EPTTL Mafia XLIII - Page 32
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Mig
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
I would also really like to hear who chaos intends on voting for today. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
so slowly | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On August 03 2011 09:12 redFF wrote: ![[image loading]](http://i418.photobucket.com/albums/pp268/Silver_Cloud/mccoyDeadThread.jpg) | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
Amazing . Just like the warning You got . | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 05 2011 21:37 Lucidity wrote: This is quite obviously wrong. It doesn't prove that he's a Vig at all. It proves that there is A Vig out there. Does it have to be TAA because he claimed? No. I don't understand why you'd make that post though. Are you trying to push the case that it's a terrible move as scum? So that it looks unlikely that TAA is scum? The logic is too obviously wrong to be a mistake o_o Do Vets and targets who were med protected get notified when they are hit? Do players get notified if they are Role Blocked? Even if they are scouts? LOL are you serious? If he claims a shot that he didn't fire, either the real Vig behind the shot shoots him next or he gets counterclaimed. Vig is one of the easiest roles to confirm. He breadcrumbs who he's going to kill, that person dies. If there's more than 2 kills the night, the person he breadcrumbed dies, and no one counterclaims him, then he's a real Vig. Yes my point is TAA fakeclaiming Vig as scum is too stupid to be believed. I love how your post coming back doesn't even mention JeeJee at all, just tries to cast doubt on Mig, BC, and me. Yet you aren't actually pushing anything either. | ||
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 05 2011 19:56 TheAwesomeAll wrote: if jeejee returned red i would be even more interested tbh If JeeJee returned Godfather or Townie then I would consider youngminii the best lynch for the next cycle. If he was just simple red, it looks a little less bad on YM. | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
On August 06 2011 01:31 Lucidity wrote: That's simply not true. He "breadcrumbs" that he's going to kill X. X dies. Mafia killed X -.- Then there's only 2 KP in the night and he's not confirmed Vig. Herp. | ||
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Curu
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Ace
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o.0 | ||
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Curu
Canada2817 Posts
I don't see why TAA would freely claim Vig if he was scum when no one pressured or asked him to. | ||
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Kurumi
Poland6130 Posts
On August 06 2011 01:51 Ace wrote: but they can shoot the player the Vigi "breadcrumbed" leaving only 2 KP and no way of verifying the claim o.0 Hey Joe the Helpful Uncle , I dont want to disturb but the game is still going  | ||
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Curu
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Lucidity
South Africa603 Posts
On August 06 2011 01:32 Curu wrote: Then there's only 2 KP in the night and he's not confirmed Vig. Herp. Not true. Another Vig could have killed a 3rd player. Scum/Vigs could hit a Vet/Med protected player etc. The fact is there are too many variables to confirm the player at night. | ||
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Mig
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
On August 06 2011 02:37 Lucidity wrote: Not true. Another Vig could have killed a 3rd player. Scum/Vigs could hit a Vet/Med protected player etc. The fact is there are too many variables to confirm the player at night. But MAFIA can't rely on that. Have you forgotten the beginning of Curu's argument? Mafia wouldn't fake-claim Vig without being pressured because they cannot RELY on creating a third KP. It would be too dangerous. Oh, and if they hit a vet/med prot, then the hit person claims and the KPs add up. You're also forgetting the fact that if Mig is red, then he'd die the next day and force the mafia down to 1 KP. So they'll have 1 KP to kill, idk, maybe 2 blues? It's horrible for mafia whatever alignment Mig is. | ||
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Mig
United States4714 Posts
One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum. DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic. Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid | ||
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Mig
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OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
YM has been getting scummier and scummier as the game goes on. just a few examples from D1 On August 03 2011 06:28 youngminii wrote: nah i was just kidding Anyway, I'd rather Mig die than Lucidity/Varpulis. I dunno, the latter two just seem so.. Normal? While Mig is screaming "I'M SCUM". Maybe it's just me. On August 03 2011 08:03 youngminii wrote: i'm down for a varp lynch too that post that lucidity just pointed out is pretty damn incriminating by itself Oh wow, look at this. Id rather lynch kill mig than varpu/lucid because they are normal. next post is OH OK I ACTUALLY DONT GIVE A FUCK JUST LYNCH ONE LOLOLOL. ._. On August 03 2011 04:15 youngminii wrote: Mig is scum. Stop it with that overly aggressive 'pressure' you are putting on people. You're asking everyone everything just for the sake of it. You've asked so many people about their opinions or tried to aggressively 'pressure' someone, but it's not pressure because you just back off straight away. You are not an asshole, yet you are being an asshole (both in thread and in IRC). The only reason I can think of why you are doing this is because you want to appear to be doing something fruitful and active. Happy? So what your saying is, your not allowed at all to gather information or opinions at all because your being aggresive an backing off immeadiatly. Hes gathering information hes perfectly allowed to do so when hes sharing it with town. Just because you disagree with his methods doesnt make him scum. On August 03 2011 21:25 youngminii wrote: Bad reasoning. I basically tunnel people in every game I play, scum or not. Besides, one of my reasons for Mig being scum is along the lines of "he's a great player but he's playing shitty this game". Someone pointed out that it's too early to tell and if Mig is town then he'll catch a lot of scum, which I immediately agreed to and unvoted. I feel bad for Mig, what a shitty meta. The guy who always kills scum, and is scum if he doesn't. So now you tunnel Mig D1 and tunnel BC the entire game. Ok I will take that as a completely null tell from your meta. Day 1: Wishy washy tunneler who really doesnt contribute to analysis at all other than calling out BC for lurking, and trying to push Mig with flimsy evidence. DAY 2: On August 05 2011 10:21 youngminii wrote: To clarify: TAA and BC spent Day 1 trying to focus fire on JeeJee. TAA either lied or something went horribly wrong in the night actions. BC is now trying to focus fire on JeeJee as he was one of the people being looked at yesterday. Here is what's likely: If TAA flips red, JeeJee should be green. BC is more likely red than green. If JeeJee flips green, BC and TAA are both motherfucking red. If BC flips red, JeeJee should be green. TAA is more likely red than green. In other words, kill TAA/BC. If you are the DT and you checked JeeJee who turned out green, claim to Mig right away who should then post this in the thread, whereupon we lynch TAA/BC. I think BC put this pretty well. He only put in certain scenarios that turn out in his favor. but the worst part is the bolded section. Its like you know that JeeJee is green and clear, its as if your sure he got DT checked. Your also pushing TAA and BC hard and you basically go OMGUS on BC later on after he posts analysis on him. You then proceed to redicule RedFF making you seem more antagonistic. YM is pretty scum in my eyes. HOWEVER: JeeJee has not been playing much better at all. And YM has been trying to get heat off him the entire day while pushing TAA/BC when both are rather meh lynch targets at this point. JeeJee as mig has mentioned has also claimed Medic. Therefore I find it highly likely that between YM seemingly knowing hes green JeeJees uselessness in thread and fakeclaim that both of these men are indeed scum. I personally would think that of the two, JeeJee is godfather and as such is better to be lynched today than tommorrow. YM is sadly while very scummy better lynched tommorrow. ##Vote: JeeJee Oh and if YM calls me scummy for voting for JeeJee over him put it this way. Hes evil as fuck but hes the lesser of two. | ||
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