EPT##Vote: Double-Lynch
WBG still scum, Toad looking really bad for continuing to doubt my claim. BM still gotta die. Thank you, that is all.
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote: Double-Lynch WBG still scum, Toad looking really bad for continuing to doubt my claim. BM still gotta die. Thank you, that is all. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:08 jaj22 wrote: My scum-VE theory hinged on BM jailing a scum-GGQ on night 2 to protect him from vigs, and I don't have another theory that makes much sense. Surely mafia wouldn't deliberately blow their 4th KP just to give VE a bit of towncred? You're right that it looks weird as hell. Medics covering VE? Mason but no shots from VE? yeah. If BM is townie he could have locked up a townie. I asked him and he did not answer... I don't really know about the 4th shot. Shooting a mafia who is about to be modkilled and even if not modkilled he's about to get lynched is really only wasting a shot. Therefore they could get 1 or maybe even 2 mafias to look like confirmed townies. I think they might have done that with VE but I thought and still think Jackal is town. So for now it's only a fos on VE. Nevertheless I still want to know what's going on in VE-land. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:27 VisceraEyes wrote: ##Vote: Bill Murray ##Vote: Double-Lynch WBG still scum, Toad looking really bad for continuing to doubt my claim. BM still gotta die. Thank you, that is all. the fuck. Just explain why you did not shoot and why you never got roleblocked... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:30 Toadesstern wrote: yeah. If BM is townie he could have locked up a townie. I asked him and he did not answer... I don't really know about the 4th shot. Shooting a mafia who is about to be modkilled and even if not modkilled he's about to get lynched is really only wasting a shot. Therefore they could get 1 or maybe even 2 mafias to look like confirmed townies. I think they might have done that with VE but I thought and still think Jackal is town. So for now it's only a fos on VE. Nevertheless I still want to know what's going on in VE-land. Oh shit, am I the only one who saw this? Please tell me I'm not the only one who saw this..... | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I can explain why I never took a shot though - because I used the mason power and the vet power - and I'm only allowed to use 2. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Also I'm voting for BM, he's acted detrimental to town interest and has lied one too many times. And now that incog's dead there's no risk if somehow he flips town. | ||
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
I masoned BC for the reason that I've been giving all game which is: I hate the fact that we can't DT check BC and I wanted to get a read on him. To me, that's important. Now, clearly you believe my claim - you really wanna go down the road of berating me for my action choices? You'd be calling me scum right now if I'd hit a townie with a vig-shot, now you wanna call me scum for not shooting? | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
On January 22 2012 08:40 Cwave wrote: If a bodyguard is killed, will it show that he was a bodyguard? If this is the case, BM lied to me in the pm's. Ok, I confused two posts earlier. Is it correct that one of the "bodyguards" Bill listed is dead, and therefore not a bodyguard? If so, can you provide the name? Just the dead one, not the other. I don't think there's any harm in giving the name of a dead fake bodyguard. | ||
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jaj22
United Kingdom1376 Posts
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Toadesstern
Germany16350 Posts
On January 23 2012 03:44 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm not in the business of killing townies. I prefer to kill scum. My votes reflect that. I'm not sure enough in my reads this game to use the vig power. I masoned BC for the reason that I've been giving all game which is: I hate the fact that we can't DT check BC and I wanted to get a read on him. To me, that's important. Now, clearly you believe my claim - you really wanna go down the road of berating me for my action choices? You'd be calling me scum right now if I'd hit a townie with a vig-shot, now you wanna call me scum for not shooting? I'm calling you a mafia that's afraid to shoot into someone because he has to explain why he shot the guy in the first place. No I would not call you scum if you shot people like Munk-E, Slardar, opz or glurio if one of them flipped green. Yeah shooting into a vet that flipped green would be suspicious but not trying to reduce mafia KP at all really looks weird to me. So no, not shooting at all is way more weird to me than someone who shoots into a lurker that turns out to be a green. | ||
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
This situation is what compelled me to claim. I now feel it was the wrong move, even if sandroba was saved. My town read on BM appears to have been wrong. My assumptions on why BM was being pushed may also be wrong, so I need to reavaluate my reads, which will take some time. But I can tell you I wont be voting for BC today. Most people claiming for his death are arguing because he help lynch a townie, he is scum. This is bad logic, which does not take into account his actions: Being wrong does not make you scum. Lieing, self-preservation, avoiding taking stances, and lurking makes you scum. The people BC has been pushing are the second group of people. Now I am not sure an BC alignment yet. I find him incredibly hard to read as town or scum. The fact that he once completely crushed me in a previous game when He was the godfather and I was wrapped around his finger makes me VERY WARY in regards to him  but we should not lynch him today.I am gonna spend the rest of the day re-reading the thread and see what comes up. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
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rgTheSchworz
Romania425 Posts
I wonder if you're not red and tried(succesfully) to get votes off BM. I wouldn't have bothered lynching BM and Sandro back then, but then you come, claim DT, and surprise surprise, you claim roleblocked last night! I don't paint you red from the get-go, but lynching BM was and is important, and you come and stop that. Your information could isn't something that scum couldn't have, and well, sandro was dying ANYWAY. So fakeclaiming would not have been risky at all. In fewer words: I want your say on BM, and why wouldn't you release the name you checked N2, conveniently stating that most of us consider him town anyway. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
BM has been given the sheriff role, the strongest town role and has used it as following: Night one: Jailing Lanaia. He has a red read on Lanaia and explained that he was trying to reduce mafia kp. The problem? It was impossible to reduce mafia kp on day one by jailing a red. Night two: No jail. On this night, he was a detective + medic, due to the way the kp formula worked. He was instructed to jail L, the mafia godfather, which would have reduced the mafia kp and outed their godfather as scum. Targeting any of the eight remaining mafia would have reduced the kp and outed the target as scum. Targeting a town would have protected them from any potential hits and strongly point towards their innocence if the mafia kp was not affected. Night three: No jail. BM is on the chopping block and essentially the one thing he can do to redeem himself is to block a mafia kp. Why isn't he jailing a strong town read? For all we know, he could be the one responsible for the hiro roleblock. He calls prot scum, yet apparently is removing the bomb from him? If BM is the lynch target and mafia has no reason to believe that prot no longer has a bomb on him, why are they shooting prot last night? As for the ggq shot, I think it was pretty clear prot got a green check on him. hiro, I really don't understand why you would withhold a check if you're an outed dt. They may be clean in your eyes, but you have no idea how things will turn out days from now. You really should be crumbing your clean check before the next day post. | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
##Vote: Bill Murry ##Vote: Double Lynch As for the results of my day 2 check, I will release that if it becomes relivent. As for now, I Have a good reason for keeping that info quite  | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
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risk.nuke
Sweden2825 Posts
On January 23 2012 05:04 hiro protagonist wrote: Dont worry kita, I will crumb it one way or another. What? | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
I will crumb the identity of my night 2 check before I die. | ||
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