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On July 20 2011 09:42 sandroba wrote:
Updated vote count:
VisceraEyes leads with 12 votes
Mr.Wiggles 2
Drazerk
ghrur
supersoft 6
Liquid`Nazgul
Nisani201
VarysTheSpider
Amber[Light]
notasmurf
snotboogie
Pyo 1
CreamyButter (INSANE INMATE)
redFF 12
ketomai
prplhz
syllogism
Shraft
deconduo
VisceraEyes
Kurumi
Curu
Mr.Wiggles
Palmar
Jackal58
hiro protagonist
Liquid`Nazgul 1
Pyo
youngminii 1
TheAwesomeAll
VisceraEyes 12
RebirthOfLegend
bumatlarge
redFF
youngminii
Coagulation
Zona
EternalMisfit
supersoft
Mig
CjrNinja
Lucidity
Sevryn
CreamyButter 1
Kenpahi
On July 23 2011 10:01 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Day 2 Vote Count:
youngminii leads with 16 votes.
Kavdragon 0
Kavdragon
Lucidity
RebirthOfLegend 0
Palmar
ketomai
Mig
snotboogie
youngminii
Palmar
Pyo
TheAwesomeAll
Nisani201 8
Palmar
Kurumi
supersoft
VisceraEyes
Mig
Liquid`Nazgul
prplhz
snotboogie
VarysTheSpider
Jackal58
Lucidity
Mr. Wiggles
youngminii
EternalMisfit
hiro protagonist
EternalMisfit 1
EternalMisfit
prplhz
CreamyButter
Nisani201
youngminii 16
Nisani201
Shraft
Palmar
TheAwesomeAll
Drazerk
Mig
Liquid`Nazgul
supersoft
Kurumi
bumatlarge
deconduo
sevryn
VarystheSpider
Kavdragon
zona
rebirthoflegend
deconduo 0
Mr. Wiggles
VisceraEyes
bumatlarge
VarysTheSpider 2
Pyo
Amber[Light]
Ghrur 1
ghrur
Ketomai 1
ketomai
A colorized voting list for the past two days.
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if we base it off voting patterns, id say lucidity and hiro
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Nice~
I say we lynch RoL and hope he's the Joker, then after that, continue to attack mafia. Lynching for 3rd party is easy (lynch inactives), but it doesn't tell us much about the remaining mafia. More than likely, all non-Joker 3rd parties will also help us kill off inactives (again, most likely 3rd parties), so we should just focus on mafia after the hopefully surefire -1KP of RoL.
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Lucidity is a good suspect just based on voting pattern. He is the only person to appear on both non scum wagons. Since the VE wagon was so close I don't feel there was much mafia purposeful manipulation of who was on what list, however the second vote against youngminii is distinctly possible mafia purposely jumped ship back and forth. So any cross outs should also be compared against the VE vote list.
With that in mind, the only person to show up on BOTH those lists was lucidity. I will come back in a bit and give an actual behavioral analysis to determine if I actually believe he is scum.
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On July 24 2011 11:15 ketomai wrote:
Nice~
I say we lynch RoL and hope he's the Joker, then after that, continue to attack mafia. Lynching for 3rd party is easy (lynch inactives), but it doesn't tell us much about the remaining mafia. More than likely, all non-Joker 3rd parties will also help us kill off inactives (again, most likely 3rd parties), so we should just focus on mafia after the hopefully surefire -1KP of RoL.
Sigh, what fucking proof do you have of my being third party? This has to be a fucking joke. The only shit you clowns have been going off of is the fact I lied about being medic protected which I feel I explained my reasoning for already and that it was justified.
Show me what the fuck I have done to look scummy besides that? Nothing, thanks. Now get off palmar's dick.
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On July 24 2011 11:15 ketomai wrote:
Nice~
I say we lynch RoL and hope he's the Joker, then after that, continue to attack mafia. Lynching for 3rd party is easy (lynch inactives), but it doesn't tell us much about the remaining mafia. More than likely, all non-Joker 3rd parties will also help us kill off inactives (again, most likely 3rd parties), so we should just focus on mafia after the hopefully surefire -1KP of RoL.
Also, I want to express just how suspect this entire post is as well. In spite of all the times I pointed out how the blacks are literally a problem that cleans ITSELF up. What purpose could we have in ever killing them? Seriously, lay off it. Stop trying to push your mafia agenda onto townies. I assure you that as soon as I am done reading lucidity, you are next.
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Since I have 2 confirmed scum voting for me, does that make me confirmed townie?
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Third parties exist, so no. It just means you aren't the last of the scum.
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On July 24 2011 11:24 Nisani201 wrote:
Since I have 2 confirmed scum voting for me, does that make me confirmed townie?
or your scum buddies bandwaggoned near the end of your voting spree and when the bandwagon died decided they could safely keep their votes on their scumbuddy
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Lynch ROL. Joker dies, 3rd party are out of the game. Leaves town with 2 mafia, easy win.
##Vote ROL
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On July 24 2011 11:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 11:15 ketomai wrote:
Nice~
I say we lynch RoL and hope he's the Joker, then after that, continue to attack mafia. Lynching for 3rd party is easy (lynch inactives), but it doesn't tell us much about the remaining mafia. More than likely, all non-Joker 3rd parties will also help us kill off inactives (again, most likely 3rd parties), so we should just focus on mafia after the hopefully surefire -1KP of RoL. Sigh, what fucking proof do you have of my being third party? This has to be a fucking joke. The only shit you clowns have been going off of is the fact I lied about being medic protected which I feel I explained my reasoning for already and that it was justified. Show me what the fuck I have done to look scummy besides that? Nothing, thanks. Now get off palmar's dick.
I'm sorry, but I don't accept "I'm being lazy, my fault" as a sufficient answer in the thread to why you have been lurking. You only start contributing to get yourself out of a lynch in the future. To me, the chances that that is true is way way way smaller than the chance that you intentionally lurked. It's nothing personal, it's just logic lol. Of course there is no way to know for absolute sure, but again, the policy at the beginning was that liars in general = lynch, and you fit both that and the lurking tendencies of the 3rd party. You clearly lied, and at a point where there's not much mafia left, it's best to just remove any doubts immediately.
Blacks clean themselves up, yes this is true. However, in your specific case, you've been suspicious from the get go, it won't hurt to do a just-in-case lynch, especially since you can't be vig hit during the night at all. After that, yes, leave the blacks to themselves.
I'll remind you that I basically started the redFF bandwagon. Along with that, there's no possibility I intentionally did it as mafia because I have not asked for roles nor have I used that status as an almost clear townie to gain information about fellow townies (I'm actually not active at all in PM's).
Again, I'm not attacking you and saying for sure you're third party. I just think it's the best course of action for the town as a whole to get rid of any lingering doubts.
Here are the facts:
You did not contribute at all for the crucial beginning of the game despite supposedly having a role that benefits most from open contribution and investigation.
You continued to let suspicious behavior pile upon yourself in favor of laying low because there were more important lynch suspects at the time.
You lied to town.
Even you should see why I might suspect you as 3rd party. Even if we were only 50% sure, it would be best to lynch you based on the town situation at the moment. The risk vs reward is really good in favor of town, but of course, not yourself.
And again, I'm not advocating actively lynching 3rd party, I'm advocating the opposite aside from this one specific RoL lynch.
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Let's try to figure out some deaths
Mr. Wiggles
Seems to make sense to be a 3rd party kill. He was useless to town and suspect 3rd party. Mafia wouldn't kill him because of that. It would not make much sense for our vigs to go after him. Also CB/EM are very possible vig shots. Wiggles probably died to 3rd party.
Theawesomeall
Probably one of the two mafia shots.
Mig
Probably the other mafia shot.
Amber[light]
Migs bomb.
jackal58
Migs bomb.
creamybutter
Vig shot. Would make no sense for mafia nor 3rd party.
eternalmisfit
Seems like a vig shot. Could be a 3rd party shot.
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Now related to this something I've been wondering about is why is Pyo alive. Seems to make no sense for him to make it through this night. Did he not get shot, do we have two vigs total that picked CB/EM maybe? Or did he get shot and is he a vet or 3rd party? Pyo still suspect as both mafia and now also a bit as 3rd party. It's hard to believe he is a vet. Plays anti-town and never did anything to draw a mafia shot onto him, quite the opposite really.
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So basically Pyo did not get shot (?), is still a big suspect for mafia, and also a bit 3p. Seems like a good lynch target.
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I suggest a mass PM claim 
Mafia cannot pick off the remaining blues and I'm fairly certain we can confirm someone 100% unless a blue went MIA. We can have each surviving blue with flavor PM someone different, and then we can go from there?
We have 6 flavored blues left vs 2 mafia and 3 SK roles. Seems like fantastic odds if we feel like chancing it. But I think clues will be very very useful, that seems like something I could put some effort into.
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On July 24 2011 13:01 bumatlarge wrote:I suggest a mass PM claim Mafia cannot pick off the remaining blues and I'm fairly certain we can confirm someone 100% unless a blue went MIA. We can have each surviving blue with flavor PM someone different, and then we can go from there? We have 6 flavored blues left vs 2 mafia and 3 SK roles. Seems like fantastic odds if we feel like chancing it. But I think clues will be very very useful, that seems like something I could put some effort into.
Care to give a source on this? As far as I know the number of blues is purposely obscured.
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On July 24 2011 11:37 ketomai wrote:Show nested quote +On July 24 2011 11:18 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:On July 24 2011 11:15 ketomai wrote:
Nice~
I say we lynch RoL and hope he's the Joker, then after that, continue to attack mafia. Lynching for 3rd party is easy (lynch inactives), but it doesn't tell us much about the remaining mafia. More than likely, all non-Joker 3rd parties will also help us kill off inactives (again, most likely 3rd parties), so we should just focus on mafia after the hopefully surefire -1KP of RoL. Sigh, what fucking proof do you have of my being third party? This has to be a fucking joke. The only shit you clowns have been going off of is the fact I lied about being medic protected which I feel I explained my reasoning for already and that it was justified. Show me what the fuck I have done to look scummy besides that? Nothing, thanks. Now get off palmar's dick. I'm sorry, but I don't accept "I'm being lazy, my fault" as a sufficient answer in the thread to why you have been lurking. You only start contributing to get yourself out of a lynch in the future. To me, the chances that that is true is way way way smaller than the chance that you intentionally lurked. It's nothing personal, it's just logic lol. Of course there is no way to know for absolute sure, but again, the policy at the beginning was that liars in general = lynch, and you fit both that and the lurking tendencies of the 3rd party. You clearly lied, and at a point where there's not much mafia left, it's best to just remove any doubts immediately. Blacks clean themselves up, yes this is true. However, in your specific case, you've been suspicious from the get go, it won't hurt to do a just-in-case lynch, especially since you can't be vig hit during the night at all. After that, yes, leave the blacks to themselves. I'll remind you that I basically started the redFF bandwagon. Along with that, there's no possibility I intentionally did it as mafia because I have not asked for roles nor have I used that status as an almost clear townie to gain information about fellow townies (I'm actually not active at all in PM's). Again, I'm not attacking you and saying for sure you're third party. I just think it's the best course of action for the town as a whole to get rid of any lingering doubts. Here are the facts: You did not contribute at all for the crucial beginning of the game despite supposedly having a role that benefits most from open contribution and investigation. You continued to let suspicious behavior pile upon yourself in favor of laying low because there were more important lynch suspects at the time. You lied to town. Even you should see why I might suspect you as 3rd party. Even if we were only 50% sure, it would be best to lynch you based on the town situation at the moment. The risk vs reward is really good in favor of town, but of course, not yourself. And again, I'm not advocating actively lynching 3rd party, I'm advocating the opposite aside from this one specific RoL lynch.
All I can say to that is I have a tendency to act that way in big games on day 1. It's hard to get reads on everyone Day 1 as well as the constant pointless spam is irritating as fuck. Not the best excuse but a reason none the less.
I explained my reasoning for lying, I believe it was justified, you don't have to if you don't want.
Besides that, starting Day 2 I was active, and I haven't stopped being active. I don't think I have played "scummy" besides those explainable instances.
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I just finished reading lucidity. Strangest reading I have ever had, I'd say red and possibly third party.
He uses very strange logic some times but his posts are really really thought out and meticulously written, like he purposely searches for anything that might be scummy and try to remedy it. The issue I had is with his meticulous detail he posted about, he had an unusual focus on third party, as well as constantly voting wrong while seemingly being able to think things out properly.
I suggest everyone give his posts a read and apply some thoughts. Although for most of the game flips my reads have been very accurate, but his posting strikes a bit odd.
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On July 24 2011 11:35 deconduo wrote:
Lynch ROL. Joker dies, 3rd party are out of the game. Leaves town with 2 mafia, easy win.
##Vote ROL
You haven't done shit all fucking game apart from a presumably fake claim you refused to elaborate on, and now you pop back in to act like a clown.
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