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Radfield
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On July 13 2011 05:03 heist wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 03:56 sandroba wrote:
Hello everyone. I don't like the post above one bit. Lynching a lurker is about 27 times better than lynching rad day 1 and you say you are not sure, but he seems like a good lynch? Huh? How does that make any sense?
Also kurumi is suspicious for being a try hard, but saying nothing useful. Nisani for the above post AND for suporting kurumi. Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 04:35 sandroba wrote:
1) I'm not advocating a lurker lynch
2) I'm not defending Radfield
That said he does not strike me as scummy and I would rather we pressure really scummy people like kurumi and nisani. Sandroba I don't see in any way how Kurumi is more scummy at this point than Radfield based on actions alone. On the contrary, Kurumi is pointing out what exactly makes Radfield our leading suspect (although the BP contradiction is quite bs). role-fishing is one of the scummiest things to do. Isn't it a bit suspicious that radfield folds on his trap after one line of inquiry? That said, is he super-scummy? No but I like his chances at flipping red more than a lurker's.
I have zero votes heist, and in no way shape or form am I the most scummy player in this thread. However, given that certain players seem to be bent on spending their time focused on me today, here is my proposal: Set aside your suspicions for 1 cycle. If by day 2 you still think I am the best target for a lynch, then push me with all your might. However, in the meantime, stop focusing on my terrible first post that had apprx 3 minutes of thought, and instead look around at the other players in the thread. I am confident that by day 2 my posting will have spoken for itself.
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On July 13 2011 05:15 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:On July 13 2011 05:11 Kurumi wrote:
I dislike meta, but now it came handy. ...Except it really shows nothing...? Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that.
I like it when you're the SK and you just tell everybody. Are you the SK Kurumi?
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On July 13 2011 05:26 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 05:15 Kurumi wrote:On July 13 2011 05:14 OriginalName wrote:On July 13 2011 05:11 Kurumi wrote:
I dislike meta, but now it came handy. ...Except it really shows nothing...? Funny how Ace was telling me that everytime I brought it up in our scumchat during PYPI.. Based on myself I know I behave differently based on alignment - easy as that. I like it when you're the SK and you just tell everybody. Are you the SK Kurumi?
I can assure You I am a Townie, Jackal58 
Radfield, since You're done apologizing and finding excuses, care to share some opinions on players?
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Ok, I no longer think kurumi is scum. I like ON and Nisani as scum better.
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I can definitely give you the benefit of the doubt this early on radfield. I'm just really surprised that Sandroba can completely disregard everything you've done and now he's put you on his no lynch list.
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I'm not surprised, I find it unlikely a good player would be so daring/careless as scum, especially in hist first few posts
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Yeah, I don't really like sandroba at the moment. His list smells like a weak attempt at buying safety. There is no reason for a town sided person to exclude players from getting lynched day 1, it simply does not make sense.
But then again, I completely agree with Sandroba on ON. ON has done almost nothing but not commiting this game, he also randomly fos'd sandroba out of the blue. I was talking to him on IRC at the time, and he mentioned radfield/kurumi/nisani being scummy, but a little later I said Sandroba was scummy, and that's the person he fos'd. He basically went with my read over his own, which also smells like an attempt to buy friends.
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On July 13 2011 05:24 sandroba wrote:
OK, players I refuse to lynch day1 this game are
myself =)
syllogism
radfield
gmarshal
Everyone else is fair game. I'm liking ON as scum, he's making bland posts and not commiting, while soft pushing me as scum.
Please provide evidence because im fairly sure i committed to lynching scummy lurkers over all else day 1 and im even more sure that you are just omgusing me because i decided to push you.
I agree mostly with that list overall though syllogism just hasnt done quite enough yet to warrent that spot.
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On July 13 2011 05:39 Palmar wrote:
Yeah, I don't really like sandroba at the moment. His list smells like a weak attempt at buying safety. There is no reason for a town sided person to exclude players from getting lynched day 1, it simply does not make sense.
But then again, I completely agree with Sandroba on ON. ON has done almost nothing but not commiting this game, he also randomly fos'd sandroba out of the blue. I was talking to him on IRC at the time, and he mentioned radfield/kurumi/nisani being scummy, but a little later I said Sandroba was scummy, and that's the person he fos'd. He basically went with my read over his own, which also smells like an attempt to buy friends.
I had weak cases until I found Sandroba, I still have weak cases, I dont like commiting to weak cases because very often weak cases are wrong. I haven't even put a vote down on anyone yet and neither has anyone else. So how can anyone really be called commital yet?
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On the contrary, I'm not OMGUS because you did not "push" for me, you instead sugested other players to do it for you, while providing no reasoning.
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I was just going to say, despite that, I agree with Sandroba on Nisani as more likely scum although I'm assuming it's just based on this one post?
On July 13 2011 02:25 Nisani201 wrote:
I also am not sure about Radfield... however he seems like a good lynch to me. Unless a better lynch pops up then we probably should stay on him. A lurker lynch is not a good idea because they always end up being town, and every Townie matters when we're in a quantity battles with the Mafia in the later game (as Kurumi so nicely pointed out earlier in the thread).
Lurkers are not always town. You really shouldn't be making any statement that encourages people to lurk. He does seem eager to lynch someone with very little evidence. I am fully expecting to eat my own words right here because after all this is just one post, but I'm just pointing out that this post does not seem very pro-town at all.
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On July 13 2011 05:36 syllogism wrote:
I'm not surprised, I find it unlikely a good player would be so daring/careless as scum, especially in hist first few posts
It's a dangerous game you play when you assume scum won't do something. Scum will do whatever it takes to not seem like scum. If people think that scum won't be so outspoken/daring early on... that seems like the perfect thing for scum to do.
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On July 13 2011 05:16 GMarshal wrote:Wait, Chezinu is playing in this? Day 1 target acquired. 
That's interesting.
You suggested exactly the same thing day 1 as scum in CCM.
You know that if we policy lynch him scum will basically get a free pass day 1 hiding behind a policy lynch.
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On July 13 2011 06:10 Palmar wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 05:16 GMarshal wrote:Wait, Chezinu is playing in this? Day 1 target acquired. That's interesting. You suggested exactly the same thing day 1 as scum in CCM. You know that if we policy lynch him scum will basically get a free pass day 1 hiding behind a policy lynch.
And I will *continue* to suggest it. As long as Chez remains so hard to read.
I love the guy, he is hilarious, but he makes scumhunting harder.
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On July 13 2011 06:14 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On July 13 2011 06:10 Palmar wrote:On July 13 2011 05:16 GMarshal wrote:Wait, Chezinu is playing in this? Day 1 target acquired. That's interesting. You suggested exactly the same thing day 1 as scum in CCM. You know that if we policy lynch him scum will basically get a free pass day 1 hiding behind a policy lynch. And I will *continue* to suggest it. As long as Chez remains so hard to read. I love the guy, he is hilarious, but he makes scumhunting harder.
Chez in a PM game is even harder. But reading him is easy, if he hasn't bagged the whole scum team by Day 2, Day 3 at the latest.... off with his head
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I make one post and now everyone is all over me? WTF?
The only reason why you guys think that the post is scummy is because it isn't super confident. I wasn't being very confident about it because there was so little evidence; Day 1 reads should never yield absolute confidence IMO. I doubt he will get lynched today but I was just suggesting that it would be better to lynch him because of scumminess rather than a lurker.
I don't think we should lynch Chezinu because he's not posting. If he completely lurks then he will just get modkilled anyways.
Anyways, I guess I'll post my opinions on some players now, because I'll probably be asked to do so anyways sooner or later.
Radfield - Appears to be full of contradictions and scumslips. They are forgivable but we should definitely keep an eye on him throughout Day 2.
Kurumi - He seems to be slowly easing off his tunneling of Radfield, probably because people are calling him scum. If he truly thought that Radfield were Mafia then I think he would be pressing a bit harder, but now he just seems to be acting for the crowd. Suspicious.
chaos13 - Playing pro-town; all of his posts have evidence behind them and have a lot of content. Doesn't seem suspicious.
GMarshal - Seems to be playing his standard leadership town role. I don't see a difference between his playstyle now and his playstyle from RTM so he seems innocent to me.
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I will push Radfield lynch tomorrow Nisani, don't worry.
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Ok, I'm convinced Nisani is scum.
##Vote: Nisani201
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On July 13 2011 07:15 sandroba wrote:
Ok, I'm convinced Nisani is scum.
##Vote: Nisani201
Explain.
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