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Along with that how do we usually get most of our information in mafia games? Lynch results. Sandroba's plan forces everyone to vote twice for every day cycle. This will give us a huge amount of additional information compared to a normal game. People should get over wanting to be the lone ranger trying to single handedly pick out and eliminate the scum team. Realize we need to work as a team, if you think someone is especially scummy then put the effort in to write up a case and argue against them. | ||
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We are playing a game where every person is a Vig the town badly needs structure. Everyone trying to play their own game just leads to a blood bath. | ||
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1) Mafia nuke kp is completely eliminated except for trying to influence the vote. 2) We get a massive amount of extra information. We really don't learn much by having 10 different people all trying to snipe the mafia by themselves. This way it forces people to actually argue and discuss who the scum are and with the additional voting we will be able to see more clear patterns and connections between people to find the scum. 3) Mafia wants townies to play by their emotions and to just go nuts and shoot each other anytime there is an argument or kill the first person who accuses them of being scum. This way the town kp is used with structure to eliminate who the town collectively feels is the most scummy player everyday. It forces the town to work together as a team instead of having 30 people all playing by themselves. And honestly people just imagine any normal game where the town could hold 2 separate lynches a day for every 1 night. It would be incredibly strong for the town. Much much stronger than having a bunch of vigs running around doing whatever they each think is best. Also as soon as I can I am going to vote palmar. Your reasoning against sandroba's plan is incredibly bad and filled with spam. The plan does not take away control from townies it takes control from the mafia. We severely reduce their kp as long as they aren't completely influencing the votes. | ||
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And seriously people it doesn't matter how many nukes mafia has. Mafia could have 5000 nukes but if they fire any of them they get lynched. This is why the mafia's kp is crippled. So who cares if they claim to have 3 or 0 or don't use them. It just doesn't really matter as long as we kill anyone who fires without the town voting on it. | ||
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On July 05 2011 20:17 heist wrote: If we are having 2 lynches, one by nuke and one standard per day, and if all renegade nukers are to be lynched... then thats pretty much nuking any renegade nukers. It doesn't really matter which of the two you nuke, the renegade nuker or the top vote from town. It's the same thing since the renegade nuker will be forced onto a lynch spot. We can either follow sandroba's plan and nuke 1 person a day. Or everyone can play by their own discretion and nuke whenever they want. Which way do you think is going to lead to more people nuked? Sandroba's plan will make it less likely that we reach the radiation limit not make it more likely. | ||
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You are basically arguing it is better for everyone to work alone instead of as a team, which cannot possibly be correct. | ||
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This shouldn't even be debated really. Townies get extra lives even from nukes. And if we use sandroba's plan then it really doesn't matter that much how many nukes mafia has. Also I would prefer we not double lynch today since most day 1 lynches are wrong anyway. But starting day 2 I fully support the sandroba/gm plan with the 40% voters needed. | ||
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On July 06 2011 07:51 Palmar wrote: I think Kurumi's scum. He's being nice, that's a scumtell for him. I do agree with this tho. | ||
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Can any hosts clarify for us? | ||
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I agree with pretty much everything sandroba said, palmar's play has been ridiculously scummy. His reasoning against sandroba's pro town plan was horrible and filled with spam. He wrote up a plan which basically just said shoot scum and don't play stupid. It was pure useless spam made to look pro town. So I am going to vote for palmar for now unless I find out that matza's nuke has not been launched. And either way I want both players dead by the end of tomorrow. | ||
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You know a game is completely screwed when fucking kurumi is the voice of reason. | ||
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On July 07 2011 05:17 GMarshal wrote: I didn't nuke anyone. I said "kill everyone who nukes" then sandroba shot a nuke at me. What do you want from me? But you plan on nuking some random lurker yes? | ||
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On July 07 2011 05:42 Cthsazsa wrote: Why the hell would you shoot the monk If he dies there is no night phase so no night mafia kills. | ||
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On July 07 2011 05:43 GMarshal wrote: I dislike the implication that me coming up with and trying to enforce a plan was not helping the town. Again I don't know what I'm doing with my nuke, but as far as operations go, everyone change to the one that stops us from nuking. Lets not have a repeat of this tomorrow. No I am saying shooting some random lurker isn't going to help town much but kill draz will help the town in a big way. | ||
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Pick someone who is scummy and use it on them. Use some common sense people. | ||
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On July 07 2011 08:33 GMarshal wrote: Oh, good someone with a good thought. In an imaginary world such as the one I'm picturing that sounds like a brilliant plan. Imagine if you had this power, who would you subject to it? GGQ/Kita/Wiggles - GGQ/Kita are both far less active than normal and Wiggles play feels somewhat like last games to me. I would probably prefer GGQ/Kita since they both have almost no posts. | ||
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On July 07 2011 22:18 Mataza wrote: Oh yes I can, because I was killed by underhanded hidden abilities. A sneak attack, an unstoppable nuke or something else that wasn´t apprent from things in the thread. You only got my hopes up to crush them again. Fuck you. You shouldn't have had any hopes of surviving once you launched your first nuke after every person in the thread had talked at length about not nuking unless the town agreed on it (btw I didn't kill you and don't know how you died). | ||
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On July 07 2011 22:24 GMarshal wrote: Wait... what? I had 1 extra life at the start of the game... then palmar nuked me. I got no PMs after that saying I lost the life, but I assumed I had, because thats what missiles do. I just got nuked now and notified I lost my extra life... also apparently the countermissile I shot didn't go off because its "shoddy Chinese equipment". Goddamnit, what that hell is going on, why did palmar's missile earlier not take my extra life away? Did someone do something? Mt head hurts now. Players may continue to use missiles even if they do not have any nukes left but the missiles will not do any damage. From the OP | ||
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On July 09 2011 09:57 GGQ wrote: So I called out three players earlier, I'm still leery on deconduo but Mig seems pretty straight up to me nowadays. My main suspicion now is Cthsaza/Paqman who I would like to promote as a primary lynch target for the next cycle (as soon as Caller deigns to honour us with a day post). I'll write an analysis later is no one else is convinced just by me mentioning his name. I have posted like twice in the last 50 hours, what could I have possibly said to make you less suspicious? Syllo said I haven't scum hunted like I normally do which is 100% accurate. I have no real reason for this other than lack of effort. I don't believe a word GM says. I don't believe he is mafia. But I think the most likely scenario by far for him is that he is a zombie. It makes no sense for him to save matza instead of himself and the "confusion" with his night lives makes little sense. Everything makes a ton more sense if he were a zombie. The only problem with that scenario is if he and sandroba are both part of a zombie faction why did sandroba nuke him? I guess sandroba could be telling the truth and zombies are just role characteristics and not a faction. The night post seemed to point to the opposite of that tho. Really just nothing GM has done or the reasons he gives for his actions has made any sense whatsoever this game. But I don't see why as mafia he would ever let the nuke hit him and waste his anti nuke on matsza so most likely he is either nonsensical town or zombie. And I am just going to be honest here. I am not going to shoot first but if other people start shooting their nukes today I am going to be a hypocrite and start firing myself. At this point I just want to see the game sped up and to see a bunch of people die and flip. If I shoot my nukes off they will probably be at coag or kurumi. | ||
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On July 09 2011 13:35 heist wrote: Operation Dunkirk activates during the day not during night. And it seems VERY clear who we lynch: Youngminii who lied about his claim. What claim did he lie about? | ||
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On July 07 2011 04:48 youngminii wrote: eh might as well join in i am borenard montgomery of the boeritish empire i had 2 anti nukes total | ||
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So can we nuke YM now? Assuming he flips red unless something ridiculous happens we can lynch sandroba after. | ||
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On July 09 2011 13:48 youngminii wrote: wait how does that make me a liar You claimed to be the same person as chaos lol. | ||
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On July 09 2011 13:51 youngminii wrote: that's not true he's borenard montsnoozery i'm borenard montgomery do you REALLY think that it just coincidence huh wtf? All the fake names are based on real military leaders. Yours/chaos is based on bernard montgomery. Feel free to show me a british leader that boernard montsnoozery is based on. | ||
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I hope the rest of the town checks this asap so we can nuke you soon. | ||
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Also if anyone else is a day vig like chaos was please claim and kill YM. Would save us from having to raise the radiation level. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:00 youngminii wrote: maaaaaaaaaaaaaan this is a terrible scenario for me i assure you i'm a townie though Quick come up with some other lie to claim haha. I really am laughing so hard. I can't get over what a good fake claim it was and then the odds that BM would be used in the game and THEN he was the first person killed by the mafia. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:03 heist wrote: When did YM save sandroba? Who nuked sandroba? I believe matsza nuked san and YM claimed sending an anit nuke saving him. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:21 youngminii wrote: nah i call bullshit why is chaos's role PM plastered all over his death post that's like, DESIGNED to frame me or something rofl could you come up with a more implausible scenario. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:26 youngminii wrote: y'all gonna eat your words when i flip town What words are we going to eat exactly? What possible scenario could make it so you and chaos were the same person? | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:29 heist wrote: I really do feel like we should all roleclaim just to find contradictions. Only role names, nothing else. No one pro-town should lie and if only scum lie, there will definitely be overlaps. Also no one would take anything said as truth but just find contradictions. I completely agree. I don't see how mafia knowing everyone's role name really helps them. And this gives them a huge chance to fuck it up. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:31 youngminii wrote: idea nuke me so my new british extra life saves me thereby confirming i am town I considered that. But there is always a chance that you are zombie instead of mafia. So I say nuke you once and if you survive we lynch. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:38 youngminii wrote: yeah but i wouldn't have anti'd mataza's missile against me yesterday think about it Sure you would lol. If you are zombie you don't want people knowing you are immune to nukes yet. If you are mafia why lose one of your lives when you can use an anti nuke instead? | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:41 youngminii wrote: why it's already been said that zombies win with town, why would i care if town knows? are you seriously suggesting you'd rather have an extra life then an anti-nuke/extra night hit? although i guess the night hit part is unconfirmable It has been said that zombies win with town by whom exactly? Certainly not caller/ON. Zombies could very easily be a third party that wins on their own for all we know. And how do we even know you shot down matza's nuke? Maybe one of your mafia teammates panicked when they saw it heading towards you and shot it down themselves. You already lied about your leader name there is no reason you couldn't have lied about your anti nukes. | ||
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On July 09 2011 14:51 youngminii wrote: see here's the thing, you're thinking about this with a closed mind if you were to actually accept that there's a possibility that caller's a hateful guy that just want to make us suffer you might just see that some of the stuff i'm saying is making sense clearly you don't remember this thread very well, or you just haven't read all of it - i warned mataza that if he nuked me, i would anti-nuke it, it was completely up to me - if you read the faction lists you'll see that the CCCP and by extension, the zombies, are under ALLIES just think about it for a second without being instantly dismissive Ah ok so we are supposed to protect you based on the argument that caller gave you the same name just to fuck with us. I see. And ok maybe you had anti nukes if you can't use them as night hits (we have no way of confirming that) then they are the exact same as extra lives. So who cares if you use one or the other? And no the CCCP are not all zombies. Sinani was CCCP and he died to a nuke. So the zombies are likely part of several different factions, or sandroba made up his roleclaim about being part of CCCP/being a zombie. | ||
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On July 09 2011 15:00 youngminii wrote: ANYWAY you are right in the part where you said zombies can be among different factions, although i doubt it i'd rather have an anti-nuke than an extra life, dunno about you How exactly do you think sinani died to a nuke if he were a zombie? I agree I would rather have an anti nuke but it isn't by a massive margin. It is still very possible you decided to keep your extra life secret for some reason, since they are still close in value. | ||
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On July 09 2011 15:08 PaqMan wrote: Fuck. I really don't want to nuke him because if he survives everything's going to be batshit-insane WIFOM. And there are certainly better things to lynch imo. Decisions, decisions... Huh nuking makes it simple. We nuke if he survives we lynch. And wtf there are better things to lynch? Do you think we have better candidates to lynch? Really? I mean he claimed the same person as chaos. And his only real defense against it is Caller decided to fuck with us and give people the same names. Which doesn't even really make sense because YMs claim was slightly different from the real name. | ||
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No matter what we must kill YM. He attempted to fake claim the same person as a confirmed townie there shouldn't even be a debate. | ||
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It is a caller game so we are just going to assume caller gave people the same role name? Really. I mean really. You honestly are telling me you think it is more likely for caller to be giving townies the same name than YM was fake roleclaiming? And look we nuke YM if he dies then wonderful we can use the rest of the day to actually scum hunt. If he survives we lynch. I mean we should use our nukes very sparingly but this couldn't be more clear cut. YM was caught in a mafia lie. Don't try and argue he should slide based on Caller theoretically just giving players the same name, which would make 0 sense. | ||
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I mean is there a chance YM is a zombie or has 2 lives? Yes. But we are nuking him in the hopes he just dies from it. And if he does we can use our lynch on another target. | ||
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But the wincon thing and the fact his powers were listed meh it is such strong evidence. So fine I will believe YM for now I suppose. | ||
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I am No Means Yesenhower of BRAHMERICA. Also has kita or wiggles made a useful post yet? I am not sure I have seen them attack a single person yet. | ||
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On July 10 2011 06:21 heist wrote: While we wait, let's play a game. I left a clue as to my leader. Who is it? I promise to reveal something from Caller which I think can really help this town. If you guys really don't want to play and be party poopers and argue thread derailment then I'll be  but I'll reveal anyways. I hoped to save this but with the state of the town. Oh well.gogo reveal | ||
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On July 10 2011 06:54 Kurumi wrote: Paq, what about nuking GGQ and lynching Opz? I thought you were completely anti-nuke? And meh yea I was wrong about YM. Heist what information are you going to reveal? I am going to nuke someone and I just want to hear what that is before I do. | ||
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On July 10 2011 10:41 PaqMan wrote: Dec's either a zombie or Boreritish. lol woops. Found his breadcrumb. This doesn't mean GGQ is Town. But I'm probably wrong. Oh well. This game is a big clusterfuck. For the love of God, Town please lynch Drazerk and Sandroba. I've also been suspicious of Wiggles. And I was right about him the last 2 games. ##Nuke Mr. Wiggles ##Nuke Mig Let the World burn <3 You can nuke 2 people at once? | ||
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On July 10 2011 11:59 PaqMan wrote: Don't do it, it'll be a waste. Your 2nd nuke was a dud? | ||
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On July 10 2011 12:09 PaqMan wrote: God damnit Wiggles. I'm sorry. Huh what are you sorry for? If your nuke is really a dud shouldn't wiggles survive? | ||
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On July 10 2011 12:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Drazerk claims no radiation today, and Caller confirmed, fire away. I'm going to look for who seems most like a conspirator to use my one nuke on. I hope you hit a scum. But look for people who haven't fired a nuke yet. Palmar had no nukes so seems likely the other conspirator doesn't either. I might shoot Coag if I were you. He claimed to have a bunch of nukes and just seems so uncoag to not fire any of them. | ||
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On July 10 2011 12:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote: Coag claimed British leader and wasn't counter-claimed though, didn't he? Ah actually nm that's a good point. Hm not sure who it could be then. | ||
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On July 10 2011 14:15 PaqMan wrote: O hey my missiles didn't go boom. Paq if your missiles were really duds why didn't you confirm that? I could have saved jeejee instead of using my power. | ||
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On July 10 2011 18:10 Kurumi wrote: Yaay, getting nuked just for lulz, I love players out here, I always am ignored and noone gives a fuck what I write -_- I really need to rethink playing in BC's Asylum. I am not going to counter-nuke You Mig, something in my brain still rings. haha kurumi don't take it personally. I listen to what you say. Your posting this game just felt safe to me. Normally you are very outspoken and you attack a lot of different players when you are town. This game you seemed much more reserved and careful to me. You only really have called out coag and 90% of your posts have just been telling everyone not to nuke. If I am wrong and you are town then my bad. | ||
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On July 10 2011 18:27 Kurumi wrote: I am playing like that because for once I did not want to hear "Kurumi was trolling entire game" or "Kurumi was useless" and actually wanted people to read my posts, but fuck that I feel like Chezinu, but ten thousand times dumber because he is amazing and I am not -_- If that is the case and you are town I am sorry. But when you were mafia in PYPI you played similar to this where you flew under the radar much more and didn't draw attention to yourself. So your shift in play style seems very suspicious. | ||
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prplhz is nuking Misder Drazerk is nuking GGQ GGQ is nuking PaqMan PaqMan is nuking Mr Wiggles and Mig I have attempted to redirect the nuke aimed at me to kita. Mig is nuking kurumi Misder is nuking JeeJee Wiggles is nuking Drazerk Opz is nuking Syllogism JeeJee is nuking Zona Zona is nuking JeeJee | ||
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On July 10 2011 18:35 Kurumi wrote: No nuke policy at all was the best one, we would use FoS, not NoS (Nuke of Suspicion) and play this game like all mafia games. My relentless attacks as seen in other games only make me called anti-town and worst town ever in games I play so I decided to drop it.. Guess I am anti-town just because I am Kurumi, sigh. Haha kurumi you make me feel bad. If I could not nuke you now I would! | ||
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Kurumi I don't really know who you should nuke haha. It is hard to say what is best before seeing everyone flip. And half the people alive are already being nuked. I guess if you really want to nuke I would go with Opz/Eiii/prplhz | ||
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If you think I am lying look at these facts. A) How likely is it for a mafia member to use their power to save a townie by redirecting the nuke into the conspirator? B) No one has counter claimed me C) Paqman shot a nuke at me. I am about to either die or prove that I have the power. | ||
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I mean lol first of all why do I need to put suspicion on YM if he is about to die to a nuke? 2nd of all why if I did want to put suspicion on him why did I direct the nuke into palmar instead of another townie? Third if I am mafia why in the world would I want palmar dead? 2/3 of the town wanted him lynched. Just think logically for a second about this and try to come up with a realistic scenario where me saving YM and killing palmar benefits the mafia. | ||
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Misder nuked JeeJee so hopefully he is still alive because he should be clearly town. | ||
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So can we please lynch Kita? | ||
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Focus on who should be lynched right now. And the case against kita is by far the strongest at the moment. | ||
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GM why did you vote for gtrs instead of kita when A) you said you didnt believe his claim and B) the mods have confirmed gtrs wasn't at home the last few days? | ||
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Along with that like I said he has done absolutely nothing for the town and his only response to that is well nobody else has done analysis either. At worst we kill a 3rd party who could join the scum potentially. At best we kill a fake claiming mafia. Unless someone can actually make a case for someone being scummier this seems like a slam dunk. | ||
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On July 11 2011 07:55 ~OpZ~ wrote: Don't believe a role that's all but guaranteed? Are you serious? So are GM's and so are Coag's. So you believe both of them are town? After the YM fiasco I am not going to take anything for granted with role names. And it would be stupid to do so. | ||
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On July 11 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote: I gave relevent information on maginot line...read matazas role. He got powers if I died You gave relevant info but GM gave relevant info about having to pick between 2 leaders and no one has counter claimed him. Makes it seem like he is likely to be town but it is not enough to clear him and this isn't enough to clear you. It is shady that you killed syllo when he had been playing the most pro town all game and was playing very similar to the last game you just played with him where he was town. And you had been fighting with dec all game long yet you chose to nuke syllo the pro town player instead. That being said obviously I think your claim is at least much more credible than Kita's which is why I want him lynched. | ||
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Also you never said how you survived the nuke that hit you. Are you nuke immune? Do you have a certain amount of lives? | ||
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Kita arguing to lynch lurkers who have no posts really doesn't make me feel great about you. I mean do you have no reads on people who are scummy? I mean if we really feel we have a lurker problem we can nuke them. We should use our lynches on the people who are scummy and seem to have nuke protection (you). GM half the players in the game are now dead. The game will probably play out much more normally now, I expect you to put effort in now. Who are you suspicious of? And please don't just say gtrsrs. | ||
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If you are right I guess we probably shouldn't lynch you but pretty confident you are going to be wrong. | ||
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Heist he said read the front page. He could in fact be any brahmerican but I assume he was trying to imply we would know exactly who he was because it was listed on the front page. | ||
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And btw I just got done looking through TAA's posts the last 3 games. I am 90% sure he is scum. He has contributed absolutely nothing this game and done 0 analysis while providing excuses for them. Look at RTM where he actively contributed and was extremely helpful. Then look at mafia XL where he was scum and he posted like he has this game, a ton of one liners and absolutely nothing useful. | ||
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But no you have been just as useless as he has been. And I know you are a good scum hunter if you actually want to be. | ||
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On July 11 2011 11:43 GMarshal wrote: so you are boretish not boreritish? Thats an interesting nationality, I'm not sure its one I'm familiar with. I wonder, are the boretish nuke-proof? Nobody has even mentioned navillus for about 50 pages. Do you think when he is completely flying under the radar he would come in here as mafia and claim british and draw attention to himself? | ||
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On July 11 2011 11:48 heist wrote: For thinking TAA is a much better choice. I can totally see the ocean being part of the game. How. How can you see it being part of the game. You see someone who is supposedly a neutral party yet his only ability damages mafia? And he can choose what side he joins? Why the fuck would he even use his ability if he didn't know which side he was going to join. He claims he used it on GGQ. I know if I was neutral and didn't know which side I was going to join I would keep all my options open by not using my power. | ||
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On July 11 2011 11:49 kitaman27 wrote: Kinda like me with my third party ocean claim? Uh I tried to nuke you and I had already voted for you and said how I was suspicious of you. Quite a bit different than literally navillus name not being mentioned for 50+ pages. | ||
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I don't disbelieve an ocean I disbelieve the powers he is claiming. | ||
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I feel like I am the last person using even the smallest amount of common sense. | ||
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What scummy people have you mentioned? What analysis have you done? Anything whatsoever? | ||
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On July 11 2011 11:58 heist wrote: Framing only has to do with people that die during the night. I can't see it influencing events like the outcome of Pearl Harbor. Besides didn't someone state that the frame (if there was a frame) was an Axis campaign based on the name Marco Polo? I don't think they will have the same campaign options. We have no way of knowing whether it was a role power or a campaign that changed the day post. Don't assume things we don't know. | ||
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Is it not obvious how kita is not actually trying to win or do any scum hunting whatsoever. And is instead trying to just argue and cause fighting? | ||
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Leon Trot-Ze: A cultist that can win with town. VyYEAAHHHHcheslav Molotov: If Trot-ze attempts to convert you he dies | ||
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Heist at worst by lynching kita you hit a 3rd party and more likely you hit a scum. He is the better lynch than TAA. | ||
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Prplhz I am not sure on he has done a lot of really poor things. But it seems almost too bold to be mafia. Eh I will re read his posts before I form a solid opinion of him. | ||
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Nav posted almost a full hour claiming british before caller posted about Eiii dying and hitting Nav. Still tho what you said is possible. But just the fact that he has 2 lives means it is a lot more likely he is telling the truth considering we know the british all got extra lives. But I agree I wouldn't call him confirmed town or anything just very likely town. | ||
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[B]On July 11 2011 12:51 Navillus wrote:[/B Wait do I find out separately if I lost a life? Cause I didn't get a PM or anything. Normally you should receive a pm if you lose a life. | ||
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On July 11 2011 12:58 Ciryandor wrote: So who are our current lynch targets, prplhz and TAA? Nav; I was talking to kita in that post, irresponsibly nuking me just because he wasn't reading the latter part of the thread. Also, you apparently aren't very familiar with the Pacific Theater, Mountbatten was the guy who managed the Burma-India Theater; and his involvement in Europe was in championing the raid on Dieppe. No either kita or TAA will be lynched. Unless someone makes a really damning case for someone else those 2 are going to be the leaders most likely. | ||
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Right now I think kita/TAA are the 2 that are by far the most suspicious. | ||
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On July 11 2011 16:52 TheAwesomeAll wrote: Did you even read my post? Heist pushed for name claims and as a result we are getting our french guy nuked, purely based on name claims. you know what pushing for name claims is? blue fishing, in its purest and simplest form, and it should stop. Did you read any of heist's other posts before nuking him? Nuking just for supporting name claiming is unbelievably weak reasoning to kill someone. I support name claiming as well. You going to nuke me for it? In RTM even though you weren't alive long you provided very good reasoning and scum hunting right away. I was on the mafia team part of the reason we killed you was because you were building good cases and attacking people with convincing arguments constantly. You have done virtually no scum hunting or analysis this game. You have basically been useless to town. After kita you should be lynched asap. | ||
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And I don't think they would use one to try and frame him considering he is already the main leader to be lynched anyway. | ||
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But fine I will try ##nuke: Kitaman27 If GM/Navillus/Curu/Coag see this in time also try and nuke kita please. Because I am not sure if mine will count. | ||
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On July 11 2011 12:19 Caller wrote: 22:45 and 23:18. The times when Kitaman27 and Ciyandor finish their round of mutually assured destruction. Also, Eiii died, desperately asking for forgiveness in the words of "can you have my death not involve castration or violating my anus." His wish was granted, as instead the missile's force burst through the door of the room he was in in such a precise angle that he basically had a nuclear powered penectomy, shortly before he was incinerated by the spilling alcohol everywhere. The alcohol ALMOST killed Navilus. ~OpZ~ I'm not counting your nukes you already fired today Also some other people are going to die in a few hours, but they're not important ^^ This is what caller posted last night. So gogo nuke kita, | ||
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If kita dies who do you plan on voting for and why? | ||
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I can't decide if GM is just so apathetic that he is playing badly or if he is playing this way because he is scum. I mean last WaW town got completely raped even with some sickos like L and RoL on town. I would think you would be motivated to try and show town can win in this setup. | ||
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Navillus/decuondo are both alive and claimed british. | ||
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Confirmed Dead British YM Chaos Misder Claiming British TAA Draz Navillus Coag Decuondo | ||
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TAA pbp will just be a huge cluttered waste. Writing out a huge pbp analysis is usually ignored and useless. Find some major points and analyze them to discuss why GM is mafia or innocent. Talk about scummy actions, pushing mafia objective, talk about what his motivations this game have been. Analyzing someone post by post will just be nit picking and finding contradictions (townies contradict themselves all the time this is not auto scum tell) so you need to analyze his overall play and what he has done this game. | ||
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However how do you explain him saving mataza early on? And what do you think about his chinese leader claim? So | ||
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And I have stated my analysis of why I think he is scum twice. | ||
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I have 2 nukes left but I already shot kurumi today so I don't believe I am allowed to shoot again. Otherwise believe me I would. | ||
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1) TAA claims british 2) TAA then also claims vet giving him 3 lives. TAA then "tries" to nuke himself to prove that he is telling the truth since he doesn't need 3 lives but he put the command in wrong so the nuke never fired. 3) TAA then is nuked by heist and survived. 4) I now want to fire 1 more nuke at TAA just to try and see whether he was lying or not about having 3 lives. TAA was gunho about being nuked earlier so he could prove that he was telling the truth and get town cred. But now that I have proposed the same plan TAA had earlier he is completely against it. Conclusion - TAA is a scum veteran with 2 lives. He was fine with losing 1 life earlier to buy town cred but now that he has been nuked once he knows he will die if shot again. | ||
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And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him? And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people. And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him. | ||
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Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita. And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point. | ||
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On July 10 2011 10:30 Mig wrote: Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet. I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas. And you really still think I am scum. Amazing. | ||
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You can't just assume the entire mafia team is nuke immune. Just like we had a campaign giving british extra lives. Their campaign could have done the same for some of them or some of them could have been veterans. I am not just going to assume half the scum team has 5 lives or is nuke immune. | ||
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Ok so if kita dies to nuke lynch TAA if he survives lynch kita. Easy enough. | ||
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On July 12 2011 07:10 prplhz wrote: I'm honestly confused about who to vote for but after hitting 2 scum last night I don't think we're gonna be a lylo soon so it's not imperative that we hit scum and I don't think that there are any clear reads on scum right now. What about gtrstsr, he hasn't been around whole game because his house burned down. If this is true, why hasn't he been modkilled or replaced? It just looks like an excuse to me to lurk and I don't like that one bit no matter if he is scum or town. What do you guys think about gstrsr? This is honestly ridiculous. You have no clear reads on scum right now? Really????? And it isn't imperative that we hit scum I see. Maybe we should lynch you instead of TAA. | ||
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On July 12 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote: lol I applaud this decision Hey Mig, maybe you should redirect a couple more at me! Rofl :p | ||
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On July 12 2011 08:10 kitaman27 wrote: Don't hold your breathe. Wait, actually could you? gggggggggggg | ||
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Coag/draz opinions? | ||
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If decon is anything but scum town is in real bad shape. I guess just kill kita kill TAA/decon and hope for the best. If GM/prpl/other are scum there is very little hope for town. I tried my best. GG guys. | ||
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I am just happy in the end kita ended up dead :p | ||
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Btw the mistake caller mentioned. I am pretty sure day 1 TAA should have been lynched instead of sandroba. TAA reached 3 votes first. That would have been pretty sick for town as well. | ||
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On July 13 2011 00:28 Kurumi wrote: Sandroba reached 3 votes first because third vote on TAA was Palmar's vote at the end of the day. Oh ok nm about what I said then haha. What was caller's mistake then? | ||
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Curu your fake claim was good. When you first said oppenheimer I was like huh the only non military leader in the game? But then its like eh invented nukes whatever could be in there and just sort of dismissed it. | ||
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A) when you accuse someone a lot of it just looks like arguing and tunneling instead of being a well thought out/written case so many people will dismiss what you say off hand. B) you had absolutely no town cred to give your argument weight. You had lurked (whether you were busy irl or not doesn't matter) the entire game then you appear attack dec then randomly nuke syllo who was extremely pro town just because he voted for you, even tho you had been fighting with dec all game. Even if you make a good case against someone if the town doesn't trust you it's going to fall on deaf ears. | ||
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Convincing town of your innocence with just your posting is an extremely undervalued skill for town players in mafia. It is so so so important. | ||
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