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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 05 2011 19:21 GMT
#641
I completely agree with the votes on JeeJee. Like I said in IRC, he's done absolutely nothing but defend, gives out no information, does no scum hunting, and his only vote on Drazerk has basically been a generic policy lynch of lynch all lurkers. Seems like a good person to lynch today.

Oh, and JeeJee, it's about 21 hours past the current day. Is it time to weigh in yet?
darkness overpowering
TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
August 05 2011 19:21 GMT
#642
jeejee and bc are furiously accusing each other, YM made it really obvious jeejee was scum, hes been scummy from day one:
##Vote: JeeJee
dr Helvetica <3
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 05 2011 19:23 GMT
#643
JeeJee with his veteran status has yet to contribute anything worthwhile, this is the most daming thing. Although BC had a pretty scummy first day imo (he was hiding because he was lynched in the last game for talking which I suppose is understandable) this pushes JeeJee over the edge. It was really lucky for us that we ended up with an obviously fake claim from him. If I was GF I'd pick the medic role or simply a vanilla role. The Godfather would probably feel pressured to claim to mig_ so I'm going to venture a guess that's what JeeJee is.
RIP Aaliyah
redFF
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States3910 Posts
August 05 2011 19:32 GMT
#644
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

Ok yeah then i'm fine with a JeeJee lynch. Was their any reason to out all the medics tho?

Also JeeJee who did you protect?
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#645
On August 06 2011 02:37 Lucidity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 01:32 Curu wrote:
On August 06 2011 01:31 Lucidity wrote:
That's simply not true. He "breadcrumbs" that he's going to kill X. X dies. Mafia killed X -.-


Then there's only 2 KP in the night and he's not confirmed Vig.

Herp.

Not true. Another Vig could have killed a 3rd player. Scum/Vigs could hit a Vet/Med protected player etc. The fact is there are too many variables to confirm the player at night.

your hypotheticals are a joke. sure a freak occurrence can happen where the vig doesn't become confirmed. the vast majority of the time, it will never happen. attempting to cast doubt on mig using that is silly, at least come up with something more reasonable.

to everyone else using meta arguments: meta's a joke. you keep calling me a veteran and saying i don't scumhunt, therefore i must be scum... you don't see a glaring flaw with that? lol


On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid


sigh, some people say i ignore accusations against myself, others say i defend myself too much. make up your mind. anyway i trust you'll adjust your judgment post-flip. just remember what we talked about and avoid tunnel vision.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 05 2011 19:33 GMT
#646
@redff mig knows that. you have no reason to.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
August 05 2011 19:39 GMT
#647
Is that all? Don't wanna talk about it with us over IRC? Don't wanna bring up any other possible accusations? Nice, really nice.
darkness overpowering
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 05 2011 19:50 GMT
#648
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 05 2011 19:51 GMT
#649
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

I'm sorry I'm catching up on the thread how am I connected to these people?
Curu
Profile Joined March 2010
Canada2817 Posts
August 05 2011 19:55 GMT
#650
By all being Mafia.
wat
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 19:57 GMT
#651
Realistically one of jeejee/bc has to die. The claims right now just do not make sense. It isn't possible for us to have this combination of blue roles.

I don't have a problem with you defending yourself jeejee but it becomes a problem when you are willing to put a lot of effort into your defense but no effort into finding the scum. BC made a strong case against you today. You haven't made a strong case against anyone the entire game.

But if JeeJee does flip medic we will know that BC should die next.

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OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 19:59 GMT
#652
On August 06 2011 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.


So what, your still not attempting to give us scum. You can give us all the town-leans you want but it just shows your trying to buddy up to people.

Not helping your case yet.
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 05 2011 19:59 GMT
#653
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

What makes you trust DrH over BC and JeeJee I think they are all very suspect
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 20:00 GMT
#654
On August 06 2011 04:59 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

What makes you trust DrH over BC and JeeJee I think they are all very suspect


What makes us trust you, youve lurked for 30 hours and when your name pops up you resurface.
JeeJee
Profile Blog Joined July 2003
Canada5652 Posts
August 05 2011 20:02 GMT
#655
On August 06 2011 04:59 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.


So what, your still not attempting to give us scum. You can give us all the town-leans you want but it just shows your trying to buddy up to people.

Not helping your case yet.


where did you get it into your head that i'm trying to help my case.. was it before or after i self-voted?
anyway, i obviously also gave him my scum suspicions, thanks for reading too much into nothing. either way my focus is on town leans because if someone's heavily leaning town, scum want to kill them, hence i prot them. herp.
(\o/)  If you want it, you find a way. Otherwise you find excuses. No exceptions.
 /_\   aka Shinbi (requesting a name change since 27/05/09 ☺)
Sevryn
Profile Joined September 2010
698 Posts
August 05 2011 20:06 GMT
#656
On August 06 2011 05:00 OriginalName wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 04:59 Sevryn wrote:
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

What makes you trust DrH over BC and JeeJee I think they are all very suspect


What makes us trust you, youve lurked for 30 hours and when your name pops up you resurface.

Your avoiding my question and If you must know I just woke up after missing my alarm clock and missing work and decided to read the thread.
I don't have a read on DrH either way but with three medic claims its suspicious. and there is still a chance a real medic has not claimed because they were suspect of Migs townieness. I agree we should lynch JeeJee because he is the scummiest and most likely of those who claimed to be medic to be scum. But lets say he flips red does that confirm both of them? one of them?

##vote JeeJee
OriginalName
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Canada1140 Posts
August 05 2011 20:12 GMT
#657
On August 06 2011 04:50 JeeJee wrote:
i spoke with mig and gave him my town-leans. maybe when you're leading the town you'll hear them as well. he made his decision and i know better than attempt to argue with a confirmed townie, since all of my posts will be read with bias and i'd be wasting my time. ccm comes to mind here. i'll let my flip talk for itself.


Except the situation in CCM is nothing like this situation?
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
August 05 2011 20:30 GMT
#658
Your reaction to this doesn't really make sense to me as a townie JeeJee. You haven't even addressed the fact that we have 3 medic claims. You have told me you think drh and BC are town aren't you confused about which one of them could be lying? You don't seem to even care lol. It looks a lot more like you are basically just laying down to die right now.
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DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 05 2011 20:32 GMT
#659
On August 06 2011 04:59 Sevryn wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 06 2011 03:44 Mig wrote:
I was going to wait for chaos and sevryn to show up before I posted this but half way through and they are still awol so gonna post it so everyone can discuss.

One of JeeJee/Bc is pretty much guaranteed scum.

DrH, BC, JeeJee have all claimed medic to me. I talked with BC, ON and DrH who have experience hosting and the odds that there are 3 medics 1 vet in a 20 man game, even with 2 rbers, is virtually none. I trust DrH so I am fairly confident he is telling me the truth. So we can almost guarantee that one of BC/JeeJee is lying. The case against JeeJee is much stronger I believe. He A) defended Varp right after I made the first case against him B) he put virtually 0 effort into contributing analysis and scum hunting, yet when people call him out he comes in and defends himself strongly. So the current plan should be to lynch JeeJee and if he flips red we can try to work out the best plan for the medics, probably something like one defends me one defends the other medic.

Assuming JeeJee flips red then the other 2 scum are very likely between YM/Chaos/Sevryn/Lucid

What makes you trust DrH over BC and JeeJee I think they are all very suspect

errrrr i was one of the sstrongest proponents of the Varpulis lynch, the most vocal opponent of the sandroba plan (which vaprulis the mafia rb supported) and look at my vote record. i switched from lucidity back to varpulis when there was a strong opportunity to switch the town from one bandwagon to the next. you really think i'm a top suspect? based on what?
RIP Aaliyah
DoctorHelvetica
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States15034 Posts
August 05 2011 20:35 GMT
#660
if jeejee was the medic he wouldn't just give up like this. mafia is desperate, he's trying to make sure no one else gets implicated. a veteran mafia player knows the more he argues/fights the more information and ammo he hands the town.

<mig__> you see jeejee voted for himself lol
<DoctorHelvetica> trying not to give anything away
<DoctorHelvetica> the more he argues
<DoctorHelvetica> he might just implicate someone else
<mig__> yea I agree lol
<mig__> if I were medic and someone pulled this on me
<mig__> I would be like wtf which one of those fuckers is lying
<mig__> he is just like oh well kill me
<mig__> it makes no sense for a townie lol
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