Yes, I realize my actions helped keep BM alive day3. I will not make the same mistake, Of course I will help you lynch Bill today. I thought It was obvious in my last post thats what I wanted to do. I also want to re read the thread, which is what Im doing now. better to check twice than make a rash decision at this point. also, everyone should vote for the DL today.

##Vote: Bill Murry
##Vote: Double Lynch

As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite

Give us the name and alignment, so we can work with that.
We don't actually need to know the persons role.
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
January 22 2012 22:49 GMT
#3658
On January 23 2012 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:42 jaj22 wrote:
There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked:

1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying.
2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think.
3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie.
4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later.


1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2
2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live
3) that could be true
4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see.

No it doesn't

Mafia Roleblocker
Once per night, you may send in a PM detailing a person you would like to block. That person will be notified that they were blocked, and if the person being blocked has a night action, he or she will not be able to use it. Please note that this ability only pertains to active actions. Passive abilities, such as the Veteran's extra lives, cannot be blocked by mafia.
Life can only kill you once.
Cyber_Cheese
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Australia3615 Posts
January 22 2012 22:51 GMT
#3659
On January 23 2012 05:18 risk.nuke wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 05:16 hiro protagonist wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:13 risk.nuke wrote:
On January 23 2012 05:04 hiro protagonist wrote:
Dont worry kita, I will crumb it one way or another.

What?

I will crumb the identity of my night 2 check before I die.

Okey, maybe you're new to mafia but sorry that is stupid. Crumbing works like this. When you die and we see your role we can read your filter, find your crumbs, and understand your nightactions. You can't crumb since you've already claimed.

The mafia couldn't target him and the person in the same night I suppose
The moment you lose confidence in yourself, is the moment the world loses it's confidence in you.
jaj22
Profile Joined September 2009
United Kingdom1376 Posts
January 22 2012 22:52 GMT
#3660
On January 23 2012 07:44 Toadesstern wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2012 07:42 jaj22 wrote:
There are other reasons that VE may not have been roleblocked:

1. Mafia thought VE was probably lying.
2. Mafia thought VE was probably a veteran trying to draw hits. This was dispelled by night 2, I think.
3. Mafia thought VE was likely to shoot a townie.
4. Mafia didn't want to reveal their roleblocker so that they could throw suspicion on a DT or medic later.


1) yeah if they thought so they would have thought it's #2
2) yeah if they thought THAT they would have rb-ed him while shooting because rb eliminates the 2nd live
3) that could be true
4) everyone knows mafia has 1 RB as far as I can see.

2. The OP is explicit that the veteran ability cannot be roleblocked. This may not be true for the Jack's one-shot veteran ability, so RB & shoot night 2 makes more sense. However, mafia may have thought VE was a plain mason at that point, and shot him just because he was pressing Sandroba.

4. No, the existence of a roleblocker is unproven, although personally I think it's extremely likely.
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