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Here's the first part of my reads:
# Torte de Lini: Scum + Show Spoiler +He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night. On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?my idea: don't kill sinani tonight lynch bum tomorrow resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum  quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread. DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum.
# Kurumi: Serial Killer + Show Spoiler +He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment.
# Amber[LighT]: Town + Show Spoiler +He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure.
# Jackal58 : Town + Show Spoiler +His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green.
# DropBear: Town + Show Spoiler +He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling.
# Barundar: No Read + Show Spoiler +He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active. 
# sinani206: Town + Show Spoiler +I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green.
# Mataza: Town + Show Spoiler +Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now.
# redFF: Scum + Show Spoiler +From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help.
# bumatlarge: Scum + Show Spoiler +He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts.
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United States22154 Posts
DB, I didn't add anyone to my mason circle, I attempted to add Palmar but failed because I was role blocked. I started with a random member day one, I got Kurumi.
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On June 04 2011 05:02 GMarshal wrote: DB, I didn't add anyone to my mason circle, I attempted to add Palmar but failed because I was role blocked. I started with a random member day one, I got Kurumi.
Does your kill go through bullet-proof? You should probably off Kurumi tonight then, to lower anti-town KP. I really don't get that people want to keep him around, and that they think they can control his KP.
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To clear up some confusion about myself and Palmar:
Palmar said he wanted to "check what he would flip", meaning he shot Varpulis. I misinterpreted this to mean that he used a role power to check what I would flip on death. Since I'll flip green on death, I took this to mean that Palmar was scum, because only scum/SK would want to kill a green. I then called for a day vig to hit me so that Palmar's lie would be revealed. However, I am now clear on what he meant, and retract my previous statements about vig hits and Palmar being scum.
I'm clearer on GMarshal today after re-examining things. I think it is unlikely you are scum.
redFF voted me so we can PM each other for today.
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Eternalmisfit- he seems to refuse to commit to accusations, at all. this post really stands out to me as he gives plenty of opinions, but fails to accuse anyone, instead he casts doubt on everyone, thats the kind of play I would expect to see from mafia trying to sow dissent. This post is a clear example of "leading" without contributing, role action lists need specific names and reasons rather than "follow this guy's list"
I am seriously laughing on this analysis. GMarshal, be more of a hypocrite please.
In 2 days of posting, you have never posted any analysis on suspicion apart from me on bogus reasons. You didn't vote on Day1. And then you accuse me of failing to commit. In fact, in more than half the reads you posted in the wall-of-text post, you claim 'might be scum' or 'might be town'.
And second reason of 'leading around', I am sorry I am not vet enough to have the authority to decide who the exact targets are (and it's not like people here follow my suggestions of not blowing half the town up by mishits). But considering 'vets' like you, Barundar, kita and others aren't interested in even posting about night actions, I thought it might be a good idea to provide some insight for people with the roles instead of going gung-ho over vigi-hits. Also, I clearly said to use BC's zodiac list since he is a confirmed townie (cant get more specific than that).
Again, the very same can be said of you on Day1 where you twice asked questions without answers them yourselves.
It's nice to see being accused of being scum on the basis of totally content-less arguments most of which is applicable to you too.
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Updated a few things in the OP. Also I'm going to be busy enough over the next three days, so if you could send any questions to BrownBear as well as myself that would be great.
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In case people miss it, here's the major change in OP:
There are: 12 - 20 Townies Remaining 4 - 8 Mafia Remaining 1 - 5 3rd Party Remaining
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United States4714 Posts
Voting wiggles for obvious reasons. After that we should lynch bum asap.
I have changed my mind on us killing sinani to revive bc. The main reason I have changed my mind is because I think there is a good chance we have no medic type roles. Node was by far the most pro town veteran left so for him not to have been protected either our medics are completely incompetent or we don't have any.
If we have no medics and we revive bc he will be alive 1 day before he is killed. But as long as sinani is alive we have a close to confirmed townie (really the only plausible way for sinani to be mafia is if I am also mafia and we both lied about what his role actually does) who the mafia can't kill. That is only going to get stronger the longer the game goes on.
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Did I miss where Tackster got modkilled? The OP says he's dead but I didn't see anything about that
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On June 04 2011 05:35 Rean wrote: Did I miss where Tackster got modkilled? The OP says he's dead but I didn't see anything about that Yeah.. What's his flip lol? Did Torte post at Night?
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On June 04 2011 05:35 Rean wrote: Did I miss where Tackster got modkilled? The OP says he's dead but I didn't see anything about that
He has a family emergency and won't be around for a week or two so he asked me to be removed. He said it in the thread as well AFAIK.
For clarity:
Tackster has been removed.
You are the Woman. During the day, your vote does not count. You must also make one sandwich per night. The player who is given the sandwich will be too busy eating the next day and their vote will not count either.
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34-1-7-1=25 people left,right? 20-4-1? 18-6-1? 17-4-3? I can't imagine amount of 3rd party roles being more than 3. 11-8-1? Nah,there can't be 8 mafia left lol. We nailed one scum,one scum on the plate,second as dessert. Starting amount of scum(my guess) was 6(with mole),after Night 1 they have 5 scum left,after this day it will be 4 scum left. After Night 2 hopefully 3 scum left.
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Yeah Gm sacrifice Kurumi tnight please. Once again nobody listen to Wiggles. If he flips town(lol) then we can go back and take a look at his stuff but otherwise just randomly accusing people is getting him nowhere.
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On June 04 2011 04:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Here's the first part of my reads: # Torte de Lini: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night. On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?my idea: don't kill sinani tonight lynch bum tomorrow resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum  quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread. DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum. # Kurumi: Serial Killer+ Show Spoiler +He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment. # Amber[LighT]: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure. # Jackal58 : Town+ Show Spoiler +His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green. # DropBear: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling. # Barundar: No Read+ Show Spoiler +He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active.  # sinani206: Town+ Show Spoiler +I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green. # Mataza: Town+ Show Spoiler +Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now. # redFF: Scum+ Show Spoiler +From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help. # bumatlarge: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts. Does not compute. scum.
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On June 04 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 04:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Here's the first part of my reads: # Torte de Lini: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night. On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?my idea: don't kill sinani tonight lynch bum tomorrow resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum  quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread. DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum. # Kurumi: Serial Killer+ Show Spoiler +He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment. # Amber[LighT]: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure. # Jackal58 : Town+ Show Spoiler +His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green. # DropBear: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling. # Barundar: No Read+ Show Spoiler +He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active.  # sinani206: Town+ Show Spoiler +I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green. # Mataza: Town+ Show Spoiler +Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now. # redFF: Scum+ Show Spoiler +From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help. # bumatlarge: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts. Does not compute. scum. Are You a computer? @_@
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On June 04 2011 06:07 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:On June 04 2011 04:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Here's the first part of my reads: # Torte de Lini: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night. On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?my idea: don't kill sinani tonight lynch bum tomorrow resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum  quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread. DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum. # Kurumi: Serial Killer+ Show Spoiler +He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment. # Amber[LighT]: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure. # Jackal58 : Town+ Show Spoiler +His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green. # DropBear: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling. # Barundar: No Read+ Show Spoiler +He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active.  # sinani206: Town+ Show Spoiler +I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green. # Mataza: Town+ Show Spoiler +Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now. # redFF: Scum+ Show Spoiler +From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help. # bumatlarge: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts. Does not compute. scum. Are You a computer? @_@
He's not a computer, but it would be stupid to reveal his role right now. He should also stop lurking so much.
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How do You know that Wiggles
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On June 04 2011 06:18 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 04 2011 06:07 Kurumi wrote:On June 04 2011 05:54 Kenpachi wrote:On June 04 2011 04:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:+ Show Spoiler +Here's the first part of my reads: # Torte de Lini: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He has contributed literally nothing to the town. Most of his posts have been asking questions, and playing the noob card. I see this as an attempt at thread derailment, as well as trying to find an excuse to lurk without needing to give his thoughts. He was also fingered as mafia, several times in the thread, most notably by deskcaress, at the end of the night. On June 03 2011 03:18 deskscaress wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 09:46 deskscaress wrote:hey deconduo, assuming sinani is telling the truth and he will try to revive BC, what will happen to BC is he is revived AFTER bum is killed? is his "retirement" clause then null since he had nothing to do with bum's death?my idea: don't kill sinani tonight lynch bum tomorrow resurrect BC tomorrow night via killing sinani boom, BC is back with no clauses to put him away either way i think we should lynch bum tomorrow because he is not town. sorry bum  quoting this because if deconduo answered it, i missed it, and i honestly think this is a better course of action then bringing back BC if that means we need to keep a CONFIRMED NON-TOWN alive also, as an update on Torte De Lini who claimed last night that he couldn't post any more (i hypothesized that this was likely a soft-claim on a posting restriction, kurumi adamantly stated it was just IRL obligations), he has posted 13 times on TL.net since then, with 0 in this thread. DING DING DING SCUMBELL IS RINGING, I WANT AN EXPLANATION This, combined with the fact that my shot on sinani was redirected to deskscaress, lead me to conclude, that Torte de Lini, is most likely scum. # Kurumi: Serial Killer+ Show Spoiler +He claimed it, so I see no reason for him to be lying. It was a bad claim, and I don't see why he did it, but I’m inclined to believe him. Call out his hits for him, and if he doesn’t follow through, you lynch him dead. If he refuses or shows any resistance to following town directives, kill him. Besides that, he’s useless due to his alignment. # Amber[LighT]: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s a dog. He’s also a dog who looks like he’s trying to help town. It’s hard to actually get a read on him when his communication is so restricted, but I get the feeling he’s town. Check him with a detective to be sure. # Jackal58 : Town+ Show Spoiler +His big post during the night is probably the single best thing that’s been posted this entire game. He’s trying to get the town back on track, and knock some sense into the 90% of town that made day 1 useless. He’s green. # DropBear: Town+ Show Spoiler +He’s been one of the only people I’ve seen who’s actually been contributing in a meaningful way. He’s not afraid to speak his mind, and from what I’ve seen, has actually done a bit of analysis, and not much name calling. # Barundar: No Read+ Show Spoiler +He has like 4 posts, seriously. Get more active.  # sinani206: Town+ Show Spoiler +I personally believe his claim that he’ll bring back BC. Also, his posting smells of unsure green to me. If he were scum, he’d have a lot more direction and focus. This leads me to believe he’s green. # Mataza: Town+ Show Spoiler +Maybe I’m biased here, but he feels like one of the only people who’s using his head and actually realizes there’s (since you guys love throwing this word around) confirmed anti-town, one of whom is scum, just traipsing around. He’s actually using his head, and not jumping on a bandwagon. Actually looks the greenest to me right now. # redFF: Scum+ Show Spoiler +From his nonsensical claim Day 1, to pushing bad lynches, tunneling, and worthlessly arguing, redFF has done more harm than good to town, from what I can see. Now, on Day 2, he is one of the staunchest proponents for my lynch, and I’ll bet you right now, that he’s doing it to look pro-town, and will bring it up that way later in the game that he fought so hard for a DT check, even if it was wrong. There’s also another point to be made. He constantly calls out for town to analyze, yet does no work himself. You judge people by their actions, not by their intents, and redFF has only taken actions which harm the town, leading me to label him as scum. If he’s town, he might as well stop posting, because he’s not doing anything to help. # bumatlarge: Scum+ Show Spoiler +He’s scum. no ifs, ands, or buts. Does not compute. scum. Are You a computer? @_@ He's not a computer, but it would be stupid to reveal his role right now. He should also stop lurking so much. buffering.. buffering.. overflow. scum
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Dropbear, at least I agree with a bro that bumatlarge is a lying scumbag.
I feel ya
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