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Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 26 2011 22:41 GMT
#2021
Well now that Ra'as is gone, Batman should probably play it safe and hold off on shooting Palmar, since the only threat to him is being lynched.

There's 2 insane, 2 mafia, 2 3rd party, and 16 (SIXTEEN) town now, with 1 mafia KP, 2 3rd party KP, and maybe a vig, so there's a good amount of time to resolve things.

BTW, Palmar, since you didn't name your medic buddy, how can you ensure Batman doesn't shoot him or her and wreck your plan?
"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
Zona
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
40426 Posts
July 26 2011 22:42 GMT
#2022
Also, is this a bulletproof claim that we all missed earlier?

On July 23 2011 17:58 Kenpachi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 16:21 ketomai wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:46 Kenpachi wrote:
ugh. i feel bad that im not paying any attention. If there is a replacement, i would gladly give my place. FOR TOWN.


Do you always fail to contribute this badly? Seriously just looking at all your posts in this thread there's like one larger than one line. In addition to that you are always here when the important posts come so it looks to me like selective lurking. If your strategy is to avoid having any evidence against/for your identity, then it won't work on vigis. Start contributing for your own sake because you look suspicious from the point of view of every single party (mafia, town, 3rd party).

thats cool with me. btw thats not my strategy and i couldn't care less about being a townie. My job is to absorb hits (but I'm immortal because i don't die)

oh i know, im going to see if you were scummy this game. You know what this means, a possible analysis! If not, you arent scummy.

"If you try responding to those absurd posts every day, you become more damaged. So I pay no attention to them at all." Jung Myung Hoon (aka Fantasy), as translated by Kimoleon
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 26 2011 23:07 GMT
#2023
Also, even though palmar is almost certainly batman I feel we can use him for our gain. Keep in mind that batman and our win condition are not dependent on one another, we can both technically win. Sure we could spite smite palmar into death, but I say we just use him. Basically, we control where his KP goes every night while aiming for scum, and we let him live. The moment he doesn't listen to us, we kill him.

On that note, Palmar I order you to kill Lucidity. If anyone has an actual issue with that feel free to let me know.
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 26 2011 23:08 GMT
#2024
On July 27 2011 08:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Also, even though palmar is almost certainly batman I feel we can use him for our gain. Keep in mind that batman and our win condition are not dependent on one another, we can both technically win. Sure we could spite smite palmar into death, but I say we just use him. Basically, we control where his KP goes every night while aiming for scum, and we let him live. The moment he doesn't listen to us, we kill him.

On that note, Palmar I order you to kill Lucidity. If anyone has an actual issue with that feel free to let me know.


I order a pizza.
Computer says mafia
supersoft
Profile Joined April 2010
Germany3729 Posts
July 26 2011 23:24 GMT
#2025
On July 27 2011 08:08 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 08:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Also, even though palmar is almost certainly batman I feel we can use him for our gain. Keep in mind that batman and our win condition are not dependent on one another, we can both technically win. Sure we could spite smite palmar into death, but I say we just use him. Basically, we control where his KP goes every night while aiming for scum, and we let him live. The moment he doesn't listen to us, we kill him.

On that note, Palmar I order you to kill Lucidity. If anyone has an actual issue with that feel free to let me know.


I order a pizza.


is that a yes?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 26 2011 23:28 GMT
#2026
On July 27 2011 08:24 supersoft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 08:08 Palmar wrote:
On July 27 2011 08:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Also, even though palmar is almost certainly batman I feel we can use him for our gain. Keep in mind that batman and our win condition are not dependent on one another, we can both technically win. Sure we could spite smite palmar into death, but I say we just use him. Basically, we control where his KP goes every night while aiming for scum, and we let him live. The moment he doesn't listen to us, we kill him.

On that note, Palmar I order you to kill Lucidity. If anyone has an actual issue with that feel free to let me know.


I order a pizza.


is that a yes?


He can't answer that if he really is Batman so there's no point in asking that.
VarysTheSpider
Profile Joined July 2011
United States38 Posts
July 26 2011 23:29 GMT
#2027
On July 27 2011 08:07 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote:
Also, even though palmar is almost certainly batman I feel we can use him for our gain. Keep in mind that batman and our win condition are not dependent on one another, we can both technically win. Sure we could spite smite palmar into death, but I say we just use him. Basically, we control where his KP goes every night while aiming for scum, and we let him live. The moment he doesn't listen to us, we kill him.

On that note, Palmar I order you to kill Lucidity. If anyone has an actual issue with that feel free to let me know.


Ya i feel like Palmar has to be Batman after the Riddler claim... But we both need joker to die in order to win so might as well let Palmar do his thing and hunt the joker for us while we pick off the last two scum.

Palmar can I have a slice?
Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones? --Varys
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2011 23:37 GMT
#2028
Batman claim makes sense, and I agree with Lucidity RoL. Can we lynch snotboogie tomorrow?
darkness overpowering
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
July 26 2011 23:53 GMT
#2029
On July 27 2011 07:42 Zona wrote:
Also, is this a bulletproof claim that we all missed earlier?

Show nested quote +
On July 23 2011 17:58 Kenpachi wrote:
On July 23 2011 16:21 ketomai wrote:
On July 23 2011 11:46 Kenpachi wrote:
ugh. i feel bad that im not paying any attention. If there is a replacement, i would gladly give my place. FOR TOWN.


Do you always fail to contribute this badly? Seriously just looking at all your posts in this thread there's like one larger than one line. In addition to that you are always here when the important posts come so it looks to me like selective lurking. If your strategy is to avoid having any evidence against/for your identity, then it won't work on vigis. Start contributing for your own sake because you look suspicious from the point of view of every single party (mafia, town, 3rd party).

thats cool with me. btw thats not my strategy and i couldn't care less about being a townie. My job is to absorb hits (but I'm immortal because i don't die)

oh i know, im going to see if you were scummy this game. You know what this means, a possible analysis! If not, you arent scummy.


nope. i claimed Kenpachi and i hoped someone would interpret as a bp claim (or vet or w/e)

im on to you
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 27 2011 00:47 GMT
#2030
why so serious?
Computer says mafia
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 27 2011 01:01 GMT
#2031
On July 27 2011 08:37 ghrur wrote:
Batman claim makes sense, and I agree with Lucidity RoL. Can we lynch snotboogie tomorrow?


Sure, but why?
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 27 2011 01:03 GMT
#2032
Also, this game sucked, I never had a chance of actually winning it.
Computer says mafia
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 27 2011 01:28 GMT
#2033
On July 27 2011 10:01 snotboogie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 08:37 ghrur wrote:
Batman claim makes sense, and I agree with Lucidity RoL. Can we lynch snotboogie tomorrow?


Sure, but why?


Day1 vote: Supersoft
Day2 vote: YM

I still think scumhunting other likely candidates is a good move for Day 1 but for the reasons I outlined above I am against changing votes away from Supersoft.

Subtle defense of redFF in favor of lynching SS



I find your "analysis" very, very unconvincing. You're reaching at straws when you say "This also contradicts his previous post about how he was voting for Mig based on the PM; here he is saying that PM ruins games, but in the previous post he uses it as total evidence." He is voting here for Mig because, obviously, he believes Mig has an opinion on PMs consistent with Mafia - that is, YM believes Mafia likes sticking to PM because presumably there are less eyes on the information, and co-ordinating analysis on different bits of PMs between different people is harder than analysing public posts.

YM tries to avoid PMs, and believes Mig is scummy (at least in this particular instance) because Mig seems very intent on advocating PMs. The logic here is clear to me and I believe you using the fact that YM is basing his vote on a PM is deliberately missing the point. Furthermore YM is consistent in his dislike of PMs by publicly airing his conversation here.

Further I am inclined to believe notasmurf, not only because he was town but because he knew enough that he was going to be killed and still trusted YM.

Now YM's post where he reemphasized the facts of Honeypot - I, as a Townie, took that post to be a reminder for us Townies to scumhunt based on data that good work went into. Further it was a summary of a heavy piece of work that was a very logical topic of discussion since it was only the previous page that it was revealed.

You instead took this as YM trying to give himself town cred - you've not only obviously given a lot of thought into a scum perspective on things (hmm...) but you're reeeeeaaaachingggg, bro. In fact I found your ENTIRE ANALYSIS reaching. It reeks of scum panicking under pressure.

Bolded by me for emphasis. Detailed defense of YM.
darkness overpowering
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#2034
On July 27 2011 10:28 ghrur wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 10:01 snotboogie wrote:
On July 27 2011 08:37 ghrur wrote:
Batman claim makes sense, and I agree with Lucidity RoL. Can we lynch snotboogie tomorrow?


Sure, but why?


Day1 vote: Supersoft
Day2 vote: YM

Show nested quote +
I still think scumhunting other likely candidates is a good move for Day 1 but for the reasons I outlined above I am against changing votes away from Supersoft.

Subtle defense of redFF in favor of lynching SS

Show nested quote +


I find your "analysis" very, very unconvincing. You're reaching at straws when you say "This also contradicts his previous post about how he was voting for Mig based on the PM; here he is saying that PM ruins games, but in the previous post he uses it as total evidence." He is voting here for Mig because, obviously, he believes Mig has an opinion on PMs consistent with Mafia - that is, YM believes Mafia likes sticking to PM because presumably there are less eyes on the information, and co-ordinating analysis on different bits of PMs between different people is harder than analysing public posts.

YM tries to avoid PMs, and believes Mig is scummy (at least in this particular instance) because Mig seems very intent on advocating PMs. The logic here is clear to me and I believe you using the fact that YM is basing his vote on a PM is deliberately missing the point. Furthermore YM is consistent in his dislike of PMs by publicly airing his conversation here.

Further I am inclined to believe notasmurf, not only because he was town but because he knew enough that he was going to be killed and still trusted YM.

Now YM's post where he reemphasized the facts of Honeypot - I, as a Townie, took that post to be a reminder for us Townies to scumhunt based on data that good work went into. Further it was a summary of a heavy piece of work that was a very logical topic of discussion since it was only the previous page that it was revealed.

You instead took this as YM trying to give himself town cred - you've not only obviously given a lot of thought into a scum perspective on things (hmm...) but you're reeeeeaaaachingggg, bro. In fact I found your ENTIRE ANALYSIS reaching. It reeks of scum panicking under pressure.

Bolded by me for emphasis. Detailed defense of YM.



Well, I defended YM because I believed that analysis was completely unconvincing (which is what I said). Guess what? It turns out the whole analysis was done because Palmar basically extorted Nisani into doing it. So Nisani went off and tried to find whatever piss poor evidence he had, made a weak analysis, and I called him out on it.

Furthermore, when I made that post saying that we should keep votes on Supersoft, it was far from certain redFF was the main candidate. People were voting Pyo, and you voted mr wiggles. My intention was to lynch a proven liar. Moreover I was asleep by the time it came down to redFF vs VE and if I were awake I would have switched to redFF.

Notice also that I was one of the first to express suspicion about redFF:

On July 19 2011 11:43 snotboogie wrote:
Just caught up with the thread, going to give my brief thoughts:

On July 19 2011 03:46 redFF wrote:
Curu, since your vote is on Supersoft, why are you pm'ing someone you think is mafia?

Also why vote Ketomai supersoft? Just an OMGUS?


If you had read the thread, you'd know that they were in contact through PM's before Curu came to the belief that Supersoft is scummy. This along with your short posts, while accusing others of scummy behaviour due to short posts, makes me quite suspicious of you. You are throwing suspicion around while not having good reasons to back it up. Furthermore your intensely zealous defense of Supersoft is troubling since you don't address the lies and scummy behaviour, but you make up excuses as to how Supersoft could be a Townie.


Regarding Supersoft, I think he's showing too much dodgy behaviour to ignore. He claims he's active in PMs however: he claims Curu is a PM buddy while apparently only a few PMs were exchanged, an claims Mig while the whole conversation is about Mig doubting Supersoft.

Furthermore the lying about his VT claim ("oh I was just kidding" = DODGY) and his general defensiveness just casts more doubt upon him.

##Vote Supersoft


At this point redFF wasn't even in the spotlight.
BloodyC0bbler
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Canada7876 Posts
July 27 2011 01:51 GMT
#2035
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Day 4

“Jack ryder here with another fun detailed experience for all the fun partiers still left to us. Apparently last night was an unproductive night as only three little criminals lost their way. The first poor criminal was found curled on the ground with his entrails in his arms. The second was seen with multiple stabbing wounds as well as burnt. The last was well, beaten with a crowbar. Very unoriginal work, but the result is still the same!” Jack Ryder signing out.”

Varysthespider, prplhz, and bumatlarge the Blackgate criminals were all killed.
#3 Member of the Chill Fanclub / Rhaegar fought nobly. Rhaegar fought valiantly. Rhaegar fought honorably. And Rhaeger died. --Ser Jorah Mormont TL MAFIA FORUM http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/index.php?show_part=31 go go !
snotboogie
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Australia3550 Posts
July 27 2011 01:54 GMT
#2036
I guess this means Nazgul is confirmed town?
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 27 2011 02:01 GMT
#2037
Good luck guys
Together but separate, like oatmeal
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 27 2011 02:03 GMT
#2038
Back to being pseudo invincible for me now.

+1 life baby, w00t.
Be a man, Become a Legend. TL Mafia Forum Ask for access!!
VarysTheSpider
Profile Joined July 2011
United States38 Posts
July 27 2011 02:29 GMT
#2039
GL town... I had a lot of fun playing my first ever game of mafia! I'll be back for more!
Why is it always the innocents who suffer most, when you high lords play your game of thrones? --Varys
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 27 2011 03:06 GMT
#2040
BAAAAAAAATS, WHY'RE YOU KILLING PEOPLE? Dx
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