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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 06 2011 11:28 GMT
#521
Why would you vote for someone who is going to get modkilled
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 06 2011 11:34 GMT
#522
This needs to be said again:

IF YOU ARE TOWN AND YOU ARE GOING TO BE LYNCHED OR NUKED, DO NOT RETALIATE UNDER ANY CIRCUMSTANCES. I KNOW IT CAN BE FRUSTRATING, BUT DEAL WITH IT.

Seriously guys, no nuking unless the majority agree. Whether or not Mataza is mafia, he needs to die.

##Vote Mataza
Eiii
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States2566 Posts
July 06 2011 11:36 GMT
#523
That's hardly the correct way to think about it-- We don't want to lynch townies. But with the rules we've established, it's been made clear that no townie should ever launch a nuke without extensive discussion and agreement beforehand.
:3
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 06 2011 11:37 GMT
#524
I might not be around for deadline so I'm gonna vote now.

heist is useless

First, heist, Watchtower wasn't really a terrible plan from the point of view I presented, but with the extra lives for the brits being permanent and the nukes not just powering through them I think that's the better option. Also, the reason I wanted Palmar to nuke is to confirm his only-duds-claim. You state that yourself and then you proceed to conclude that can't have been why I wanted him to launch. Why did you conclude this? Are you trying to just place a stupid vote somewhere where noone will notice it?

Mataza is a moron

Personal plea: stop acting like a douchebag and try to ruin everybody's game. This is hard enough already without townies deliberately setting everything on fire. I have played with you before and I know that you're a lunatic, but please, keep it under control. You are lucky that you can't launch nukes 'cause then you would be dead. This is your last chance, stop being a fucking idiot or die.

Palmar is a scummy

He has listened to syllogism's arguments before but he's trying too hard to form bandwagon on Mataza who is clearly town and who has clearly also attracted a shitstorm upon himself. This is no good scummy behavior trying to be the first vote on a guy whose lynch seems obvious. Also my intuition screams that he is scum. Your time is up old man.

##Vote: Palmar
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 06 2011 11:39 GMT
#525
On July 06 2011 20:36 Eiii wrote:
That's hardly the correct way to think about it-- We don't want to lynch townies. But with the rules we've established, it's been made clear that no townie should ever launch a nuke without extensive discussion and agreement beforehand.


The problem is people are going to be like 'Oh no, I'm getting lynched. Might as well get the last laugh and nuke my main accuser' Then the accuser knows he's going to die so he nukes someone else and we end up with a huge clusterfuck.
syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 06 2011 11:39 GMT
#526
Anyone wanting to lynch a townie is scum. The ones voting to lynch Mataza better believe there's at least a decent chance of him flipping red
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 11:40 GMT
#527
On July 06 2011 20:28 syllogism wrote:
Why would you vote for someone who is going to get modkilled


If mafia only has 1 kp like Sandroba says, this game is going to drag on pretty long if we nuke each other half to death. Lynching whoever gets modkilled will extend the game by an entire cycle. If Mataza did indeed nuke Sandroba then I'll happily switch my vote over to him (unless Sandroba flips scum).
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
July 06 2011 11:40 GMT
#528
On July 06 2011 20:40 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 20:28 syllogism wrote:
Why would you vote for someone who is going to get modkilled


If mafia only has 1 kp like Sandroba says, this game is going to drag on pretty long unless we nuke each other half to death. Lynching whoever gets modkilled will extend the game by an entire cycle. If Mataza did indeed nuke Sandroba then I'll happily switch my vote over to him (unless Sandroba flips scum).


EBWOP
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 06 2011 11:41 GMT
#529
Also, GMarshal, did you get any PMs from Caller when the nuke landed on you or something?
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
deconduo
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
Ireland4122 Posts
July 06 2011 11:41 GMT
#530
Just to clear up a few things:

Do we know how much KP mafia have?

If it is indeed 1, we lynch sandroba.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:48 GMT
#531
On July 06 2011 20:39 syllogism wrote:
Anyone wanting to lynch a townie is scum. The ones voting to lynch Mataza better believe there's at least a decent chance of him flipping red

Nope, I belive he'll flip green. I'm still killing him for breaking the established policies. I don't give a damn what you think of me as a result, but I will NOT allow this town to fall into "I nuke cause I'm town, lol!"
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:49 GMT
#532
On July 06 2011 20:41 prplhz wrote:
Also, GMarshal, did you get any PMs from Caller when the nuke landed on you or something?

No PM's from Caller or ON as of yet, why?
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prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 06 2011 11:49 GMT
#533
Because a nuke landed on you.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
July 06 2011 11:52 GMT
#534
On July 06 2011 20:49 prplhz wrote:
Because a nuke landed on you.

Yeah, I'm aware, I wanted to know why you were asking
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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22633 Posts
July 06 2011 12:07 GMT
#535
On July 06 2011 20:39 syllogism wrote:
Anyone wanting to lynch a townie is scum. The ones voting to lynch Mataza better believe there's at least a decent chance of him flipping red


What needs to be looked at is you.

I don't see any reason to believe Mataza is scum, but neither do I see why you think he's so obviously town. Firing that missile is a clearly anti-town move, but hey it's fine to ignore that when you already know he's town, right?

Seriously, am I the only one who takes notice? This is scum play 101, get town credit by opposing a perfectly sensible lynch train because you have information that we don't.

And aside from that, not lynching Mataza is dumb anyway, what the hell do you think happens tomorrow? or the other day? You demonstrate that the policies only apply if there is actually some sort of town agreement that the player in question is scummy, we get scum randomly nuking because they can get away with it.

You can try to get me lynched tomorrow if you feel like it, but you're tearing this town apart by not following policies. If this ends in nuclear war, then you're responsible.

It's such a clear contradiction, you say I'm anti-town cause I don't agree with policies, but in my book disagreement is far less scummy than outright breaking them.
Computer says mafia
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 06 2011 12:07 GMT
#536
Useless vote followed up by trying to jump on a bandwagon without putting in your own thoughts/reasons?

On July 06 2011 21:03 Ciryandor wrote:
##Unvote Zona
##Vote Mataza


FoS on Ciryandor

Also Caller makes Flash look like a B team player
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
July 06 2011 12:09 GMT
#537
Oh I'm stupid. Ask me again later in the game.
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syllogism
Profile Joined September 2010
Finland5948 Posts
July 06 2011 12:09 GMT
#538
I don't think you are anti-town because you don't agree with policies, I think you are anti-town due to what you argued for and due to not playing as you do as town. Not to mention that dud nuke/claim
Mataza
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Germany5364 Posts
July 06 2011 12:11 GMT
#539
On July 06 2011 18:09 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 17:54 syllogism wrote:
I'm not going to lynch someone I think is town, especially if the nuke didn't actually get launched


So, first you call me out for not wanting to commit to a plan that I see flawed, but then as soon as the time comes to act on it, you pull out yourself?

What's the point of the entire argument and creating policies if we're not going to follow them?

We settled on a policy, I grudgingly did so and now people want me lynched for not instantly praising the policy, that might actually work in the conspirator's favor. Yes, I don't want to use a vote-nuke tomorrow either. We can do it later in the game, but Sandroba's eagerness to use nukes rubs me the wrong way.

But we settled on it, if we don't lynch Mataza we've basically declared the policy worthless. The brilliant part of this is that you might even know Mataza is town, and thus when this is over, you reluctantly lynch him, but gain fuckton of town credit for "trying to stop a lynch on an innocent".

I'm not going to buy this.

We're lynching Mataza, and if he flips town, I'm not giving you any town credit for trying to stop it. As far as I'm concerned you're scum. I find your willingness to break policies very anti-town, it's actually worse than arguing against them, because you're basically tearing them apart at your own wish.

On July 06 2011 18:26 GMarshal wrote:
Mataza nuked. Mataza dies.

Alignment is irrelevant, this is a policy lynch, in fact, if the nuke phase isn't over I request permission to counternuke so that our lynch can actually generate information.

On July 06 2011 17:52 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 06 2011 17:47 syllogism wrote:
I'm pretty sure Mataza is town. This is the weakness of the plan; dumb townies.


I still think he needs to be hanged, if we don't do it we might see scum that are not under suspicion at current do the same, and then just hide behind their good reputation.

That's why it's a policy, we need to enforce it.


I don´t have the time to read the last 3 pages, but i am sick of the word policy already.
I am sorry for interrupting your World at Conference Mafia, but I wanted play WAW Mafia 2.
This is supposed to be awesome, not boring. I stand with my missile and I did fire a missile, I guarantee that. What´s on it you will see.

Also if there is a conspirator he will be unable to nuke someone, logically. His aim is to get others nuking, not to do all the work himself. Just like Mafia are usually a minority on who to lynch.

I regret nothing. Screw policies.
If nobody hates you, you´re doing something wrong. However someone hating you doesn´t make you right
Drazerk
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United Kingdom31255 Posts
July 06 2011 12:12 GMT
#540
On July 06 2011 21:09 syllogism wrote:
I don't think you are anti-town because you don't agree with policies, I think you are anti-town due to what you argued for and due to not playing as you do as town. Not to mention that dud nuke/claim


I have already claimed I have no nukes, Does that make me look like scum?

Yes palmar is acting suspicious but i'd rather keep him around for one more day as he is one of our more vocal players.

by the way did you know Caller had to throw away a golden mouse because he had so many?
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