On June 12 2011 04:24 grush57 wrote: Alright, Time to get Serious, the most suspicous people right now are me(:O), aprudds, Treadmill, and Vain.
First off, Aprudds.
Looking throughout his posts, he had no analysis, 90% of it saying nothing or saying ovbious things and restating what others said. All 1 or 2 liners, he is basically what I was doing. Scum? Probably, not 100% sure so would be best as a dt check/vig.
Second, Treadmill.
His explanations on why he thought xcd was scum. Then, his defence and explanation about him being "pals" with iGrok and thinking xcd was scum.After that, saying gtsrs not to ask questions? And later saying only 8 mafia. Facepalming for lynching xcd. More about the wrong vote count, and then saying that xcd probably checked Kurumi,(which I think can all be agreed upon is true). And that was all which was recent. Before, he was defending iGrok, which was all wrong and saying why he thinks xcd is scum. Is he scum? I'm not really sure. I mean sure he was wrong about iGrok and xcd, but a lot of us made that mistake too, and atleast Treadmill provided explanations and didn't lurk like a lot of us. So, I think he is townie.(Maybe Vet)
Third, Vain.
Alright, so he is pretty much avoiding mafia. Took me forever to find his profile for post history. But, he was posting in various other threads in TL. Latest post was 1000 something and before was 600 and then 500 posts in the XL thread. The latest post was him stating what happened basically and saying Kurumi is town(which i agree with) and about jackal defending lafali(intentionally or not). Saying Jackal or iGrok have to be mafia(which was right), explained everything etc. Not a scummy post at all. Later post.. says crap, shouldn't of voted rookie, lost all medics. Other post... Agreeing with Impervious about jackal being mafia... analyzing rookie, saying he spams and is scummy, anazlyses post by post. wasn't sure about iGrok being town or mafia, and questioning Kurmi being town. Scum? Well, he is/was avoiding the heat from everyone else, but all his posts are town like and include analysis, and it looks like they were all right. But then again, if he is scum he would know exactly who would be town/mafia. Would probably good for a DT check.
Me?
Well, all my posts have been 1-2 liner posts that say absolutely nothing and are verry scummish, especially for not explaining my votes, and contradicting myself. And yes gtsrs, I am now scrambling to save myself, just like anyone else would. First time for an actual towny post, but could be result of my noobiness. Sorry for my posts before, and I'll try to act my role from now on. The choice is up to you if you think I'm town based on this post and my posts or if I'm scum trying to save myself. I hope this satisfies all of you who wanted me to post something that contributes, and I hope you make the right choice of killing de scummz.
Man, I feel accomplished writing all this(lol) but I hope this is good enough, because It doesn't feel up to par to the rest of your's.
If these people (except for aprudds) arn't scum to you, who is? Give us some analysis about other players, where should we start looking? You're a strong candidate for the lynch, in case you haven't noticed. If you arn't mafia, take a pro town initiative and save yourself so we dont waste a lynch . If you are mafia, keep us this defense and save us the trouble...
I'm not going to vote until tomorrow morning until i've seen your reply and some actual accusations... i wish Vain would post more since the accusations started piling up against him, still trying to get a solid read on them.
Kurumi, youre points are pretty good if you want to advocate protown behavior. However Freeloader for example is lurking, spams and doesnt and bandwagons and doesnt post constructive whatsoever... However i can say with 100 percent certainty that he is town, because he got lafali against him. Senj however is another interesting case. He voted for rookie day 1 and day 2 he defended iGrok after which he voted XKCD, so he definetly could be scum, please start posting again. Cherubael could be scum as well, casting his vote 49 minutes after the game started. After that Lafali quickly joined as well. The rest of his day 1 hes accusing FL and Aril for defending Fl. Day 2 he comes for 1 post :
On June 09 2011 08:01 cherubael wrote: Alright. It seems that so far, there is a consensus in that people have voted either iGrok or amazingxkcd. The case on amazingxkcd seems pretty strong to me. I'm not going to go through every post he has made, as that was done here. The case against iGrok seems a little less solid. And most definitely not blue.
Also, supersoft seems to be posting some amount, but mostly things that are irrelevant, or criticizing other people, while not doing much himself, as seen here. He seems to be attacking jackal58, but doesn't really have a valid argument.
Also, sorry about the lack of posting, I've been quite busy.
...And most definetly not blue. He was right there, XKCD was the blue one.
Grush.. You aren't third medic, are You? That's why You said Treadmill might be a vet.. You protected him! iGrok wanted his scumbuddies to hit Night 1(4KP possible): GGQ(experienced,was on iGrok) - stacked 2 hits DeMorcef(defended iGrok) Treadmill(defended iGrok) - healed by Grush They did not shoot people who attacked iGrok(besides GGQ,who made a brilliant post) because that would be suspicious, they went for the opposite. Night 2(3KP possible): Jackal58 (experienced) Impervious (experienced) Kurumi (somehow experienced) - healed by Grush If You're the "real" medic, PLEASE DON'T COUNTER CLAIM. I don't want to lose third blue thanks to lynch. Grush, please convince others. I will switch my vote to Vain after I get back from a little trip but.. I seriously need You to TALK. The thing is: We lynch Medic, no saves during the night. We lose Medic during the night, one save will be there. I don't see a case where Mafia Goon would out town as Vet/another medic possible.
On June 12 2011 21:40 Kurumi wrote: Grush.. You aren't third medic, are You? That's why You said Treadmill might be a vet.. You protected him! iGrok wanted his scumbuddies to hit Night 1(4KP possible): GGQ(experienced,was on iGrok) - stacked 2 hits DeMorcef(defended iGrok) Treadmill(defended iGrok) - healed by Grush They did not shoot people who attacked iGrok(besides GGQ,who made a brilliant post) because that would be suspicious, they went for the opposite. Night 2(3KP possible): Jackal58 (experienced) Impervious (experienced) Kurumi (somehow experienced) - healed by Grush If You're the "real" medic, PLEASE DON'T COUNTER CLAIM. I don't want to lose third blue thanks to lynch. Grush, please convince others. I will switch my vote to Vain after I get back from a little trip but.. I seriously need You to TALK. The thing is: We lynch Medic, no saves during the night. We lose Medic during the night, one save will be there. I don't see a case where Mafia Goon would out town as Vet/another medic possible.
If that's the case, then Treadmill or whoever got healed and hit the first day can simply tell us what happened. It's funny how we haven't even investigated where that last KP went on night 1.
The other possibility is that Treadmill really is a vet and the mafia shot him once on night 1, and so it was a really bad scum slip (seems TOO obvious though). Whoever did take a hit should really come out now... I don't see the harm in that.
On June 12 2011 21:40 Kurumi wrote: Grush.. You aren't third medic, are You? That's why You said Treadmill might be a vet.. You protected him! iGrok wanted his scumbuddies to hit Night 1(4KP possible): GGQ(experienced,was on iGrok) - stacked 2 hits DeMorcef(defended iGrok) Treadmill(defended iGrok) - healed by Grush They did not shoot people who attacked iGrok(besides GGQ,who made a brilliant post) because that would be suspicious, they went for the opposite. Night 2(3KP possible): Jackal58 (experienced) Impervious (experienced) Kurumi (somehow experienced) - healed by Grush If You're the "real" medic, PLEASE DON'T COUNTER CLAIM. I don't want to lose third blue thanks to lynch. Grush, please convince others. I will switch my vote to Vain after I get back from a little trip but.. I seriously need You to TALK. The thing is: We lynch Medic, no saves during the night. We lose Medic during the night, one save will be there. I don't see a case where Mafia Goon would out town as Vet/another medic possible.
Something doesn't make sense here. How is there 4kp possible? Didn't 2 scum get modkilled day one? And for night 2 I thought there was only 2 kp because of the mod miscount.
TheAwesomeAll, my defense of iGrok was because I misread the last paragraph or two of his analysis. I haven't been posting much because every vote / suspect of mine turned out to be either a townie or a blue. Take it for what's it worth, I'm not scum, just noobtown.
a. I'm not vet for sure, I'm green b. as far as I know I didn't get shot night 1 (I'd know, right?) c. aprudds is right, anyways, mafia only had 3 kp night 1 so there wasn't an extra hit d. I'm starting a job this weekend so I don't have much time to post (I'll have some time for the 6 hours before the vote so I'll post more there) e. my scum detection is totally off so I really have no idea who's mafia and who isn't. I think the case against grush57 is decent, especially as all he's been posting today is "well Treadmill's vet, or not, or I don't know" which is a bit of a derail. I'm not sure what the case against Vain is, he hasn't been posting much I guess. gtsrs I'd appreciate if you laid out clearly hy you think he's mafia (apologies if you already have, again, in a bit of a rush)
I'm not voting til I get back cause I've been hasty in the past and thats been dumb.
How much KP it was possible from Mafia Night 1 and Night 2? Our discussion is null,it does not exist. Wake up people! We need to lynch the correct person. Grush,please.
I would also go for grush at this time. I'm reading the thread again and i can't find much more than 2 line posts. But this could of course be his way of playing mafia so look at the facts.
Voted for freeloader and unvote Did not vote on Rookie44(gtrsrs) Voted for amazingxkcd
His reasoning for the votes is also a bit off. A few quotes now and then wouldn't hurt.
Oh and btw gtrsrs. why do you start a post with "man treadmill your 100% scum scum scum scum fucking scum. And then: oh well don't mind that we'll just lynch Vain and grush57. And what the fuck. Derailing the thread with telling we probably have 7 scum? Really? That's not town play in my book. I would have labeled that as scum play if i weren't convinced you were town.
i will post now before kurumi goes flying mad with his lurker obsession. We have still 27 people in the game where a lot of people don't post that well thought out post
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
I am confirmed town,so why You even bother attacking me?
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
I am confirmed town,so why You even bother attacking me?
Because you have been cluttering the thread with shit like this. Do you know how hard it is to find back posts when its kurumi all over the place? I'm sure your town but that's not a reason to post 1337 times to just get your post count up.
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
I am confirmed town,so why You even bother attacking me?
Because you have been cluttering the thread with shit like this. Do you know how hard it is to find back posts when its kurumi all over the place? I'm sure your town but that's not a reason to post 1337 times to just get your post count up.
Did You notice I am just taunting You? Your case against grush57 is not good at all. Step it up or You'll share his fate.
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
I am confirmed town,so why You even bother attacking me?
Because you have been cluttering the thread with shit like this. Do you know how hard it is to find back posts when its kurumi all over the place? I'm sure your town but that's not a reason to post 1337 times to just get your post count up.
Did You notice I am just taunting You? Your case against grush57 is not good at all. Step it up or You'll share his fate.
Than please, i beg you say that instead of posting useless one-liners. Please don't reply to this unless you have found some incriminating evidence or wrote up a good well thought out post why you should. Btw, yeah my case against grush is really weak. There is nothing more to say. I could fluff up my post with nice quotes and that lovely red/green/bold you use in your posts. What i sayd are the facts. Grush is a player who makes 2 liner posts, bandwagoned on freeloader,not on rookie but voted on amazingxkcd. You could also have like read his post where he stated the same thing.
On June 13 2011 05:46 Kurumi wrote: ##Vote Vain Thanks.
Really?
Why do you even take the effort to write out a whole ruleboard how people should act and now you post like this? Look guys i write many rules for you i'm very pro town. But i'm so pro town i shouldn't be following this shit rules fuck this man. Also stop the voting in thread and just cluttering the whole thread with 50 answers and 5 questions. The last few pages have been nothing but fluff.
I am confirmed town,so why You even bother attacking me?
Because you have been cluttering the thread with shit like this. Do you know how hard it is to find back posts when its kurumi all over the place? I'm sure your town but that's not a reason to post 1337 times to just get your post count up.
Did You notice I am just taunting You? Your case against grush57 is not good at all. Step it up or You'll share his fate.
Than please, i beg you say that instead of posting useless one-liners. Please don't reply to this unless you have found some incriminating evidence or wrote up a good well thought out post why you should. Btw, yeah my case against grush is really weak. There is nothing more to say. I could fluff up my post with nice quotes and that lovely red/green/bold you use in your posts. What i sayd are the facts. Grush is a player who makes 2 liner posts, bandwagoned on freeloader,not on rookie but voted on amazingxkcd. You could also have like read his post where he stated the same thing.
Your vote history is rookie44 and Jackal58,sure we have two guys who did not vote same. You write really rarely,that's what's bugging me.. Maybe kind of not. You have voted Jackal for quite good points,but many better were brought for iGrok. You did not appear too much in the discussion. Your posting rate decreased a bit. You were torn between iGrok or Jackal to be GFs. You found a lot of good things before,could You try to do that again? Your posting is better than grush's,that's for sure. You do express Your thoughts,Your posts are not empty. I must've been too hasty. I'd still rather see You contribute more. I will take my vote off You for now and put it on someone who won't get lynched.. on Pyo. Yeah. I am not sure who I should vote right now,from both of You and I won't be around to switch it,sadly.
On June 13 2011 05:40 Vain wrote: I would also go for grush at this time. I'm reading the thread again and i can't find much more than 2 line posts. But this could of course be his way of playing mafia so look at the facts.
Voted for freeloader and unvote Did not vote on Rookie44(gtrsrs) Voted for amazingxkcd
His reasoning for the votes is also a bit off. A few quotes now and then wouldn't hurt.
Oh and btw gtrsrs. why do you start a post with "man treadmill your 100% scum scum scum scum fucking scum. And then: oh well don't mind that we'll just lynch Vain and grush57. And what the fuck. Derailing the thread with telling we probably have 7 scum? Really? That's not town play in my book. I would have labeled that as scum play if i weren't convinced you were town.
i will post now before kurumi goes flying mad with his lurker obsession. We have still 27 people in the game where a lot of people don't post that well thought out post
This post is scum 101, Let me summarize it.
im gonna vote for grush He plays a certain way, but that doesnt mean shit he votes a certain way, (insert conclusion?) Oh and btw gtrsr why do you suspect me, plz suspect treadmill instead or else ur scum
Where did you conclude grush57 was mafia? Normally i would agree he is scum, just for posting bad, but grookie and jimbooo show that since this is a newbie game, not everyone will post as constructive. Also the day 1 posts of grtrs, whining about the haikus, was just asking for votes( in fact he literally asked for votes). Please explain again why you think grush is scum. That being said, you surely deserve your place on my FOS list : Treadmill Grush Vain
On June 13 2011 05:40 Vain wrote: I would also go for grush at this time. I'm reading the thread again and i can't find much more than 2 line posts. But this could of course be his way of playing mafia so look at the facts.
Voted for freeloader and unvote Did not vote on Rookie44(gtrsrs) Voted for amazingxkcd
His reasoning for the votes is also a bit off. A few quotes now and then wouldn't hurt.
Oh and btw gtrsrs. why do you start a post with "man treadmill your 100% scum scum scum scum fucking scum. And then: oh well don't mind that we'll just lynch Vain and grush57. And what the fuck. Derailing the thread with telling we probably have 7 scum? Really? That's not town play in my book. I would have labeled that as scum play if i weren't convinced you were town.
i will post now before kurumi goes flying mad with his lurker obsession. We have still 27 people in the game where a lot of people don't post that well thought out post
This post is scum 101, Let me summarize it.
im gonna vote for grush He plays a certain way, but that doesnt mean shit he votes a certain way, (insert conclusion?) Oh and btw gtrsr why do you suspect me, plz suspect treadmill instead or else ur scum
Where did you conclude grush57 was mafia? Normally i would agree he is scum, just for posting bad, but grookie and jimbooo show that since this is a newbie game, not everyone will post as constructive. Also the day 1 posts of grtrs, whining about the haikus, was just asking for votes( in fact he literally asked for votes). Please explain again why you think grush is scum. That being said, you surely deserve your place on my FOS list : Treadmill Grush Vain
i'm still not sure about him. i'm now reading trough his post history if i can find something more conclusive. The not voting on rookie does speak for him. Igrok was distancing himself from the rest of the mafia i'm not sure of more mafia have done that or just all voted on rookie. Also
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