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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 26 2011 14:57 GMT
#2001
RoL is town btw.
Computer says mafia
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 26 2011 14:57 GMT
#2002
he's just an idiot for lying.
Computer says mafia
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
July 26 2011 14:59 GMT
#2003
Your analyses are so short and concise.

I like it.
Valar Morghulis
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 26 2011 15:09 GMT
#2004
SO WHO'S THE FUCKING JOKER!?
Pyo
Profile Joined October 2010
United States738 Posts
July 26 2011 15:49 GMT
#2005
On July 26 2011 20:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I agree with bum that there is a chance Palmar is a 3rd party. The way he has been running this game is impressive and we need to be aware of the fact that he may not be town. That said Palmar is not making it to the end of this game and as long as he is doing useful things for town there is absolutely no reason to lynch him right now while we look for mafia a bit more.

Specifically before checking the thread today I was going to say I don't trust bumatlarge/Pyo and think one of them is mafia but am not sure which one. I'd like to take both out before we start thinking about lynching Palmar.

My request for now would be Batman please pick some other possible joker targets for now. If Palmar is indeed a medic you could screw this game up by shooting him. We need to at least wait with such desperate measures until we hang bum and then Pyo next. If bum is indeed mafia then the post above makes perfect sense. Just in case Palmar is a medic he is asking Batman to shoot him.


I'm a little curious about this since I seem to have missed where it originally came from, but what is my connection to bumatlarge? I seem to recall Palmar mentioning that I had some connection to him before, but I can't seem to find where this connection came from.
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
July 26 2011 16:10 GMT
#2006
Is ketomai getting modkilled if he doesn't post before deadline?

Post post post.
Valar Morghulis
Lucidity
Profile Joined July 2010
South Africa603 Posts
July 26 2011 16:19 GMT
#2007
And VE and zona? Herpity Lurkety.
Valar Morghulis
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 26 2011 17:53 GMT
#2008
On July 27 2011 00:49 Pyo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 26 2011 20:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I agree with bum that there is a chance Palmar is a 3rd party. The way he has been running this game is impressive and we need to be aware of the fact that he may not be town. That said Palmar is not making it to the end of this game and as long as he is doing useful things for town there is absolutely no reason to lynch him right now while we look for mafia a bit more.

Specifically before checking the thread today I was going to say I don't trust bumatlarge/Pyo and think one of them is mafia but am not sure which one. I'd like to take both out before we start thinking about lynching Palmar.

My request for now would be Batman please pick some other possible joker targets for now. If Palmar is indeed a medic you could screw this game up by shooting him. We need to at least wait with such desperate measures until we hang bum and then Pyo next. If bum is indeed mafia then the post above makes perfect sense. Just in case Palmar is a medic he is asking Batman to shoot him.


I'm a little curious about this since I seem to have missed where it originally came from, but what is my connection to bumatlarge? I seem to recall Palmar mentioning that I had some connection to him before, but I can't seem to find where this connection came from.


don't read too much into it, the only thing people have on me is not posting as often as I usually do. I don't think anyone has done any analysis on me just lazy fleeting accusations because I'm a cool guy and they jelly. Not sure how that relates to you.

VE is doing us a favor by saying nothing, he's a claimed traitor. Anything he says will just distract us.

That makes 6 non-town individuals left. 2 are traitors with no powers, so I think we can make them non-factors, but thats theoretical. 2 are 3rd party, but only one is a true SK. The that leaves 2 mafia and 12 townies, with scattered mounts of blues around.

Palmar, the more I read of the OP, the less I believe you. Ok so BC put in a hidden role when he said he would not. Let's let that slide. You are the riddler, a 4th hidden medic. 2 medics are already dead and you are in contact with the remaining med? Ok then. If that is actually true, I want one more person to claim a hidden role, they don't have to say what it is, just that palmar is teling the truth. If so, I will buy it. They don't even have to be public about it, just PM someone you trust and have them say it for you.

I noticed 3 people said yes in RoL's poll, and even if palmar and his medic partner voted, thats an additional person. So it's possible. I just think it's highly improbable. I know BC is going to keep quiet on the matter, so let's try to figure this out. I think it's the last piece of the puzzle (or perhaps the puzzle is finished and palmar is trying to convince us that it isn't )
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ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2011 18:12 GMT
#2009
BC isn't Caller.
darkness overpowering
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2011 18:23 GMT
#2010
Wait, it's still night. Batman/DTs, just check Palmar.
darkness overpowering
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 26 2011 18:24 GMT
#2011
On July 27 2011 03:23 ghrur wrote:
Wait, it's still night. Batman/DTs, just check Palmar.


How would that help? It is very unlikely that he is mafia, and if he is 3rd party the check will do no good.
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 26 2011 18:26 GMT
#2012
And I'm almost positive we don't have any DTs, if you check the OP you can see that the DTs were the only blues that BC didn't bother to come up with any specific names for.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2011 18:29 GMT
#2013
On July 27 2011 03:24 Shraft wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 03:23 ghrur wrote:
Wait, it's still night. Batman/DTs, just check Palmar.


How would that help? It is very unlikely that he is mafia, and if he is 3rd party the check will do no good.


Yes it will.
I'm betting on the fact that Third Party probably had to pick from the list of names in the OP, and Palmar doesn't want to reveal that he picked someone who already died. Besides, at this point, if Palmar shows up as any of the names listed in the OP, he's flat out lying. If he shows up as Riddler, we can see the role description and see if it even makes sense. At this point, Riddler being a medic makes no sense at all. It's also a simple way for batman to check out a possible joker without risking town getting screwed over.
darkness overpowering
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 26 2011 18:46 GMT
#2014
On July 26 2011 23:57 Palmar wrote:
he's just an idiot for lying.

Coming from the guy who told kurumi to lie about being a mad hatter to the town?
looooool
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RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 26 2011 18:52 GMT
#2015
On July 27 2011 02:53 bumatlarge wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 00:49 Pyo wrote:
On July 26 2011 20:54 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
I agree with bum that there is a chance Palmar is a 3rd party. The way he has been running this game is impressive and we need to be aware of the fact that he may not be town. That said Palmar is not making it to the end of this game and as long as he is doing useful things for town there is absolutely no reason to lynch him right now while we look for mafia a bit more.

Specifically before checking the thread today I was going to say I don't trust bumatlarge/Pyo and think one of them is mafia but am not sure which one. I'd like to take both out before we start thinking about lynching Palmar.

My request for now would be Batman please pick some other possible joker targets for now. If Palmar is indeed a medic you could screw this game up by shooting him. We need to at least wait with such desperate measures until we hang bum and then Pyo next. If bum is indeed mafia then the post above makes perfect sense. Just in case Palmar is a medic he is asking Batman to shoot him.


I'm a little curious about this since I seem to have missed where it originally came from, but what is my connection to bumatlarge? I seem to recall Palmar mentioning that I had some connection to him before, but I can't seem to find where this connection came from.


don't read too much into it, the only thing people have on me is not posting as often as I usually do. I don't think anyone has done any analysis on me just lazy fleeting accusations because I'm a cool guy and they jelly. Not sure how that relates to you.

VE is doing us a favor by saying nothing, he's a claimed traitor. Anything he says will just distract us.

That makes 6 non-town individuals left. 2 are traitors with no powers, so I think we can make them non-factors, but thats theoretical. 2 are 3rd party, but only one is a true SK. The that leaves 2 mafia and 12 townies, with scattered mounts of blues around.

Palmar, the more I read of the OP, the less I believe you. Ok so BC put in a hidden role when he said he would not. Let's let that slide. You are the riddler, a 4th hidden medic. 2 medics are already dead and you are in contact with the remaining med? Ok then. If that is actually true, I want one more person to claim a hidden role, they don't have to say what it is, just that palmar is teling the truth. If so, I will buy it. They don't even have to be public about it, just PM someone you trust and have them say it for you.

I noticed 3 people said yes in RoL's poll, and even if palmar and his medic partner voted, thats an additional person. So it's possible. I just think it's highly improbable. I know BC is going to keep quiet on the matter, so let's try to figure this out. I think it's the last piece of the puzzle (or perhaps the puzzle is finished and palmar is trying to convince us that it isn't )

It's funny, Palmar is trying to beat me to the punch. Palmar name and role claimed to me a couple of days ago when I guessed that he must of been a medic for knowing I lied. When he saw my post with the poll I think he knew exactly where I was going with that.

Palmar did NOT just make up his name claim, but so far half the players are dead with a ton of blues dead as well and oddly enough, all of them have names from the OP, yet palmar is the exception to that rule?

I don't buy it. However what I do believe is that he is not mafia, and he is not joker. Both are inherently anti town roles and what he has done isn't completely anti town apart from the lying and acting stranger than usual.

I explained this in a PM to someone, so I am going to just copy and paste the entire thing.

I suppose he could be batman? Not really too sure. Being active would get him a medic most likely, but batman goes through medic protection so as the joker that would be pointless. The only thing he would have to fear would be ra'as al ghul.

It's all I really got for him, the behavior analysis on him is that he is playing VERY differently than normal, on top of which he was secretly getting Kurumi to claim hatter whcih is REALLY stupid, because at the end of a day a hatter doesn't die, when Kurumi says "btw im not a hatter lol1" you have to lynch him for lying for so long for the dumbest reason.

So I manipulating Kurumi serves only to get him lynched and is overall bad for town. You could argue he thought it was a good idea to lie, and that it was justified. However the way he attacked my lie makes the above logic turning him into a hypocrite.

Conversely, if he thought I was third party and left me for the other third party it could of been him trying to guess my role. If he was batman I would have to be the joker or ra'as. Logically if he is sure I am third party I should get hit that night as long as the other third believes it. If I don't get hit then I am ra'as (assuming palmar is batman) because the joker has no incentive to actually hit me. If I am the joker and I get hit by ra'as I won't die, and palmar confirms that I am the joker, thus allowing him to win the game the next night cycle by hitting me.

That is assuming he is batman, it could be a good way to play. Extremely pro town to not allow ra'as to kill you, then out a third party using the above logic. Plus, if I just straight up died last night that would also help him by confirming I am not third party and allow him to move on.

The fact I didn't die means if Palmar is batman and still believes I am a third party I will get hit to kill the "joker", but then again all this assumes he knows if I got hit again which he would have to deduce from the daily KP count.
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Nisani201
Profile Joined September 2010
United States1400 Posts
July 26 2011 18:57 GMT
#2016
On July 27 2011 03:26 Shraft wrote:
And I'm almost positive we don't have any DTs, if you check the OP you can see that the DTs were the only blues that BC didn't bother to come up with any specific names for.

Wrong, there is a role called Blackgate Sniper.
Enjoy your day.
ghrur
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States3786 Posts
July 26 2011 18:57 GMT
#2017
Wait, was this PM after night 1 or 2?
darkness overpowering
Shraft
Profile Joined October 2010
Sweden701 Posts
July 26 2011 19:18 GMT
#2018
On July 27 2011 03:57 Nisani201 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 27 2011 03:26 Shraft wrote:
And I'm almost positive we don't have any DTs, if you check the OP you can see that the DTs were the only blues that BC didn't bother to come up with any specific names for.

Wrong, there is a role called Blackgate Sniper.


That's what I meant by not creating specific names. Blackgate sniper isn't a specific name like Mr. Freeze, Firefly or Scarecrow. It is much more generic.
RebirthOfLeGenD
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
USA5860 Posts
July 26 2011 19:43 GMT
#2019
On July 27 2011 03:57 ghrur wrote:
Wait, was this PM after night 1 or 2?

If you are referring to my PM it was a day or two ago.
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
July 26 2011 21:42 GMT
#2020
Interesting, I think I'd bet a few dollar bills that blackgate sniper role does not exist.

If palmar is batman, then he has nothing to fear from being hit by batman. If he isn't and batman agrees with me that his medic claim is bullshit, then he should be killed. I don't think it should be risked. Palmar as batman makes everything hunky dory, because he can't die unless we lynch him. He will proceed to "protect" his friend and we can make headway in the other departments. The only bad thing would be him being scum or insane inmate. So he should be checked, and batman should shoot him. Riddler claim is bogus.
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