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On August 22 2011 16:52 Kurumi wrote: Why we went dead silent today? The game isn't over, we have at least two scum left. I am voting slam500, so we get a lurker lynch, he looks like he forgot about the thread since he was a lynch candidate. I´m not sure about this strategy, it´s basically giving up our vote doing what the rules are meant to do for us. I´d rather see modkills actually happen. As they don´t, killing off Slam500 could work if we can´t think of a better target. Might shake the other lurkers out of inactivity.
On that note, still waiting for Curu to explain why I´m scum.
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Alright boys and girls, Forumite:
On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. As for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush.
First off, already saying he won't even think about being in IRC, setting up a thing he can point at later if people accuse him for being scummy for it. As he says in his own post, he has done nothing but discuss mechanics and tactics, he's afraid to lay down a vote of his own so he won't be suspicious if he leads a mislynch.
His style is not FoS:
On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum.
But here's a FoS
On August 17 2011 07:57 Forumite wrote: I´m putting out a FoS on JeeJee. No posts N0, nothing concrete since then. Spamming Irc under another name and being a general troll. While the sum of his irc-posts are very large, most posts are less than 5 words, they are comments, not analysis, which is what we need in this game. FoS JeeJee
As there is no chance of THAT lynch going through, I´m voting for Nisani. He did a scumslip, which might not be that damning, but his defence doesn´t quite add up. It´s partly because of that, and because of basic survival instinct. ##Vote: Nisani201
This post came right when the GreyMisT wagon was picking up heat:
On August 17 2011 18:22 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 10:41 Navillus wrote: I'm voting forumite until he comes out and gives us a more recent opinion than that jump on the nisani wagon and FoS of jeejee.
##Vote: Forumite I did a FoS because it had to be done, but I´m not wasting my vote if I don´t think JeeJee is going to get lynched. ---- About Nisanis201's rolecheck, I can confirm it, his check result is correct. It doesn´t make him a confirmed Blue, but it gives us enough reason to not lynch him right now. We don´t want to lynch a possible Nisani201, the next candidates are Slam500 and Greymist. Between those, Greymist at least posts in the thread, from looking at the thread and cursory glance at the Irc-chat, Slam500 dropped out of the game a day ago. I´m not sure if I´m here for the deadline, so my vote goes out now. ##Unvote Nisani201##Vote: Slam500
He went from Nisani to Slam because Slam was the only one with a chance of getting lynched that wasn't GreyMisT.
On August 18 2011 07:49 Forumite wrote: I´ll think I´ll try a general postcount before we get to p51, there are several lurkers in the game, and I trust my numbers and analysis more than my scumsense.
Scum excuse for not giving an opinion and scum excuse for posting useless stuff while appearing to be contributing.
I didn't think he was scum because I was sure Jackal was and Forumite voted for Jackal very easily, but he's scum.
##Vote Forumite
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How bought this, lets tie the vote with slam and Forumite?
I'll vote Forumite, to make it more even.
##Vote Forumite
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On August 23 2011 00:31 Curu wrote:Alright boys and girls, Forumite: Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. As for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. First off, already saying he won't even think about being in IRC, setting up a thing he can point at later if people accuse him for being scummy for it. As he says in his own post, he has done nothing but discuss mechanics and tactics, he's afraid to lay down a vote of his own so he won't be suspicious if he leads a mislynch. His style is not FoS: Show nested quote +On August 16 2011 10:17 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 10:03 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 09:23 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 09:04 JeeJee wrote:On August 16 2011 08:27 Forumite wrote:On August 16 2011 08:19 Jackal58 wrote:On August 16 2011 08:13 Forumite wrote: Multilynching, it might look like a chance to make us kill more scum, effectively increase Town killpower, but I don´t think it will work. Disregarding that we can´t get a reading between the kills and might hit a bunch of Town, it´s hard enough to succeed on a lynch as it is, hitting the exact number of votes for several targets is very hard. In my last game, lynches changed during the last 20 minutes, sometimes changing in the last minute. Unless you get a big alliance together to facilitate the multilynches, there´s no way that it will work except by coincidence and luck, even if you try, it just takes one player disagreeing to ruin it all, and with the lynch aiming at 2+ players, anyone of them can ruin the attempt. If some of you want to try this the first day, go ahead, and good luck, you´ll need it. See that's part of the beauty of it. If there is a tie and somebody votes to change it we have a scumbunny on our hands. If the consensus of town is Player X and Player Y should be lynched and then Player Z changes it up in the last minute we have a definitive lynch or vig shot. Player X= Nisani Player Y = GreYMisT Player Z = JeeJee (I can hear fine sir) We used that logic in the game I mention above, we ended up lynching both the first target, the second target and the one who changed the vote that first night. 3 days, 3 lynches, 3 Towns dead... So, you're certainly here often enough to write many posts. Trouble is, none of them say a damn thing. Not a one. You started off talking about roles, and taking a stance against mass claiming, then spam/joke some more in the thread. Finally, you finish off the day with another pointless post about roles before going to sleep! If I may use foolishness' patented quote: NOBODY CARESDiscussing obscure role mechanics that don't affect anything even IF the roles were in the game (which they may very well not be) is a total waste of space. Discuss people not roles. Ah but then you wake up and ... talk about other irrelevant mechanics such as telling us all that multilynching is going to be difficult! In other news, water is wet. For being here quite a lot, and making quite a lot of posts, you sure said fuck-all in the thread, and certainly nothing at all in irc. Can we vote yet? ##vote:forumite I don´t use the irc, I don´t post there, I don´t read it. yeah, i'm quite awareAs for the rest, I´m giving my opinion when I feel like it, which has been about mechanics and tactics so far. True, I haven´t found anyone I feel is a good candidate for a lynch yet, but there´s still 39 (?) hours left to vote. I´m not in a rush. you should be. sitting around waiting for something to happen is a surefire way to ensure nothing will happen. hell, you yourself complained about the slowness of the thread. would you lynch you if you were in my position? see red. What´s wrong with not using Irc? IMO, it´s better to use this thread, in here every post is saved, you can read everything I post, while most of your posting in Irc is gone, preventing anyone from calling you out on your posting. My style isn´t to do random FoS like you seem to prefer. Just because I´m posting about multilynching instead of if A or B is slightly more scummy doesn´t mean I´m not contributing. If there´s not that much to go on this early in the game, then I wait until there is more to go on. Mafia isn´t won during the first day, it takes time to analyse posts and patterns to find scum. But here's a FoS Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 07:57 Forumite wrote: I´m putting out a FoS on JeeJee. No posts N0, nothing concrete since then. Spamming Irc under another name and being a general troll. While the sum of his irc-posts are very large, most posts are less than 5 words, they are comments, not analysis, which is what we need in this game. FoS JeeJee
As there is no chance of THAT lynch going through, I´m voting for Nisani. He did a scumslip, which might not be that damning, but his defence doesn´t quite add up. It´s partly because of that, and because of basic survival instinct. ##Vote: Nisani201 This post came right when the GreyMisT wagon was picking up heat: Show nested quote +On August 17 2011 18:22 Forumite wrote:On August 17 2011 10:41 Navillus wrote: I'm voting forumite until he comes out and gives us a more recent opinion than that jump on the nisani wagon and FoS of jeejee.
##Vote: Forumite I did a FoS because it had to be done, but I´m not wasting my vote if I don´t think JeeJee is going to get lynched. ---- About Nisanis201's rolecheck, I can confirm it, his check result is correct. It doesn´t make him a confirmed Blue, but it gives us enough reason to not lynch him right now. We don´t want to lynch a possible Nisani201, the next candidates are Slam500 and Greymist. Between those, Greymist at least posts in the thread, from looking at the thread and cursory glance at the Irc-chat, Slam500 dropped out of the game a day ago. I´m not sure if I´m here for the deadline, so my vote goes out now. ##Unvote Nisani201##Vote: Slam500 He went from Nisani to Slam because Slam was the only one with a chance of getting lynched that wasn't GreyMisT. Show nested quote +On August 18 2011 07:49 Forumite wrote: I´ll think I´ll try a general postcount before we get to p51, there are several lurkers in the game, and I trust my numbers and analysis more than my scumsense. Scum excuse for not giving an opinion and scum excuse for posting useless stuff while appearing to be contributing. I didn't think he was scum because I was sure Jackal was and Forumite voted for Jackal very easily, but he's scum. ##Vote Forumite The vote for slam over greymist is pretty scummy
Also i asked the host if people were going to get mod killed today he said he would look over the thread and people will die so I am against voting for inactives untill we see which of them die and can then lynch them accordingly unless there is a scum slip so we dont end up with someone who doesnt post at a lylo. ##vote Forumite
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, I find forumite to be scummy and I'm voting for him, especially now that we have a chance to lynch him. (and this time I'm gonna remember to post in the voting thread lol.
##Vote: Forumite
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Really Curu? Tell us to expect something good, then wait 23 hours during which we are waiting for the bomb and don´t discuss anyone else? At least it´s an effective technique to get someone lynched, and enough are buying it.
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On August 23 2011 03:21 Forumite wrote: Really Curu? Tell us to expect something good, then wait 23 hours during which we are waiting for the bomb and don´t discuss anyone else? At least it´s an effective technique to get someone lynched, and enough are buying it. Your not afk lets see a defence
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##vote Forumite
Can you tell us who we should vote for instead of you?
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Okay, first, I disagree that not using IRC is scummy. In my opinion, using IRC kills this game, the posts are short and without depth, there is no real analysis. Ironically, the post Curu did on me is one of the few serious analysis posts so far, and it took until Day 3 to see it. You all go to Irc, post 80% irrelevant information, sometimes under false names (I think JeeJee did this), and feel like you are contributing, while the place where discussion and analysis can take place with everyone, this thread, is left empty.
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Not using IRC is not scummy, declaring early that you are not going to be on there at all with no valid reasons given is.
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I just gonna put this out there. this game is a mess. To many lurkers. and no good leads. I think there are 5 mafia left not 3. the only saving grace is that one scum team has to kill the other. and I think that's whats happening with our main lynch right now. one scum accusing another.
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I said I was not going to use Irc because I knew people would use it as a reason to lynch me. When I said it, it had allready come up.
As for making a Fos on JeeJee after saying I dislike accusing players, I don´t consider it to have any significance, I don´t know why Curu brought it up.
As for not voting Greymist, if I was scum like Curu thinks, wouldn´t I have jumped on that bandwagon eventually, for the towncred? Of course, I could have been in the other team, except TAA did a quick FoS on me, which started the early suspicion. Either way, it doesn´t add up.
---- There are two scumteams, and scum need to take an active part in scumhunting, or risk getting killed off, because the scumteam that control the lynches, get more killpower. Scum must be active and try to lead Town, not blend in. Who do scum kill? Anyone of their own team, it doesn´t matter, they just need to get someone killed, Town or enemy Scum. At least two players look like they are good at pushing for and securing a lynch, from the first two days, and the bandwagon on me.
GreYMisT - Jackal58, Nisani201, hiro protagonist, OriginalName, DroneAllDay, Varpulis, Sevryn, Curu Jackal58 - nisani201, snotboogie, Forumite, TheAwesomeAll, Curu, Da-Muffinman, Sevryn, hiro protagonist Forumite - Curu, hiro protagonist, Sevryn, DroneAllDay, Varpulis
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hiro protagonist is scum, you're right. So you're on the black scum team and hiro is one the red one, right?
Hey do us a favour and use your night kill on hiro for me. I'm betting hiro was the one who killed DropBear.
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ahahahaha... this game...
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Missed it earlier, Sevryn has been very successfull with bandwagoning winning lynches too.
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On August 23 2011 06:28 Curu wrote: hiro protagonist is scum, you're right. So you're on the black scum team and hiro is one the red one, right?
Hey do us a favour and use your night kill on hiro for me. I'm betting hiro was the one who killed DropBear. On August 23 2011 06:37 hiro protagonist wrote: ahahahaha... this game... The silent treatment? Not even calling it out as an OMGUS? There is such a thing as taking an accusation too cool.
##Vote: Curu
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On August 23 2011 06:37 hiro protagonist wrote: ahahahaha... this game... +1
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On August 23 2011 07:24 Forumite wrote: Missed it earlier, Sevryn has been very successfull with bandwagoning winning lynches too. what is the difference between bandwagoning and presenting a good argument that people can agree with? Also you will notice that alot of the people that voted are some of the only active/semi active people in this thread as soon as we find out who is getting modkilled today I am all for lynching lurkers so we dont get into a bad lylo.
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On August 23 2011 08:07 Forumite wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2011 06:28 Curu wrote: hiro protagonist is scum, you're right. So you're on the black scum team and hiro is one the red one, right?
Hey do us a favour and use your night kill on hiro for me. I'm betting hiro was the one who killed DropBear. The silent treatment? Not even calling it out as an OMGUS? There is such a thing as taking an accusation too cool. ##Vote: Curu
Scum votes don't phase me.
I don't credit scum with my time. Die quietly.
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