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TheAwesomeAll
Profile Joined January 2011
Netherlands1609 Posts
July 23 2011 20:46 GMT
#1781
docs cops, you know
dr Helvetica <3
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 23 2011 21:02 GMT
#1782
This is a bit late, but...

Blue Action Advice:
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Many people argue against giving blues advice, because it's public, and then the mafia know what our plans are. This has a seed of truth, but is ultimately an oversimplification of the actual reality. If I say "All medics protect Qatol!" the mafia will very likely not hit that person, so as to avoid loosing a KP to a medic. However, clever medics will see that and say "Mafia will very likely not hit him, so I'm going to protect someone else". What this ends up doing is creating endless circles of WIFOM for the mafia. That's a very good thing.


Medics: Your goal is to stop people from dying. Not just protecting people from dying. Don't forget that. Think like the mafia, and try to figure out who they are likely to hit.

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People I think are good mafia targets, and thus good medic targets:
Mig
Drazek
Sevryn
Jackal


Note: This is NOT a list of people whom I consider most town. This is a list of people who the mafia would want to kill, if they are not actually mafia. For instance, Mig might be mafia, but if he isn't, he'd be a great kill.


DT: Your job is to find scum. Not confirmed townies, or blacks. Every check you make gives us information, and you will want to maximize that ability. If you give us the role of someone who is very active, that gives us a small amount of info more than we know already. If you check someone who is very quiet, we get much more info. Do not check people who are likely to be lynched. Do not check people who are very active in the town. They will show their true colors on the scaffolds or in the thread.

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People who I think would make a good DT check
Snotboogie (Very good check, imo.)
Amber[LighT]
Bumatlarge
Zona

Note: These are people who have had very light thread presence, and have acted scummy to some extent. The best scum for a DT to find is a lurker scum, as they are the hardest to catch otherwise.


Vig's: Your job is to kill people who need to die, but will never get lynched. Scummy lurkers are really hard to lynch because you can't build a case against nothing. Honestly, even with the wifom that it generates, I'm against telling vig's who to hit because their individualism is their greatest ability. In Insane 2, It would have been nearly impossible to lynch Meapak, but a vig caught onto his mistake, and shot him. he was the GF.

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That being said, CB is a pretty "safe" hit at this point imo...


Mad Hatters: I have played very little with them, and don't feel qualified to comment on strategy. Anyone else want to chip in?
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 23 2011 21:05 GMT
#1783
As for MH just bomb scummy people , so You take them with You . Hi bum .
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 23 2011 21:07 GMT
#1784
I guess what I should have said is:

Offensive actions should be directed into the inactive/lurker crowd, Defensive actions should be directed into the active crowd.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 23 2011 21:12 GMT
#1785
On July 24 2011 05:41 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 04:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Shraft, give some opinions on players you find suspicious. I red your posts and the entirety of them wouldn't even fill one page in office. I don't like how you are skating by without an opinion.


Currently I am most suspicious of Pyo. I believe that Eternalmisfit has a rather big chance of being mafia too. Nisani I think is town. What do you care mr 3rd party?

I think pyo hasn't done anything particularly suspicious. I read over all his posts and it doesn't strike me as him really pushing a anti town agenda, just that he isn't particularly good or productive. In any case I would keep an eye on him.
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Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 23 2011 21:18 GMT
#1786
Addendum to my medic list:

If you really want to dive into the blackhole of wifom that is Palmar, then go ahead. Mafia could be trying to scare off medics by saying blacks will hit him, then they will actually take the shot. There are a TON of possibilities, I just didn't include him because I figured the chances that mafia are going to shoot him are very low. (And we can't stop blacks so...yeah.)
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 23 2011 21:22 GMT
#1787
On July 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:41 Shraft wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Shraft, give some opinions on players you find suspicious. I red your posts and the entirety of them wouldn't even fill one page in office. I don't like how you are skating by without an opinion.


Currently I am most suspicious of Pyo. I believe that Eternalmisfit has a rather big chance of being mafia too. Nisani I think is town. What do you care mr 3rd party?

I think pyo hasn't done anything particularly suspicious. I read over all his posts and it doesn't strike me as him really pushing a anti town agenda, just that he isn't particularly good or productive. In any case I would keep an eye on him.


Imo, you just described an excellent DT target.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#1788
That's precisely what I was thinking!
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 23 2011 21:34 GMT
#1789
You must be kidding ...
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 23 2011 21:35 GMT
#1790
Amber/Pyo/Bumatlarge are probably the best DT checks.

I would recommend any DT on the player list from 1-13 checks Amber, 14-27 checks Pyo and 28-40 checks bumatlarge
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Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 23 2011 21:59 GMT
#1791
On July 24 2011 06:12 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 24 2011 05:41 Shraft wrote:
On July 24 2011 04:39 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Shraft, give some opinions on players you find suspicious. I red your posts and the entirety of them wouldn't even fill one page in office. I don't like how you are skating by without an opinion.


Currently I am most suspicious of Pyo. I believe that Eternalmisfit has a rather big chance of being mafia too. Nisani I think is town. What do you care mr 3rd party?

I think pyo hasn't done anything particularly suspicious. I read over all his posts and it doesn't strike me as him really pushing a anti town agenda, just that he isn't particularly good or productive. In any case I would keep an eye on him.


Pyo has thrown away both of his votes and he also made his infamous post d1 where he made it clear he wouldn't take a stance. Moreover, his vote on varys was based on very weak reasoning:

On July 23 2011 02:43 Pyo wrote:
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On July 23 2011 02:06 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Also, as for Varys, I'm of the opinion he's town, only because he sent me this PM:
From: VarysTheSpider [ 21 posts | Profile | Buddy | Report ]
Subject: im new to mafia
Date: 7/18/11 11:37
Hey Mr wiggles! I'm new to mafia and I'm town and am looking for people to strategize with. Do you have any advice for me?

Which actually came before he even made a post in the thread, if I remember correctly. This looks to me, like a new townie who read my first post, and figured I'd be a good person to ask for advice. If he were mafia, I don't think he would have come up with this himself. In my games, I've never really seen it. Has anyone else ever seen a new mafia member coached to contact a vet asking for advice to seem like a new town? I'm genuinely curious, because this looks like noob town, to me.


What!? I wouldn't believe that for a second. Maybe I'm just projecting here, but as noob town I'd be scared to talk to anyone.

##vote VarysTheSpider


How is that not suspicious?
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
July 23 2011 22:00 GMT
#1792
Pyo is terrible Batman
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 23 2011 22:04 GMT
#1793
YEAH I HAVE SOME GREAT MH ADVICE. Allow me to give me expertise! How about not provoking your ability and rather let it happen naturally? :D

Ill be back
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
July 23 2011 22:15 GMT
#1794
Another reason that was unmentioned ignoring blacks is that they are immune to NKP, so it's in their best interest to appear as pro-town as possible. This is more true of traditional SK's, but still holds true in this situation. The will legitimately try to help the town in the thread so that they are never lynched. For this reason they are helpful to us.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 23 2011 22:35 GMT
#1795
On July 24 2011 07:04 bumatlarge wrote:
YEAH I HAVE SOME GREAT MH ADVICE. Allow me to give me expertise! How about not provoking your ability and rather let it happen naturally? :D

Ill be back

perfect timing, someone put a bomb on Bum, I feel its necessary. On top of that this statement is wrong. If I suspect a mad hatter I would force explode him to rid a suspect while trying to have him take someone out.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:28 GMT
#1796
Vigis whomever you choose to kill, do not shoot CB. CB is pretty much guaranteed II but he has quit. He didn't vote last time and he will be modkilled tomorrow, do not waste your shot.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:45 GMT
#1797
If you look at the mafia deaths you see Crjninja (newb), Redff (upper mid tier player), YM (Veteran). Normally Roleblocker will go to the best player that is not godfather. Since YM was the Godfather and Redff was just a goon you can say with a very high probability that the rber is someone more experience than Red. So the mafia rber is almost certainly one of, Amber/Jackal/Wiggles/Kavdragon/Zona. There is some small chance kenpachi/decon/rol could be rber but it is a lot less likely.

I would be fine with all 5 of the players listed dying but here is the order of importance for killing them

1. Amber - Amber actually contributed more as a dog in PTP. His posts day 1 were 100% about game mechanics then day 2 he posted one awful analysis. He has done absolutely nothing this game, lurked as scum in the past, and if you look at the one analysis he did do it is full of logic errors (common scum forced analysis trait).

2. Jackal - Has done 0 scum hunting, at least in the thread. Voted nisani without even discussing YM. Also the fact that both him and YM pointed out honeypot to nota makes him more suspicious.

3. Zona - Been completely useless. I am not real familiar with Zona's meta but as a vet he should be contributing much much more. Many of Zona's posts are on game mechanics and provide no help to the town. Along with that zona voted for ym without very good reasoning late in the day when it would be easy for scum to bandwagon on.

4. Kavdragon - was part of the infiltrated honeypot, has not contributed much this game. But YM subtly implied to naz in a pm that nota's death might have implicated Kav. So I am willing to put him lower on the list of my suspicions.

5. Wiggles - I have thought wiggles wasn't town most of the game actually. He also defended YM several times in thread and pm and he voted Nisani instead of YM. However every time YM posted saying I should be lynched he mentioned honeypot. The main 2 people that were implicated in honeypot were myself/wiggles. If YM had gotten me lynched, I would have flipped town and so he would have been forced to push for wiggles lynch next. This is basically the only real strong thing to defend wiggles there is but it seems important to me. If wiggles/ym were actually both scum I think YM would have told wiggles about honeypot so he could tell notasmurf and not be implicated by it. So for now I think wiggles is at least not scum, he could still easily be third party.

Besides those guys I think Prpl/Pyo/Lucidity/Sevryn should be viggd/killed/dt checked.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:45 GMT
#1798
Oh also I agree bum would be a good one to check. He is normally much more helpful but I am not sure if he has rl things or what.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 23 2011 23:53 GMT
#1799
If I were to guess exact scum team I would go with Amber/Jackal/Prpl/Sevryn.

3rd parties - RoL/Decon/Wiggles
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Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 24 2011 00:51 GMT
#1800
i said prplhz was scum on day 1. i deserve some goddamn credit when he flips mafioso
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