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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 04 2011 09:10 GMT
#103
/in if room
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 10:22 GMT
#190
I agree with sandroba's plan. The best thing about sandroba's plan is that it eliminates mafia's kp with their nukes while allowing town to still take advantage of their nuke kp. Anyone who nukes without the town agreeing on it is lynched which prevents mafia from killing someone then being like eh I thought they were scummy. But the town can still vote and use its kp.

Along with that how do we usually get most of our information in mafia games? Lynch results. Sandroba's plan forces everyone to vote twice for every day cycle. This will give us a huge amount of additional information compared to a normal game.

People should get over wanting to be the lone ranger trying to single handedly pick out and eliminate the scum team. Realize we need to work as a team, if you think someone is especially scummy then put the effort in to write up a case and argue against them.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 10:24 GMT
#191
Palmar your argument is useless and 95% spam. I am sure repeating don't be an idiot 20 times will prevent people from just randomly using their nukes terribly.

We are playing a game where every person is a Vig the town badly needs structure. Everyone trying to play their own game just leads to a blood bath.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 10:27 GMT
#192
Seriously just imagine a normal game where town was able to lynch twice a day. It would be overwhelmingly town favored. The only real problem I see with sandroba's plan is people just going nuts and nuking everyone if they are voted for. But that same issue is going to come up with regular lynches anyway.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 10:50 GMT
#197
So just to repeat the benefits of sandroba's plan

1) Mafia nuke kp is completely eliminated except for trying to influence the vote.

2) We get a massive amount of extra information. We really don't learn much by having 10 different people all trying to snipe the mafia by themselves. This way it forces people to actually argue and discuss who the scum are and with the additional voting we will be able to see more clear patterns and connections between people to find the scum.

3) Mafia wants townies to play by their emotions and to just go nuts and shoot each other anytime there is an argument or kill the first person who accuses them of being scum. This way the town kp is used with structure to eliminate who the town collectively feels is the most scummy player everyday. It forces the town to work together as a team instead of having 30 people all playing by themselves.

And honestly people just imagine any normal game where the town could hold 2 separate lynches a day for every 1 night. It would be incredibly strong for the town. Much much stronger than having a bunch of vigs running around doing whatever they each think is best.

Also as soon as I can I am going to vote palmar. Your reasoning against sandroba's plan is incredibly bad and filled with spam. The plan does not take away control from townies it takes control from the mafia. We severely reduce their kp as long as they aren't completely influencing the votes.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:13 GMT
#207
Heist did you read sandroba's plan? We lynch people who fire their nukes on their own. We don't nuke them.

And seriously people it doesn't matter how many nukes mafia has. Mafia could have 5000 nukes but if they fire any of them they get lynched. This is why the mafia's kp is crippled. So who cares if they claim to have 3 or 0 or don't use them. It just doesn't really matter as long as we kill anyone who fires without the town voting on it.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:17 GMT
#210
I mean lets say worst case scenario the top 10 people are all town or something so no mafia ever had their nukes used. How exactly would that be different from everyone getting to use their nukes at their own discretion? Obviously mafia are never going to use their nukes in a pro town way regardless so at least this we are actually working together and putting some direction behind our hits instead of everyone randomly firing.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:19 GMT
#214
On July 05 2011 20:17 heist wrote:
If we are having 2 lynches, one by nuke and one standard per day, and if all renegade nukers are to be lynched... then thats pretty much nuking any renegade nukers. It doesn't really matter which of the two you nuke, the renegade nuker or the top vote from town. It's the same thing since the renegade nuker will be forced onto a lynch spot.



We can either follow sandroba's plan and nuke 1 person a day. Or everyone can play by their own discretion and nuke whenever they want. Which way do you think is going to lead to more people nuked?

Sandroba's plan will make it less likely that we reach the radiation limit not make it more likely.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:22 GMT
#218
Palmar I pray that you actually have no nukes. Do you honestly think you are more likely to hit scum working completely by yourself than with the town working together?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 11:35 GMT
#224
Palmar yes it would be unfortunate if there were some great scum hunter who was shitty at arguing and couldn't get his point across but at the same time we are preventing all the people who are shitty scum hunters from firing randomly into the town.

You are basically arguing it is better for everyone to work alone instead of as a team, which cannot possibly be correct.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 19:09 GMT
#358
##Dunkirk Operation

This shouldn't even be debated really. Townies get extra lives even from nukes. And if we use sandroba's plan then it really doesn't matter that much how many nukes mafia has.

Also I would prefer we not double lynch today since most day 1 lynches are wrong anyway. But starting day 2 I fully support the sandroba/gm plan with the 40% voters needed.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 22:57 GMT
#387
Can we lynch palmar yet?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 05 2011 22:59 GMT
#388
On July 06 2011 07:51 Palmar wrote:
I think Kurumi's scum.

He's being nice, that's a scumtell for him.


I do agree with this tho.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 06:05 GMT
#457
I am going to vote palmar and give my reasons as soon as I get home, within next couple hours. On phone so hard to type a long message atm.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 07:49 GMT
#471
Are you sure the nuke isn't going to land palmar?

Can any hosts clarify for us?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 09:36 GMT
#499
I want to find out whether matza's nuke has actually been fired or not. If it hasn't I would lynch him just to keep it from firing. If it has then I want to lynch palmar, and then kill matza tomorrow.

I agree with pretty much everything sandroba said, palmar's play has been ridiculously scummy. His reasoning against sandroba's pro town plan was horrible and filled with spam. He wrote up a plan which basically just said shoot scum and don't play stupid. It was pure useless spam made to look pro town.

So I am going to vote for palmar for now unless I find out that matza's nuke has not been launched. And either way I want both players dead by the end of tomorrow.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 10:30 GMT
#516
I normally disagree with policy lynches but in this case policy lynch is an absolute must because like draz says it prevents mafia from using their kp. So kill matz and kill palmar. I don't have a huge preference either way for the order but both should die.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 19:22 GMT
#886
Hey palmar this is why you don't trust the town to not be a bunch of idiots. If you give everyone a gun it turns them into retards. I just hope there is enough townies left after all these land for us to try and salvage this clusterfuck.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:16 GMT
#999
I seriously hate everyone. Especially sinani/sandroba/gm/palmar.

You know a game is completely screwed when fucking kurumi is the voice of reason.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:18 GMT
#1003
On July 07 2011 05:17 GMarshal wrote:
I didn't nuke anyone. I said "kill everyone who nukes" then sandroba shot a nuke at me.

What do you want from me?


But you plan on nuking some random lurker yes?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:20 GMT
#1009
syllo how is that role powerful? And why the fuck do we care about it at all? He has no kp and he doesn't care which side wins. Just let him sit there.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:27 GMT
#1024
Oh my bad I completely missed night phase was skipped. GM if you aren't going to save yourself then shoot draz. It is easily the best thing for the town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:36 GMT
#1036
GM sandrobas nuke hits you at 15:10
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:38 GMT
#1039
Are you going to shoot draz or someone else?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:41 GMT
#1046
Then shoot draz. At least with your dying action you would have done something to actually help the town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:43 GMT
#1053
Btw I agree now that YM is likely town. If YM/san were both scum why would YM announce in the thread that he was using his anti missles to save san? He would have just done it anonymously instead of creating a link between them. San could still be scum but I doubt both are.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:44 GMT
#1056
On July 07 2011 05:42 Cthsazsa wrote:

Why the hell would you shoot the monk


If he dies there is no night phase so no night mafia kills.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 20:45 GMT
#1059
On July 07 2011 05:43 GMarshal wrote:

I dislike the implication that me coming up with and trying to enforce a plan was not helping the town.

Again I don't know what I'm doing with my nuke, but as far as operations go, everyone change to the one that stops us from nuking. Lets not have a repeat of this tomorrow.


No I am saying shooting some random lurker isn't going to help town much but kill draz will help the town in a big way.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 23:30 GMT
#1187
Why the fuck is everyone asking for GM to use it on them to confirm them as townies? I mean let me get this straight GM theoretically has a power that destroys a nuke and reveals alignment and people want him to use this power on you if you are town. Are you serious?

Pick someone who is scummy and use it on them. Use some common sense people.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 23:36 GMT
#1194
On July 07 2011 08:33 GMarshal wrote:

Oh, good someone with a good thought. In an imaginary world such as the one I'm picturing that sounds like a brilliant plan. Imagine if you had this power, who would you subject to it?


GGQ/Kita/Wiggles - GGQ/Kita are both far less active than normal and Wiggles play feels somewhat like last games to me. I would probably prefer GGQ/Kita since they both have almost no posts.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 06 2011 23:48 GMT
#1207
Isn't there a nuke heading towards JeeJee from sinani right now? Why bother checking him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 07 2011 13:01 GMT
#1417
Maybe everyone who has claimed to be nuke immune is part of a third zombie faction? Who has claimed nuke immunity? Sandroba?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 07 2011 13:15 GMT
#1424
Matza like 10 nukes were launched solely because of you. You can't exactly be upset at dying.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 07 2011 13:23 GMT
#1429
On July 07 2011 22:18 Mataza wrote:
Oh yes I can, because I was killed by underhanded hidden abilities.
A sneak attack, an unstoppable nuke or something else that wasn´t apprent from things in the thread.

You only got my hopes up to crush them again. Fuck you.


You shouldn't have had any hopes of surviving once you launched your first nuke after every person in the thread had talked at length about not nuking unless the town agreed on it (btw I didn't kill you and don't know how you died).
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 07 2011 13:26 GMT
#1431
On July 07 2011 22:24 GMarshal wrote:
Wait... what?

I had 1 extra life at the start of the game... then palmar nuked me. I got no PMs after that saying I lost the life, but I assumed I had, because thats what missiles do. I just got nuked now and notified I lost my extra life... also apparently the countermissile I shot didn't go off because its "shoddy Chinese equipment". Goddamnit, what that hell is going on, why did palmar's missile earlier not take my extra life away? Did someone do something?

Mt head hurts now.


Players may continue to use missiles even if they do not have any nukes left but the missiles will not do any damage.

From the OP
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 07 2011 21:20 GMT
#1488
When does night end?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 02:51 GMT
#1651
On July 09 2011 09:57 GGQ wrote:

So I called out three players earlier, I'm still leery on deconduo but Mig seems pretty straight up to me nowadays. My main suspicion now is Cthsaza/Paqman who I would like to promote as a primary lynch target for the next cycle (as soon as Caller deigns to honour us with a day post). I'll write an analysis later is no one else is convinced just by me mentioning his name.


I have posted like twice in the last 50 hours, what could I have possibly said to make you less suspicious?

Syllo said I haven't scum hunted like I normally do which is 100% accurate. I have no real reason for this other than lack of effort.

I don't believe a word GM says. I don't believe he is mafia. But I think the most likely scenario by far for him is that he is a zombie. It makes no sense for him to save matza instead of himself and the "confusion" with his night lives makes little sense. Everything makes a ton more sense if he were a zombie. The only problem with that scenario is if he and sandroba are both part of a zombie faction why did sandroba nuke him? I guess sandroba could be telling the truth and zombies are just role characteristics and not a faction. The night post seemed to point to the opposite of that tho.

Really just nothing GM has done or the reasons he gives for his actions has made any sense whatsoever this game. But I don't see why as mafia he would ever let the nuke hit him and waste his anti nuke on matsza so most likely he is either nonsensical town or zombie.

And I am just going to be honest here. I am not going to shoot first but if other people start shooting their nukes today I am going to be a hypocrite and start firing myself. At this point I just want to see the game sped up and to see a bunch of people die and flip. If I shoot my nukes off they will probably be at coag or kurumi.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:36 GMT
#1665
On July 09 2011 13:35 heist wrote:
Operation Dunkirk activates during the day not during night. And it seems VERY clear who we lynch: Youngminii who lied about his claim.


What claim did he lie about?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:45 GMT
#1668
On July 07 2011 04:48 youngminii wrote:
eh might as well join in

i am borenard montgomery of the boeritish empire
i had 2 anti nukes total

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:46 GMT
#1669
That is pretty much the worst luck ever lolololol. I am seriously laughing out loud right now.

So can we nuke YM now? Assuming he flips red unless something ridiculous happens we can lynch sandroba after.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:48 GMT
#1673
Because if he flips red then we can lynch sandroba since he saved sandroba. So we have the chance to kill 2 scum today. I mean if we are ever going to use our nukes we should use it now lol. This couldn't be any clearer.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:49 GMT
#1674
On July 09 2011 13:48 youngminii wrote:
wait how does that make me a liar


You claimed to be the same person as chaos lol.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:53 GMT
#1677
On July 09 2011 13:51 youngminii wrote:
that's not true
he's borenard montsnoozery
i'm borenard montgomery

do you REALLY think that it just coincidence


huh wtf? All the fake names are based on real military leaders. Yours/chaos is based on bernard montgomery. Feel free to show me a british leader that boernard montsnoozery is based on.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:55 GMT
#1680
YM you might as well not even bother because honestly unless caller/ON made some huge mistake and gave you guys the same name you clearly made yours up lol. It is really unimaginably unlucky that you chose the same name as the guy who died right after.

I hope the rest of the town checks this asap so we can nuke you soon.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 04:56 GMT
#1681
This should really really emphasize the point to everyone that you can't believe anyone's roleclaim.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:01 GMT
#1683
Oh also another point for why nuke is way better than lynch here. This case is so blatantly obvious that if we lynch him today no scum hunting will get done. So we can actually get some work done if YM dies soon.

Also if anyone else is a day vig like chaos was please claim and kill YM. Would save us from having to raise the radiation level.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:05 GMT
#1687
On July 09 2011 14:00 youngminii wrote:
maaaaaaaaaaaaaan this is a terrible scenario for me
i assure you i'm a townie though


Quick come up with some other lie to claim haha.

I really am laughing so hard. I can't get over what a good fake claim it was and then the odds that BM would be used in the game and THEN he was the first person killed by the mafia.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:06 GMT
#1688
On July 09 2011 14:03 heist wrote:
When did YM save sandroba? Who nuked sandroba?


I believe matsza nuked san and YM claimed sending an anit nuke saving him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:09 GMT
#1691
I hope YM is sunshine hitler
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:16 GMT
#1694
I would add someone else saved YM as well by redirecting the nuke going at him to palmar. Could have been a townie but its probably more likely to have been mafia.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:22 GMT
#1699
Yea I wondered the same heist. I would just guess chaos just missed it. It actually makes me wonder what do people think about everyone role claiming their leader? There are only so many military leaders people can pick from for each country. We may run into more people who fuck up their claims.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:23 GMT
#1700
On July 09 2011 14:21 youngminii wrote:
nah i call bullshit

why is chaos's role PM plastered all over his death post
that's like, DESIGNED to frame me or something


rofl could you come up with a more implausible scenario.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:28 GMT
#1704
On July 09 2011 14:26 youngminii wrote:
y'all gonna eat your words when i flip town


What words are we going to eat exactly? What possible scenario could make it so you and chaos were the same person?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:30 GMT
#1707
On July 09 2011 14:29 heist wrote:
I really do feel like we should all roleclaim just to find contradictions. Only role names, nothing else.
No one pro-town should lie and if only scum lie, there will definitely be overlaps. Also no one would take anything said as truth but just find contradictions.


I completely agree. I don't see how mafia knowing everyone's role name really helps them. And this gives them a huge chance to fuck it up.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:35 GMT
#1711
On July 09 2011 14:31 youngminii wrote:
idea

nuke me so my new british extra life saves me thereby confirming i am town


I considered that. But there is always a chance that you are zombie instead of mafia. So I say nuke you once and if you survive we lynch.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:36 GMT
#1712
Or you could even be mafia with extra lives. So wouldn't really confirm anything.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:39 GMT
#1714
On July 09 2011 14:38 youngminii wrote:
yeah but i wouldn't have anti'd mataza's missile against me yesterday
think about it


Sure you would lol. If you are zombie you don't want people knowing you are immune to nukes yet. If you are mafia why lose one of your lives when you can use an anti nuke instead?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:44 GMT
#1716
On July 09 2011 14:41 youngminii wrote:
why

it's already been said that zombies win with town, why would i care if town knows?

are you seriously suggesting you'd rather have an extra life then an anti-nuke/extra night hit? although i guess the night hit part is unconfirmable


It has been said that zombies win with town by whom exactly? Certainly not caller/ON. Zombies could very easily be a third party that wins on their own for all we know.

And how do we even know you shot down matza's nuke? Maybe one of your mafia teammates panicked when they saw it heading towards you and shot it down themselves. You already lied about your leader name there is no reason you couldn't have lied about your anti nukes.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 05:55 GMT
#1718
On July 09 2011 14:51 youngminii wrote:


see here's the thing, you're thinking about this with a closed mind
if you were to actually accept that there's a possibility that caller's a hateful guy that just want to make us suffer you might just see that some of the stuff i'm saying is making sense

clearly you don't remember this thread very well, or you just haven't read all of it

- i warned mataza that if he nuked me, i would anti-nuke it, it was completely up to me
- if you read the faction lists you'll see that the CCCP and by extension, the zombies, are under ALLIES

just think about it for a second without being instantly dismissive


Ah ok so we are supposed to protect you based on the argument that caller gave you the same name just to fuck with us. I see.

And ok maybe you had anti nukes if you can't use them as night hits (we have no way of confirming that) then they are the exact same as extra lives. So who cares if you use one or the other?

And no the CCCP are not all zombies. Sinani was CCCP and he died to a nuke. So the zombies are likely part of several different factions, or sandroba made up his roleclaim about being part of CCCP/being a zombie.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:04 GMT
#1720
On July 09 2011 15:00 youngminii wrote:

ANYWAY you are right in the part where you said zombies can be among different factions, although i doubt it

i'd rather have an anti-nuke than an extra life, dunno about you


How exactly do you think sinani died to a nuke if he were a zombie?

I agree I would rather have an anti nuke but it isn't by a massive margin. It is still very possible you decided to keep your extra life secret for some reason, since they are still close in value.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:12 GMT
#1724
On July 09 2011 15:08 PaqMan wrote:
Fuck. I really don't want to nuke him because if he survives everything's going to be batshit-insane WIFOM.
And there are certainly better things to lynch imo.

Decisions, decisions...


Huh nuking makes it simple. We nuke if he survives we lynch.

And wtf there are better things to lynch? Do you think we have better candidates to lynch? Really? I mean he claimed the same person as chaos. And his only real defense against it is Caller decided to fuck with us and give people the same names. Which doesn't even really make sense because YMs claim was slightly different from the real name.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:28 GMT
#1730
Sandroba if YM flips red why do you think he saved you with his anti nuke?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:31 GMT
#1733
There is NOBODY better to lynch. Use some common sense my god.

No matter what we must kill YM. He attempted to fake claim the same person as a confirmed townie there shouldn't even be a debate.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:33 GMT
#1735
And I would have waited for more people to give their input but I don't really care that much that sandroba nuked him. If he survives the nuke we will lynch him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:38 GMT
#1739
.......................................................................................

It is a caller game so we are just going to assume caller gave people the same role name? Really. I mean really. You honestly are telling me you think it is more likely for caller to be giving townies the same name than YM was fake roleclaiming?

And look we nuke YM if he dies then wonderful we can use the rest of the day to actually scum hunt. If he survives we lynch. I mean we should use our nukes very sparingly but this couldn't be more clear cut. YM was caught in a mafia lie. Don't try and argue he should slide based on Caller theoretically just giving players the same name, which would make 0 sense.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:46 GMT
#1745
I mean I guess you can argue we shouldn't nuke anyone paq. But I would disagree with you. We can take the risk of raising the radiation level and kill people that are pretty much confirmed to have fake claimed to further anti town goals.

I mean is there a chance YM is a zombie or has 2 lives? Yes. But we are nuking him in the hopes he just dies from it. And if he does we can use our lynch on another target.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 06:54 GMT
#1750
Paq is Cthsazsa. He got a name change.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 11:14 GMT
#1784
Yea it is very suspicious that mafia didn't kill coag. He claimed to have a lot of nukes and be borish so they would know he was going to gain an extra life the next day. He also refused to say his leader name before.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 20:07 GMT
#2007
What the fuckkkkk. When there is a simple answer or a complex answer for something like YM's role claim 99% of the time the simple answer is going to be right. Look at PTP when wiggles and GM were basically caught they both came up with a ton of ridiculous elaborate scenarios to try and save themselves. Now we have to believe the mafia's campaign allowed them to re write the death post? Isn't that such a stretch.

But the wincon thing and the fact his powers were listed meh it is such strong evidence. So fine I will believe YM for now I suppose.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 20:09 GMT
#2012
I fully support everyone claiming their name btw.

I am No Means Yesenhower of BRAHMERICA.

Also has kita or wiggles made a useful post yet? I am not sure I have seen them attack a single person yet.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 20:10 GMT
#2014
Wait why did YM die? I thought he had an extra life.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 20:17 GMT
#2018
I don't understand why he died tho? I thought extra lives made it so you survived nuclear blasts. Shouldn't YM have gotten an extra life with our last operation?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 20:39 GMT
#2028
Well one thing we can learn from this. The person who redirected the nuke that was heading at YM to Palmar is pretty much guaranteed town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 21:30 GMT
#2057
On July 10 2011 06:21 heist wrote:
While we wait, let's play a game.

I left a clue as to my leader. Who is it?

I promise to reveal something from Caller which I think can really help this town.

If you guys really don't want to play and be party poopers and argue thread derailment then I'll be but I'll reveal anyways. I hoped to save this but with the state of the town. Oh well.


gogo reveal
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 09 2011 21:58 GMT
#2067
On July 10 2011 06:54 Kurumi wrote:
Paq, what about nuking GGQ and lynching Opz?


I thought you were completely anti-nuke?

And meh yea I was wrong about YM.

Heist what information are you going to reveal? I am going to nuke someone and I just want to hear what that is before I do.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 01:30 GMT
#2144
Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 01:54 GMT
#2148
On July 10 2011 10:41 PaqMan wrote:
Dec's either a zombie or Boreritish.

Show nested quote +
On July 07 2011 14:27 GGQ wrote:
I'm gonna switch to Palmar since sandroba isn't getting lynched.

It's gonna be hard to have an opinion until the dust clears tomorrow. Right now this town couldn't find it's own ass with a compass.


lol woops. Found his breadcrumb.

This doesn't mean GGQ is Town. But I'm probably wrong.
Oh well. This game is a big clusterfuck.

For the love of God, Town please lynch Drazerk and Sandroba.
I've also been suspicious of Wiggles. And I was right about him the last 2 games.

##Nuke Mr. Wiggles
##Nuke Mig


Let the World burn <3


You can nuke 2 people at once?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 02:03 GMT
#2152
I just want to know if paq can actually fire 2 nukes at once.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 02:13 GMT
#2156
##Nuke Kurumi
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 02:56 GMT
#2178
Ok since you can fire I might as well claim. I was the one who saved YM day 1 and moved the nuke at palmar. So I am about as confirmed as you are going to get this game unless you think the mafia saved a townie to try and kill the conspirator. So I should be able to save myself from Paq's nuke.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:00 GMT
#2181
On July 10 2011 11:59 PaqMan wrote:

Don't do it, it'll be a waste.


Your 2nd nuke was a dud?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:02 GMT
#2184
Ah if I can't move it then I hate you paq.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:06 GMT
#2190
Yea I am confused still Paq. Are your missiles unstoppable or duds? And even if they are unstoppable maybe they can still be redirected since they aren't destroyed or anything.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:09 GMT
#2197
On July 10 2011 12:09 PaqMan wrote:
God damnit Wiggles.
I'm sorry.


Huh what are you sorry for? If your nuke is really a dud shouldn't wiggles survive?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:12 GMT
#2202
Then you should be saying sorry to me Paq. I have an ability which was incredibly powerful for town. Wiggles is just another 3rd party.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:13 GMT
#2204
I mean it doesn't matter I guess, either my power is going to work or you managed to kill a townie and 3rd party who wanted to help town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:17 GMT
#2209
Well I am going to use my power to try and save myself if possible. I don't know 100% that GGQ or wiggles is town although they both look town at this point. I know for a fact that I am town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:24 GMT
#2213
On July 10 2011 12:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Drazerk claims no radiation today, and Caller confirmed, fire away. I'm going to look for who seems most like a conspirator to use my one nuke on.


I hope you hit a scum. But look for people who haven't fired a nuke yet. Palmar had no nukes so seems likely the other conspirator doesn't either. I might shoot Coag if I were you. He claimed to have a bunch of nukes and just seems so uncoag to not fire any of them.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:31 GMT
#2215
On July 10 2011 12:26 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 10 2011 12:24 Mig wrote:
On July 10 2011 12:21 Mr. Wiggles wrote:

Drazerk claims no radiation today, and Caller confirmed, fire away. I'm going to look for who seems most like a conspirator to use my one nuke on.


I hope you hit a scum. But look for people who haven't fired a nuke yet. Palmar had no nukes so seems likely the other conspirator doesn't either. I might shoot Coag if I were you. He claimed to have a bunch of nukes and just seems so uncoag to not fire any of them.


Coag claimed British leader and wasn't counter-claimed though, didn't he?


Ah actually nm that's a good point. Hm not sure who it could be then.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:42 GMT
#2221
I changed the nuke to palmar. And yea YM said it was a dud.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 03:46 GMT
#2223
Yea I sent it in. No word back on if it will work.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 04:03 GMT
#2229
Kitaman
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 05:13 GMT
#2265
This game is ridiculous lol.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 05:31 GMT
#2273
On July 10 2011 14:15 PaqMan wrote:
O hey my missiles didn't go boom.


Paq if your missiles were really duds why didn't you confirm that? I could have saved jeejee instead of using my power.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 05:33 GMT
#2275
k probably just late then I guess.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 07:57 GMT
#2289
They have both claimed nuke immunity zona. So they shouldn't even care if you nuke them.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 09:23 GMT
#2302
On July 10 2011 18:10 Kurumi wrote:
Yaay, getting nuked just for lulz, I love players out here, I always am ignored and noone gives a fuck what I write -_- I really need to rethink playing in BC's Asylum.
I am not going to counter-nuke You Mig, something in my brain still rings.


haha kurumi don't take it personally. I listen to what you say. Your posting this game just felt safe to me. Normally you are very outspoken and you attack a lot of different players when you are town. This game you seemed much more reserved and careful to me. You only really have called out coag and 90% of your posts have just been telling everyone not to nuke. If I am wrong and you are town then my bad.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 09:32 GMT
#2304
On July 10 2011 18:27 Kurumi wrote:

I am playing like that because for once I did not want to hear "Kurumi was trolling entire game" or "Kurumi was useless" and actually wanted people to read my posts, but fuck that I feel like Chezinu, but ten thousand times dumber because he is amazing and I am not -_-


If that is the case and you are town I am sorry. But when you were mafia in PYPI you played similar to this where you flew under the radar much more and didn't draw attention to yourself. So your shift in play style seems very suspicious.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 09:39 GMT
#2307
I will just list all the people who are being nuked for convenience's sake.

prplhz is nuking Misder

Drazerk is nuking GGQ

GGQ is nuking PaqMan

PaqMan is nuking Mr Wiggles and Mig

I have attempted to redirect the nuke aimed at me to kita.

Mig is nuking kurumi

Misder is nuking JeeJee

Wiggles is nuking Drazerk

Opz is nuking Syllogism

JeeJee is nuking Zona

Zona is nuking JeeJee
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 09:42 GMT
#2309
On July 10 2011 18:35 Kurumi wrote:
No nuke policy at all was the best one, we would use FoS, not NoS (Nuke of Suspicion) and play this game like all mafia games. My relentless attacks as seen in other games only make me called anti-town and worst town ever in games I play so I decided to drop it.. Guess I am anti-town just because I am Kurumi, sigh.


Haha kurumi you make me feel bad. If I could not nuke you now I would!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 09:54 GMT
#2312
Syllo you did seem the most likely to be town to me. What do you think about opz's defense and then him nuking you? Would you still lynch him? Also what are your thoughts on everyone trying to jump on lynching sandroba now.

Kurumi I don't really know who you should nuke haha. It is hard to say what is best before seeing everyone flip. And half the people alive are already being nuked. I guess if you really want to nuke I would go with Opz/Eiii/prplhz
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 10:31 GMT
#2319
Yes
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 10:38 GMT
#2321
Because my power is really strong and if mafia was going to try and snipe whoever had it at night they probably wouldn't hit me after I said that...... Should be obvious. I didn't intend on ever claiming my power unless someone shot a nuke at me and I was forced to use it to save myself.

If you think I am lying look at these facts.

A) How likely is it for a mafia member to use their power to save a townie by redirecting the nuke into the conspirator?

B) No one has counter claimed me

C) Paqman shot a nuke at me. I am about to either die or prove that I have the power.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 10:50 GMT
#2325
Yes I thought Mataza would get lynched that is why I directed it at palmar.

I mean lol first of all why do I need to put suspicion on YM if he is about to die to a nuke? 2nd of all why if I did want to put suspicion on him why did I direct the nuke into palmar instead of another townie? Third if I am mafia why in the world would I want palmar dead? 2/3 of the town wanted him lynched.

Just think logically for a second about this and try to come up with a realistic scenario where me saving YM and killing palmar benefits the mafia.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 10:54 GMT
#2327
It should be blatantly obvious that my use of the power day 1 does say a lot about my alignment.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 10:57 GMT
#2328
Syllo lol. If I am mafia and I know the top 2 lynch candidates are both not mafia then I want one of them alive. Because then after they lynch palmar town will likely waste the next day lynching mataza. I mean why in the world would I save YM and eliminate one of the major focuses for the town to have another mislynch. it just makes absolutely no sense for mafia.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 11:08 GMT
#2332
Huh why? I can use the power every day. At the time I thought YM was town. So why shouldn't I use my power to save him? And like I said at the time I used my power I thought there was a good chance mataza was going to be lynched instead of palmar. I don't really see any downsides for me to save someone I thought was town and send the nuke at someone who I was extremely suspicious of, regardless of whether he was going to be lynched or not.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 16:51 GMT
#2400
Bam kurumi! Trying to make me feel guilty you dirty bastard!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 16:54 GMT
#2406
I care about you kurumi. That is why I paid enough attention to know your game was different than your normal town play.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 16:56 GMT
#2411
What happened to wiggles also? Paq shot a nuke at me and him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 16:59 GMT
#2415
So we are missing the nukes on Misder, GGQ, Wiggles.

Misder nuked JeeJee so hopefully he is still alive because he should be clearly town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:02 GMT
#2423
How is GGQ confirmed btw? Just because he can mason doesnt auto make it him town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:04 GMT
#2429
Oh wiggles was red sickkkk. So 2/3 of the people I thought were suspicious and wanted to nuke flipped red. I am so proud.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:06 GMT
#2435
How is GM a confirmed townie?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:08 GMT
#2438
So? I thought we learned by now not to auto trust role claims.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:09 GMT
#2442
I would like to hear kita claim who he is. I still am suspicious of him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:11 GMT
#2445
If we believe GM we are forced to believe Coag as well. Personally I don't trust either of them yet.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:14 GMT
#2451
And btw if somehow there is a medic tonight please protect me! Confirmed town with very strong power here.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:15 GMT
#2454
Yea will do Zona.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:17 GMT
#2460
I shot kurumi (red). I also pointed Wiggles (red) as one of my top targets. And day 1 I saved YM (townie) and redirected the nuke to hit palmar (conspirator).
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:19 GMT
#2462
I have no idea who you are ciryandor.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:23 GMT
#2466
I am guessing you are brahmerican. I probably wouldn't specify if you are leader or someone else if I were you. Considering heist's prophecy.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:37 GMT
#2482
Hey looking at the op sandroba's role says he is masoned with stalin. Whomever claims stalin then would be a confirmed town pretty much.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 17:41 GMT
#2485
Ohh my bad I mixed up sandroba and GGQ.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 18:01 GMT
#2494
So are we going to believe opz? If so we need to come up with another lynch candidate to vote for. I am going to place a vote on kita right now. He has been useless this game when he is normally a very good player.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 19:34 GMT
#2507
I really don't know if we should believe opz or not just yet. I don't trust anyone claiming leader right now. I especially don't trust GM who has done like 500 suspicious things. Also opz shooting syllo is very suspicious because syllo seemed the most obvious town out of everyone and opz had been arguing with decundo all game. Still there might be better targets right now for us to go after.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 19:45 GMT
#2516
I don't believe kitas claim at all.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 19:52 GMT
#2518
I mean this game is filled with power roles and he is claiming 3rd party whose only ability is to disable the nukes of 1 faction of the scum. Really? I trust no one claiming third party.

So can we please lynch Kita?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 19:55 GMT
#2520
Add into that he has done 1 analysis this entire game. And it was a complete echo of Paqmans analysis of GGQ. Kita is normally a very strong player and he is flying completely under the radar and not contributing whatsoever.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 20:05 GMT
#2525
Nuking TAA won't do anything. He tried to nuke himself earlier. Regardless of his alignment TAA is either nuke immune or has several lives as he claims.

Focus on who should be lynched right now. And the case against kita is by far the strongest at the moment.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 20:08 GMT
#2526
Yea Kita except you are claiming 3rd party so why can you only block scum nukes and not allies?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 20:12 GMT
#2528
Also kita your role claim is incredibly convienent. Since 2 moon are dead there is practically no way for us to ever confirm your power.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 20:24 GMT
#2531
Lynch kita Lynch kita Lynch kita

GM why did you vote for gtrs instead of kita when A) you said you didnt believe his claim and B) the mods have confirmed gtrs wasn't at home the last few days?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 21:01 GMT
#2547
Why should we believe any claim kita makes? His claim makes 0 sense to me. He can choose to join either side but can only block the nukes of the scum? Um ok.

Along with that like I said he has done absolutely nothing for the town and his only response to that is well nobody else has done analysis either.

At worst we kill a 3rd party who could join the scum potentially. At best we kill a fake claiming mafia. Unless someone can actually make a case for someone being scummier this seems like a slam dunk.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 22:59 GMT
#2562
On July 11 2011 07:55 ~OpZ~ wrote:

Don't believe a role that's all but guaranteed? Are you serious?


So are GM's and so are Coag's. So you believe both of them are town? After the YM fiasco I am not going to take anything for granted with role names. And it would be stupid to do so.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 23:10 GMT
#2564
On July 11 2011 08:03 ~OpZ~ wrote:
I gave relevent information on maginot line...read matazas role. He got powers if I died


You gave relevant info but GM gave relevant info about having to pick between 2 leaders and no one has counter claimed him. Makes it seem like he is likely to be town but it is not enough to clear him and this isn't enough to clear you. It is shady that you killed syllo when he had been playing the most pro town all game and was playing very similar to the last game you just played with him where he was town. And you had been fighting with dec all game long yet you chose to nuke syllo the pro town player instead.

That being said obviously I think your claim is at least much more credible than Kita's which is why I want him lynched.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 10 2011 23:51 GMT
#2567
Kita no yours isn't confirmable. We already heavily suspect that the mafia can change the day posts. So why can't they just write in the message that you stopped the planes?

Also you never said how you survived the nuke that hit you. Are you nuke immune? Do you have a certain amount of lives?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 00:04 GMT
#2569
So if you weren't going to be lynched who would you lynch and why?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 01:29 GMT
#2573
I really hope Eiii survives! If he does town is in sick good shape.

Kita arguing to lynch lurkers who have no posts really doesn't make me feel great about you. I mean do you have no reads on people who are scummy? I mean if we really feel we have a lurker problem we can nuke them. We should use our lynches on the people who are scummy and seem to have nuke protection (you).

GM half the players in the game are now dead. The game will probably play out much more normally now, I expect you to put effort in now. Who are you suspicious of? And please don't just say gtrsrs.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 01:55 GMT
#2575
wtf kita you really think ciryandor was the scummiest person left? He's basically soft claimed FDR. I don't think a scum is really that likely to claim FDR.....

If you are right I guess we probably shouldn't lynch you but pretty confident you are going to be wrong.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:11 GMT
#2578
Hey Curu you really need to claim. You talked a lot about how if sandroba flipped green you would claim. Basically the only thing you have posted in a long time is how you are against name claiming and how suspicious YM/sandroba are. Well now that sandroba/YM are both green who do you think the last mafia are?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:19 GMT
#2580
ciryandor you know I already nuked him and he survived right? I mean it won't raise the radiation level so whatever go nuts. But if you were going to waste a nuke you should have discussed with the town, there are better targets.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:32 GMT
#2589
Kita are you even reading the thread wtf?

Heist he said read the front page. He could in fact be any brahmerican but I assume he was trying to imply we would know exactly who he was because it was listed on the front page.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:34 GMT
#2591
Nice of you to pop in navillus. Who do you think is scum?

And btw I just got done looking through TAA's posts the last 3 games. I am 90% sure he is scum. He has contributed absolutely nothing this game and done 0 analysis while providing excuses for them. Look at RTM where he actively contributed and was extremely helpful. Then look at mafia XL where he was scum and he posted like he has this game, a ton of one liners and absolutely nothing useful.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:36 GMT
#2593
In RTM TAA's analysis was extremely good and he constantly called out people he thought were scummy. This game he uses the excuse that with all the madness it is impossible to tell who town is. Which is just blatantly false there is tons of information for people who actually want to put the effort in to look for it. So this combined with the mass british claims. TAA is obvious scum.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:38 GMT
#2596
rofl kita I am actually laughing at that pun.

But no you have been just as useless as he has been. And I know you are a good scum hunter if you actually want to be.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:43 GMT
#2600
Kita is claiming 3rd party heist.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:47 GMT
#2602
You are liking kita for what? The complete and total lack of scum hunting he has done? Or how incredibly fake his role claim seems?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:48 GMT
#2605
On July 11 2011 11:43 GMarshal wrote:

so you are boretish not boreritish? Thats an interesting nationality, I'm not sure its one I'm familiar with. I wonder, are the boretish nuke-proof?


Nobody has even mentioned navillus for about 50 pages. Do you think when he is completely flying under the radar he would come in here as mafia and claim british and draw attention to himself?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:50 GMT
#2607
On July 11 2011 11:48 heist wrote:
For thinking TAA is a much better choice. I can totally see the ocean being part of the game.


How. How can you see it being part of the game. You see someone who is supposedly a neutral party yet his only ability damages mafia? And he can choose what side he joins? Why the fuck would he even use his ability if he didn't know which side he was going to join. He claims he used it on GGQ. I know if I was neutral and didn't know which side I was going to join I would keep all my options open by not using my power.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:51 GMT
#2608
On July 11 2011 11:49 kitaman27 wrote:


Kinda like me with my third party ocean claim?


Uh I tried to nuke you and I had already voted for you and said how I was suspicious of you. Quite a bit different than literally navillus name not being mentioned for 50+ pages.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:53 GMT
#2611
What the fuck. Getting trolled so hard here.

I don't disbelieve an ocean I disbelieve the powers he is claiming.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:56 GMT
#2613
Didn't you read where I said kita can't confirm himself? We know is very likely mafia can fuck with day posts. Kita has no possible way to actually confirm himself.

I feel like I am the last person using even the smallest amount of common sense.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 02:58 GMT
#2616
Equally scummy people lol. Scummy people that I brought up and discussed reasons for why they were suspicious.

What scummy people have you mentioned? What analysis have you done? Anything whatsoever?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:00 GMT
#2617
On July 11 2011 11:58 heist wrote:
Framing only has to do with people that die during the night. I can't see it influencing events like the outcome of Pearl Harbor. Besides didn't someone state that the frame (if there was a frame) was an Axis campaign based on the name Marco Polo? I don't think they will have the same campaign options.


We have no way of knowing whether it was a role power or a campaign that changed the day post. Don't assume things we don't know.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:02 GMT
#2619
Why is it a big difference? Who says they have a death framer and can't just write the day post? He didn't claim a real time event would be said he said in the day post it would.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:04 GMT
#2622
Yea kita since you have claimed third party instead of town AND you are nuke immune maybe you are part of that zombie or cult faction?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:07 GMT
#2624
Also Sinani was the leader of the cult. Do you think sinani recruited me day 1?

Is it not obvious how kita is not actually trying to win or do any scum hunting whatsoever. And is instead trying to just argue and cause fighting?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:08 GMT
#2628
Try reading the op.

Leon Trot-Ze: A cultist that can win with town.

VyYEAAHHHHcheslav Molotov: If Trot-ze attempts to convert you he dies
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:11 GMT
#2630
It should be painfully obvious to everyone with even the smallest amount of common sense that kita is just trolling and does not actually want the town to win.

Heist at worst by lynching kita you hit a 3rd party and more likely you hit a scum. He is the better lynch than TAA.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:19 GMT
#2636
I have made my case no point in arguing with you anymore kita. People can side with the only person who is actively working to try and win for town and the only living person to kill a scum or they can believe the non town who has done absolutely nothing to help the town and whose role claim makes no sense. Up to them.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:33 GMT
#2644
Next 3 people I would kill would be kita/TAA/deconduo (if TAA flips green). After that I would probably kill someone between prplhz/curu/gtrsrs/gmarshal.

Prplhz I am not sure on he has done a lot of really poor things. But it seems almost too bold to be mafia. Eh I will re read his posts before I form a solid opinion of him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:34 GMT
#2646
Navillus did you just lose a life when Eiii died?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:36 GMT
#2647
Ok so we have confirmation that Nav had multiple lives from Eiii's death. That combined with him popping in and claiming british without having to be asked makes me feel really comfortable calling him town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:48 GMT
#2651
I already claimed broski feel free to read the thread.

Nav posted almost a full hour claiming british before caller posted about Eiii dying and hitting Nav. Still tho what you said is possible. But just the fact that he has 2 lives means it is a lot more likely he is telling the truth considering we know the british all got extra lives. But I agree I wouldn't call him confirmed town or anything just very likely town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 03:55 GMT
#2655
[B]On July 11 2011 12:51 Navillus wrote:[/B
Wait do I find out separately if I lost a life? Cause I didn't get a PM or anything.


Normally you should receive a pm if you lose a life.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 04:01 GMT
#2661
On July 11 2011 12:58 Ciryandor wrote:
So who are our current lynch targets, prplhz and TAA?

Nav; I was talking to kita in that post, irresponsibly nuking me just because he wasn't reading the latter part of the thread. Also, you apparently aren't very familiar with the Pacific Theater, Mountbatten was the guy who managed the Burma-India Theater; and his involvement in Europe was in championing the raid on Dieppe.


No either kita or TAA will be lynched. Unless someone makes a really damning case for someone else those 2 are going to be the leaders most likely.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 04:31 GMT
#2675
Heist is being nuked by TAA right now. So he may not even survive much longer. And make sure you vote in the voting thread Nav.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 04:36 GMT
#2678
Heist I believe you are town already so no.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 05:03 GMT
#2681
GM are you ever going to give your thoughts?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 07:15 GMT
#2685
Curu misder is dead and he shot a scum lol.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 07:17 GMT
#2687
I do agree with your points about Nav tho. So I take back calling him likely townie.

Right now I think kita/TAA are the 2 that are by far the most suspicious.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 08:03 GMT
#2698
On July 11 2011 16:52 TheAwesomeAll wrote:

Did you even read my post? Heist pushed for name claims and as a result we are getting our french guy nuked, purely based on name claims. you know what pushing for name claims is? blue fishing, in its purest and simplest form, and it should stop.


Did you read any of heist's other posts before nuking him? Nuking just for supporting name claiming is unbelievably weak reasoning to kill someone.

I support name claiming as well. You going to nuke me for it?

In RTM even though you weren't alive long you provided very good reasoning and scum hunting right away. I was on the mafia team part of the reason we killed you was because you were building good cases and attacking people with convincing arguments constantly. You have done virtually no scum hunting or analysis this game. You have basically been useless to town.

After kita you should be lynched asap.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 08:06 GMT
#2699
TAA if you want to have any hope of surviving either heist needs to flip red or you need to make a strong case for why your nuke against him was warranted. And him supporting name claiming is not even close to a convincing case.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:03 GMT
#2726
Ok kita is pretty much guaranteed scum. Absolutely no reason for anyone to shoot his nuke down unless he was lying about his claim.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:08 GMT
#2728
Can anyone else nuke? If so nuke kita.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:09 GMT
#2729
Navillus/curu/GM one of you has to have nukes right?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:09 GMT
#2730
Or coag
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:15 GMT
#2734
You already nuked today didn't you? But if you are allowed to use yours then hit kita.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:22 GMT
#2735
Hm op says you can only fire one nuke at a time, doesn't say one a day. So you maybe able to fire your nuke. Go ahead and give it a shot I say.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:25 GMT
#2737
Well I could be wrong you might be able to fire twice a day. No reason for not to try.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:31 GMT
#2738
Shoot kita prpl!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:33 GMT
#2740
Draz...... Why exactly do you think someone shot down the nuke aimed at kita if he were nuke immune?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:39 GMT
#2742
Anti nukes are definitely more valuable than regular ones. So they def wouldn't waste one like that.

And I don't think they would use one to try and frame him considering he is already the main leader to be lynched anyway.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:44 GMT
#2744
Prlp why do you pop in say you can nuke then disappear

But fine I will try

##nuke: Kitaman27

If GM/Navillus/Curu/Coag see this in time also try and nuke kita please. Because I am not sure if mine will count.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 18:51 GMT
#2745
Yea considering Caller's last post I doubt I will be allowed to shoot. So really someone else please shoot kita.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:27 GMT
#2747
Because we can kill kita with a nuke and then still get our lynch. And there is always some small chance that they are trying to frame kita, if that were the case we can check it by nuking him again. But yea voting for him is 2nd best. I know between GM/Curu/Coag/Nav one of them must be town and have nukes. Don't let me down here.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:30 GMT
#2749
On July 11 2011 12:19 Caller wrote:
22:45 and 23:18. The times when Kitaman27 and Ciyandor finish their round of mutually assured destruction.

Also, Eiii died, desperately asking for forgiveness in the words of "can you have my death not involve castration or violating my anus." His wish was granted, as instead the missile's force burst through the door of the room he was in in such a precise angle that he basically had a nuclear powered penectomy, shortly before he was incinerated by the spilling alcohol everywhere. The alcohol ALMOST killed Navilus.

~OpZ~ I'm not counting your nukes you already fired today

Also some other people are going to die in a few hours, but they're not important ^^


This is what caller posted last night. So gogo nuke kita,
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#2751
I shot kurumi today so I have fired already.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:32 GMT
#2752
I shot kurumi today. Caller is saying in that post you can only fire once a day (in the part I bolded). So I can't shoot him. Has to be someone who hasn't shot today.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:33 GMT
#2753
We should nuke kita because he claimed to be nuke immune yet someone shot down the nuke that cyrindor shot at him. So clearly he was lying about his claim and scum had to shoot it down to save him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:36 GMT
#2756
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:38 GMT
#2758
Assuming kita dies I plan on lynching you as well TAA. Your argument for why you shot heist is still unconvincing, you have done almost nothing for town when I know you are capable of good analysis and you claimed british along with like 7 other people.

If kita dies who do you plan on voting for and why?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:41 GMT
#2760
TAA................ I have said that like 10 times. I am well aware of what he has claimed. What is your point?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:49 GMT
#2764
Right now I want to kill Kita/TAA if TAA flips green probably kill dec if not then GM/prpl should be killed.

I can't decide if GM is just so apathetic that he is playing badly or if he is playing this way because he is scum.

I mean last WaW town got completely raped even with some sickos like L and RoL on town. I would think you would be motivated to try and show town can win in this setup.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:52 GMT
#2766
YM/Chaos both dead confirmed also one other person I forget.

Navillus/decuondo are both alive and claimed british.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:54 GMT
#2768
Oh Coag claimed british leader and he is alive.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:56 GMT
#2770
Ok misder was also british.

Confirmed Dead British
YM
Chaos
Misder

Claiming British
TAA
Draz
Navillus
Coag
Decuondo
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:58 GMT
#2771
But we have to remember that Caller might fuck with the roles. So like Chaos might have never been british. I don't want to lynch anyone solely based on their claims. We need some other analysis to back it up.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 19:59 GMT
#2772
TAA you claimed 3 lives right. So why don't we have coag/GM nuke you today to check if that is true.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:01 GMT
#2775
TAA you are constantly like 5 steps behind lol.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:23 GMT
#2783
Nah nav using your nuke here is good.

TAA pbp will just be a huge cluttered waste. Writing out a huge pbp analysis is usually ignored and useless. Find some major points and analyze them to discuss why GM is mafia or innocent. Talk about scummy actions, pushing mafia objective, talk about what his motivations this game have been.

Analyzing someone post by post will just be nit picking and finding contradictions (townies contradict themselves all the time this is not auto scum tell) so you need to analyze his overall play and what he has done this game.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:26 GMT
#2785
I actually agree with all your points TAA. GM has done a shit load of scummy/suspicious things this game.

However how do you explain him saving mataza early on? And what do you think about his chinese leader claim? So
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:28 GMT
#2786
Coag. TAA has claimed to have 3 lives. He has been nuked once you want to nuke him again to see if he was telling the truth? We are already nuking kita so if he dies we have to figure out who to lynch next.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:48 GMT
#2790
Coag or GM nuke TAA
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:50 GMT
#2792
TAA look I think you are scum. I doubt scum has 3 lives so you should be nuked to confirm whether you are a liar or not.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:51 GMT
#2794
TAA has claimed 3 lives he has been shot once. How likely do you think it is for scum to have 3 lives? I doubt he is nuke immune with how he reacted to me proposing he should be nuked.

And I have stated my analysis of why I think he is scum twice.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:51 GMT
#2795
According to drazark/caller no there will be no radiation for any of the nukes shot today.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:55 GMT
#2802
haha coag I will take that as a compliment I guess.

I have 2 nukes left but I already shot kurumi today so I don't believe I am allowed to shoot again. Otherwise believe me I would.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 20:56 GMT
#2803
TAA you were all for nuking yourself earlier to try and confirm yourself as town. Now I want to do the same thing and you seem extremely hesitant. Isn't it better for you to be nuked than lynched?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:07 GMT
#2807
Ok so time line.

1) TAA claims british
2) TAA then also claims vet giving him 3 lives. TAA then "tries" to nuke himself to prove that he is telling the truth since he doesn't need 3 lives but he put the command in wrong so the nuke never fired.
3) TAA then is nuked by heist and survived.
4) I now want to fire 1 more nuke at TAA just to try and see whether he was lying or not about having 3 lives.

TAA was gunho about being nuked earlier so he could prove that he was telling the truth and get town cred. But now that I have proposed the same plan TAA had earlier he is completely against it.

Conclusion - TAA is a scum veteran with 2 lives. He was fine with losing 1 life earlier to buy town cred but now that he has been nuked once he knows he will die if shot again.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:11 GMT
#2808
And look assuming kita dies. Me/Draz/Curu/Nav are all locked in on voting to lynch TAA. So either someone nukes TAA to see if he is telling the truth or we lynch him. It is better for us to nuke him because if he survives then we can try and determine whether he has been town all along. I am trying to help us avoid a possible mislynch here.

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:13 GMT
#2810
Can anyone give me reasons why this is a bad idea? Coag/GM?

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:18 GMT
#2812
GM has honestly been worse than useless this game. Probably the most anti town game he has ever played.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:24 GMT
#2816
Right I do think he is scum. I have posted my analysis of why he is scum multiple times.

And yes he could be nuke immune but if he was immune do you think he would be arguing so strongly against having a townie nuke him?

And seriously how likely is it for a scum to just have 3 lives? He claimed 3 lives before because he was british + vet. So would him having 3 lives prove he is innocent? No. But it would make him look better. I am trying to give us the maximum amount of information possible to make the correct decision on who we should lynch. I mean come on now people.

And yes clearly if kita survives this next nuke we lynch him.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:36 GMT
#2822
Curu the retaliation nuke is actually a great point I hadn't considered. But there were what only 3/4 people who hadn't fired nukes yet do you think they would spend an anti nuke just in the hopes one of the last couple people fired at kita again?

Basically I had it in my head that Kita/TAA are both scum. They know that if kita dies to the nuke then TAA will be lynched next and they lose 2 players today. And like GM said kita may have a powerful role they need during the night. They could have used the anti nukes to save wiggles or jeejee or kurumi but didn't. There must be some reason they saved Kita.

And really curu you are suspicious of me? Really so I suppose today while 0 mafia were dead I just got it in my head to bus the entire mafia team is that right? And not to mention how on day 1 I saved YM (town) and killed Palmar (conspirator). I really shouldn't have to argue my innocence at this point.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:41 GMT
#2824
On July 10 2011 10:30 Mig wrote:
Oh great we can nuke without radiation. I am going to nuke either kurumi/kita/wiggles. Haven't quite decided yet.


I guess even tho nobody at all besides me was accusing kita or kurumi. I just decided it would be a good idea to bus the entire team. I mean I fucking shot kurumi, redirected the nuke into kita and called out wiggles as being my third most suspicious person. And I am by far the most active person in analyzing and discussing ideas.

And you really still think I am scum. Amazing.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:49 GMT
#2826
You ask why I am trying to nuke instead of lynch. I am trying to kill the mafia as fast as possible because A) I expect almost guaranteed to die tonight B) the faster we kill the mafia the better because they can still kill at night.

You can't just assume the entire mafia team is nuke immune. Just like we had a campaign giving british extra lives. Their campaign could have done the same for some of them or some of them could have been veterans. I am not just going to assume half the scum team has 5 lives or is nuke immune.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 21:53 GMT
#2829
Well I won't bother arguing my innocence when it should be unbelievably obvious and I am probably going to die tonight anyway.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 22:47 GMT
#2840
Yea my bad for asking for kita to be nuked bleh.

Ok so if kita dies to nuke lynch TAA if he survives lynch kita. Easy enough.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 22:51 GMT
#2841
On July 12 2011 07:10 prplhz wrote:
I'm honestly confused about who to vote for but after hitting 2 scum last night I don't think we're gonna be a lylo soon so it's not imperative that we hit scum and I don't think that there are any clear reads on scum right now. What about gtrstsr, he hasn't been around whole game because his house burned down. If this is true, why hasn't he been modkilled or replaced? It just looks like an excuse to me to lurk and I don't like that one bit no matter if he is scum or town.

What do you guys think about gstrsr?


This is honestly ridiculous. You have no clear reads on scum right now? Really????? And it isn't imperative that we hit scum I see.

Maybe we should lynch you instead of TAA.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 22:53 GMT
#2843
I checked decon's posts. He has been useless this game as well, which is unfortunately a running theme this game.But I am not really familiar with his meta. So if TAA didn't flip red I would fully support decon being lynched after.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 22:59 GMT
#2850
Weak sauce. I guess I die earlier than tonight.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:01 GMT
#2856
On July 12 2011 07:59 kitaman27 wrote:


lol I applaud this decision

Hey Mig, maybe you should redirect a couple more at me!


Rofl :p

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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:02 GMT
#2857
I am obviously not going to nuke kita lol
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:05 GMT
#2864
Eh I honestly feel like town is going to lose lol. If decon is scum why in the world would he nuke me right now. I can only see him playing unbelievably horrible town or scum who won't die to a counter.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#2865
Its partially my fault. I really fucked up having nav shoot kita again. Acted too rashly.
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:07 GMT
#2866
Unless kita dies to the nuke then I guess it is ok but meh.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:10 GMT
#2869
Draz wtf I don't know why you keep talking about palmar. Most of the town is dead and most of the nukes have been fired. If you were telling the truth about no radiation then he can't win.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:11 GMT
#2870
On July 12 2011 08:10 kitaman27 wrote:

Don't hold your breathe.

Wait, actually could you?


gggggggggggg
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:12 GMT
#2873
Well don't worry about it then because so much radiation has been stopped it should be a non issue.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:15 GMT
#2876
Haha well I am glad you had fun trolling me kita. I am really mad at myself for asking people to nuke you, so dumb.
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:18 GMT
#2877
Frustrating game to play. Sucks when a bunch of people completely quit trying.
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:26 GMT
#2885
Coag has claimed nuke immune he probably wants to be nuked.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:30 GMT
#2891
I am not really sure who I should fire my other nuke at. I guess I could double stack on decon.

Coag/draz opinions?
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:31 GMT
#2893
So you are 3rd party decon?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:32 GMT
#2895
no
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:35 GMT
#2898
Ok I guess I will nuke decon as well then.


#nuke Deconduo
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:38 GMT
#2904
If that is true why nuke me?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:45 GMT
#2907
I mean why wouldn't you nuke one of the other bore players? Opz wasn't bore either. Several of them had already lost one of their lives. I mean you still could have won you weren't even close to being lynched. Eh I guess I will just hope you are lying instead of losing on purpose.

If decon is anything but scum town is in real bad shape. I guess just kill kita kill TAA/decon and hope for the best. If GM/prpl/other are scum there is very little hope for town.

I tried my best. GG guys.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 11 2011 23:51 GMT
#2908
If you are telling the truth really shitty that you gave up without trying and basically gave the scum the win by nuking 2 town players (one who wasn't related in anyway to your win condition).
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 00:50 GMT
#2913
Just sucks when people don't play to their win condition. Killing me clearly wouldnt help you and was just done for spite. But oh well like I said I will just hope you are lying.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:21 GMT
#2977
GGGGGGGG

I am just happy in the end kita ended up dead :p
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:27 GMT
#2983
Opz nuking syllo and sandroba being lynched were I think the biggest turning points which ruined town. They were the only 2 players who were actually actively trying to analyze and win for town. Although if sandroba had held off on nuking YM instantly we could have saved him because the death framer was figured out.

Btw the mistake caller mentioned. I am pretty sure day 1 TAA should have been lynched instead of sandroba. TAA reached 3 votes first. That would have been pretty sick for town as well.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:30 GMT
#2986
On July 13 2011 00:28 Kurumi wrote:

Sandroba reached 3 votes first because third vote on TAA was Palmar's vote at the end of the day.


Oh ok nm about what I said then haha. What was caller's mistake then?
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:32 GMT
#2987
Wtf kita had so many lives apparently.
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:37 GMT
#2992
Kita's ocean claim was so ridiculous haha.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 15:40 GMT
#2996
Yea haha. I couldn't believe I had to argue for 10 pages about how fake kita's was. And heist wanted to let him live so he could confirm it even tho we already knew you guys were fucking with the day posts.

Curu your fake claim was good. When you first said oppenheimer I was like huh the only non military leader in the game? But then its like eh invented nukes whatever could be in there and just sort of dismissed it.
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 16:10 GMT
#3009
If you thought it was frustrating being mafia you should have tried being the last townie actually trying :p
Moderator
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 16:31 GMT
#3021
Yea join AA people. Even tho it is batman themed it will play out like a normal game. A nice change of pace after this monstrosity!
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 16:33 GMT
#3024
My power was sick strong. I could also bus anyone I wanted at night, including myself. So my plan was just to make myself invincible every night and hopefully have the mafia shoot themselves lol. But was forced to use my powers during the day with everyone going nuts with nukes.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 16:36 GMT
#3028
Opz you nuked syllo the most pro town player we had instead of him lol. I wouldn't just blame the town.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 17:10 GMT
#3042
Opz your biggest problem is

A) when you accuse someone a lot of it just looks like arguing and tunneling instead of being a well thought out/written case so many people will dismiss what you say off hand.

B) you had absolutely no town cred to give your argument weight. You had lurked (whether you were busy irl or not doesn't matter) the entire game then you appear attack dec then randomly nuke syllo who was extremely pro town just because he voted for you, even tho you had been fighting with dec all game. Even if you make a good case against someone if the town doesn't trust you it's going to fall on deaf ears.
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Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
July 12 2011 17:14 GMT
#3043
Btw I am not saying that is good. I read everyone's analysis regardless of whether I think they are scummy. But it is just fact that many people won't.

Convincing town of your innocence with just your posting is an extremely undervalued skill for town players in mafia. It is so so so important.
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