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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:09 GMT
#341
Oh okay, are you going to answer the other question too? I'd also like to see the full description of the item and full role claim. Don't take too long, should be easy to copy/paste
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 14 2011 17:09 GMT
#342
is that burning pants I smell?
Computer says mafia
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:20 GMT
#343
By the way, this is the chain of conversation, obviously I didn't sound interested and didn't want to know the details

Original Message From chaos13:
Based on money only. If you give me 355,000 to cover the contract fee you'll have a deal.

Show nested quote +
Original Message From syllogism:
Is it one per day or based purely on how much money you have?

Original Message From chaos13:
I can make them for 350,000 each.

Original Message From syllogism:
And how many of these defensive weapons do you have

Original Message From chaos13:
They don't differentiate between benign or malicious visits. If someone visits you, it kills them.

Original Message From syllogism:
Do they activate when someone offensively targets you (for instance, via a night kill)? I might be interested depending on the exact properties.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:27 GMT
#344
On July 15 2011 00:22 syllogism wrote:
But hey Chaos13, to give you the benefit of the doubt, feel free to list people who you have

"have been recommending that one of the two targets be a strong suspect."

Oh, and have you sold any yet and if so, to whom


Radfield. In conversation with GM in PM land (or perhaps someone else, or both, I can't quite recall), we came to the conclusion that because there was such an obvious split lynch on Nisani/Radfield, that one of them had to be mafia. Since Nisani flipped mafia, that almost entirely clears Radfield of being mafia, but it doesn't eliminate the possibility of him being SK. Apparently in this game we have to kill both SK and mafia to win, meaning lynching SK is just as good or better than lynching mafia. I've since changed my opinion on Rad somewhat. Keep an eye on him. Don't take him out tomorrow without really good reason. However, if he goes into lurker mode over the next few days he is scum.

Palmar, syllogism, and sandroba. These guys are the three main ones attacking me right now, and it is all based on discussion in PM's. I think one out of the three of them is scum, but I really can't say for sure which one it is.

Jackal58 and GMarshal. These two are both really good players, and they're both giving me a really bad feeling that I can't quite place the origin of. I almost always have a scum read on Jackal early on, so there may not be too much into this, but I almost always find GM to be the towniest guy in the game when he plays as town. If Jackal doesn't start contributing more and improving his scumhunting, I would consider him a viable lynch target. GM, you just need to keep a close eye on.

OriginalName and heist. Flying way under the radar. At the moment I really can't think of anything that stands out about either of them. Watch their vote patterns, watch how they interact with other players. Since their posting doesn't give much away, you need to connect them to other people who have confirmed alignments.

Chezinu. He's basically unreadable. However, with what went on with Nisani earlier, I think it is quite likely that he is town.

Remember, we only have a 12 player game. This means that vote patterns are going to be one of your strongest tool for connecting players. I encourage each and every one of you to keep a file on your computer with the final vote tallies for each day, and highlight players with their alignment color when they flip. For example, in a brief glance at this

On July 14 2011 10:34 LSB wrote:
Radfield
Kurumi
chaos13
Jackal58
Nisani201

OriginalName
Palmar

Nisani201
heist
syllogism
Sandroba
Radfield
OriginalName

Heist
GMarshal

Jackal58
Chezinu


we can see that Palmar, GM, and Chezinu all voted for someone who was not one of the two main candidates. This means that they do not have to be held accountable for being on a wrong lynch, while also not throwing votes onto Nisani. On Radfield we have four players. I am certain that Kurumi is town, and I know that I am, so that leaves Jackal as the only one whose alignment is in question. Shortly after this he switched his vote to Nisani, but it wasn't the deciding vote. Jackal's likelihood of being mafia just went up.


You guys want a roleclaim, so here it is.

Alignment: Town (Demolitions Expert)
Ability: You can make landmines at the cost of 350,000 kronos each
Inventory: 1 Land mine- You can set this up at night between two people. If either of the people try to target the other, instead they will be blown up.



I have created a testament as well. Everything in my possession will be going to a player I have a strong town read on. I was hoping this game would turn out better, but hopefully this post will be of some use when I flip Town.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:30 GMT
#345
You forgot to answer the actual question

If it was anyone who visited, that would be more of a problem. However, you place it between two specific players and it is only if one of those two visits each other that it is activated. As such, I have been recommending that one of the two targets be a strong suspect.

To whom have you been making these recommendations
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:32 GMT
#346
That's something I won't share publicly. I'll PM it to a certain someone, or perhaps two people.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:32 GMT
#347
lol
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:33 GMT
#348
So have you sold any
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:35 GMT
#349
On July 15 2011 02:33 syllogism wrote:
So have you sold any


On July 15 2011 02:32 chaos13 wrote:
That's something I won't share publicly. I'll PM it to a certain someone, or perhaps two people.

syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:36 GMT
#350
Did you make the testament before day ended
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 14 2011 17:39 GMT
#351
I am not getting why chaos13 is scum out of blue. He wouldn't sell those fucking landmines but he would plant them instead and I strongly believe someone bought one. If scum got it, that's really bad. If Town, please fucking leave it alone and use as decoration together with the flowers in Your dinning room. I would STILL lynch Radfield, ON or heist are both good lynches.
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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:40 GMT
#352
On July 15 2011 02:36 syllogism wrote:
Did you make the testament before day ended


Yes. At 8:59 to be exact.

Thanks Kurumi, nice to have someone with me here. Just out of curiosity, which one of you is killing me tonight? Or will I be the target of a wasted lynch tomorrow?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:42 GMT
#353
Well then I know for a fact you didn't sell anything or are lying about the testament. Either way, even disregarding that you are 100% scum
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:44 GMT
#354
On July 15 2011 02:42 syllogism wrote:
Well then I know for a fact you didn't sell anything or are lying about the testament. Either way, even disregarding that you are 100% scum


There are three things wrong with this statement.
1. I sold something
2. I am not lying about the testament
3. I am not scum

Now which one of you three (Palmar, sandroba, you) is killing me tonight?
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 14 2011 17:45 GMT
#355
On July 15 2011 02:44 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 15 2011 02:42 syllogism wrote:
Well then I know for a fact you didn't sell anything or are lying about the testament. Either way, even disregarding that you are 100% scum


There are three things wrong with this statement.
1. I sold something
2. I am not lying about the testament
3. I am not scum

Now which one of you three (Palmar, sandroba, you) is killing me tonight?

See you don't have all the information available, so it's easy to see why you made the mistake of claiming that. Anyway, you don't need to know
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 17:54 GMT
#356
Fine. When I die and flip town, you need to claim it and the method of killing. If you do not, I fully expect town to systematically kill each of you three to find the scum inside your pretty little circle. It would be so easy for scum to kill me with encouragement from townies and not be questioned about it.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 14 2011 17:57 GMT
#357
Unless Syllogism is playing super-mad-awesome-I-see-into-the-future-good scum game, Chaos13 basically lied.

Like there is no way about it, Chaos cannot both have created a testament and a contract, that contradicts something syllogism told me this morning, long before syllo or I had any idea what transactions Chaos13 would claim.

So please Chaos, explain why you're lying?

And if he's in fact telling the truth, we nail Syllo.

But yes, you guys have given statements that cannot both be true, and I think Syllo is telling the truth.
Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:02 GMT
#358
Why would I be unable to make both a testament and contract?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
July 14 2011 18:10 GMT
#359
On July 15 2011 03:02 chaos13 wrote:
Why would I be unable to make both a testament and contract?


Stop rolefishing, scum.
Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
July 14 2011 18:22 GMT
#360
Oh shut up. How the hell was I supposed to know it was part of a role? That was a genuine question, since I made both a contract and a testament and I have no reason to think of why I could not do so.

If you're town I encourage you to PM someone and explain why, because if you're the only one who knows, then mafia can shoot you tonight and syllo will be safe, cause I'm not lying.
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