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Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 03 2011 14:45 GMT
#1621
On June 03 2011 23:44 chaos13 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote:
also, about the random shooting.

chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info.


I don't dig bro. What about this?


I decided to check what Varpulis would flip.

I don't have any investigative powers.

I investigate with ma guns.
Computer says mafia
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 03 2011 14:46 GMT
#1622
Palmar, you're also missing the part where I defended VisceraEyes, prplhz, and Sandroba. All of them turned out to be town. Maybe you guys should start listening to me.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 03 2011 14:47 GMT
#1623
On June 03 2011 23:45 Palmar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 23:44 chaos13 wrote:
On June 03 2011 07:29 Palmar wrote:
also, about the random shooting.

chaos13 really shot down any arguments against varpulis and I couldn't get any bandwagon going on the guy, so I decided to check what he'd flip, cause this gives me ton of info.


I don't dig bro. What about this?


I decided to check what Varpulis would flip.

I don't have any investigative powers.

I investigate with ma guns.


Ah. The way that was worded I understood it to mean you checked what I would flip.
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 03 2011 14:52 GMT
#1624
On June 03 2011 23:46 chaos13 wrote:
Palmar, you're also missing the part where I defended VisceraEyes, prplhz, and Sandroba. All of them turned out to be town. Maybe you guys should start listening to me.

All those four behaved weirdly.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 03 2011 14:52 GMT
#1625
decon replied with a good answer

redFF, will you mason me?
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 15:12 GMT
#1626
Palmar: I'm so confused, so much to read @________@! Palmar, can you kill people? If so: your penetrating hit can probably kill serial killers right? Can you confirm this for me, because then you can kill Bum or Kurumi. Save us a day of lynching them, right.

In fact is Palmar here? I am having trouble finding your posts dude.

I mean I guess it's pretty obvious that Wiggles is scum... so I know who I am voting for. But what do we do about

Oh and I wrote for Sandroba if that helps you guys, but everyone knows his role already D:

I need to find that list that was made awhile back.

Chaos13: No, not really, what did he do?
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Palmar
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
Iceland22632 Posts
June 03 2011 15:24 GMT
#1627
Torte:

read the fucking thread bro.

I'm actually not answering you, everything you asked is in the thread. if you can't be arsed playing... well.
Computer says mafia
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 15:26 GMT
#1628
I read everything, I might have missed it. No need to get huffy with me, a yes or no would have worked.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 03 2011 15:28 GMT
#1629
On June 04 2011 00:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Palmar: I'm so confused, so much to read @________@! Palmar, can you kill people? If so: your penetrating hit can probably kill serial killers right? Can you confirm this for me, because then you can kill Bum or Kurumi. Save us a day of lynching them, right.

In fact is Palmar here? I am having trouble finding your posts dude.

I mean I guess it's pretty obvious that Wiggles is scum... so I know who I am voting for. But what do we do about

Oh and I wrote for Sandroba if that helps you guys, but everyone knows his role already D:

I need to find that list that was made awhile back.

Chaos13: No, not really, what did he do?


I'm a little suspicious of him for reasons I wrote up earlier (lurking, didn't seem like he was contributing, etc.) and I wanted to get your opinion on him. Thanks for the answer

As for your post, "what do we do about ____"? Looks like it got cut off there.

And I'm not sure what list you are talking about. If it is the zodiac list BC made, here it is, with a few more names added by me.

ZODIAC LIST
bumatlarge
BloodyC0bbler
GMarshal
Meapak_Ziphh
DropBear
Node
Jackal58
kitaman27
Rean
Mr. Wiggles
tnkted

Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 15:29 GMT
#1630
Nah, awhile back, someone wrote a list of everyone's powers who claimed and shit. I'm having trouble finding it.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 03 2011 15:39 GMT
#1631
Palmar, bro, you're starting to worry me. Especially after you pulled the rug out from under me in SNMM.

What Wiggles is saying is not totally unreasonable given the roles in this game. Even despite my hesitation I think the town's best bet is unfortunately to sac you, Wiggles, and see how you flip. If you flip green like you say you will, I think we will have a lot of information to go on and my number one suspect will be our favorite fist pounder, Palmar. Saying you're the "greenest bro here" is quite an overstatement. Just because you told us how your role works doesn't mean we can trust you.

Palmar, what do you think our next move should be IF Wiggles flips green?

Hopefully I'm worrying over nothing, Wiggles will flip red, and all will be well in the world.
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 03 2011 15:40 GMT
#1632
Torte, do you have some sort of posting restriction, or is your activity just low?

Here's the list from Rean that you were talking about, it's on Page 75.

+ Show Spoiler +

On June 03 2011 07:03 Rean wrote:
A quick list of dead roles/last will etc so far, will update with claimed stuff and other information that has been claimed in the thread in a bit

  1. Kurumi
  2. Karshe
  3. Mr. Wiggles
  4. deskscaress The Possesed + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Possessed. You're the materialization of a disembodied spirit!
    You are capable of murdering someone with your bare hands, but that person will be chosen at random and you can only do it once.
    If you are lynched, the last person to vote for you will immediately suffer a painful death.
    If you are killed, the killer's alignment will be revealed to everyone.
    "

  5. GMarshal
  6. Palmar
  7. Eternalmisfit
  8. sandroba The Painter + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Painter. You're an artist, a man of creativity and come from a river of wit and inspiration. Each night you can paint any other player to another role you see fit. As a painter, your works are only 2-dimensional, they cannot come to life and thus any person you paint as a different role, doesn't mean they actually play that role, they just appear as that role when investigated.

  9. chaos13
  10. kitaman27
  11. Kenpachi
  12. Tackster
  13. Varpulis Police Chief Mole + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Police Chief. You have day and night abilities, but you must choose which one to use. You are limited to one action per cycle. You may only use each ability once, but if you use all five you may start again.
    At night
    -You can inspect any player, revealing their alignment.
    -You can arrest a player and throw them in prison. This will roleblock them, but also prevent them from being actioned against.

    In the day
    -You can interrogate a player, finding out who they targeted the night before.
    -You can set up surveillance on a player, this will allow you to see who visits that player the following night.
    -You can order your forensics department to perform an autopsy on one of the players that died that night, they will scrub the body for evidence and be able to name one player that visited that person last night..

  14. tnkted
  15. hiro protagonist
  16. redFF
  17. sinani206
  18. Node Indie Rocker + Show Spoiler +
    You are the Indie Rocker! As you have the best music taste in town, you don't need to get involved with the daily ramblings, and instead deal with problems yourself at night. You can get mad and kill people because of their terrible taste in music once per night.

    However, your ego is pretty high. In case you haven't hit a mafia and killed him/her by day 4, regardless of your alignment, you will turn emo instead and kill yourself.
    His last will: + Show Spoiler +
    Hey everybody,

    If you're reading this, I'm dead. To save you the questions that would probably consume the thread for pages the way it's been going, I'm able to write this due to someone else's ability, not my own.

    I shot prplhz. I figured that if both myself and BC find him as scummy as we do, it would be worthwhile. Sorry if he was town, but I stand by my decision.

    Lynch bumatlarge over anyone and everyone else if he didn't kill a scum last night. I guarantee you town has more KP than it could ever need -- just look at my role, and imagine if there were only two more similar ones around somewhere. I know at the very least I gave a role with more than one KP. Plus, ask yourself, why would Batman "retire" if the Joker were dead but not the other way around? Nah, being SK is waaaaay too convenient.

    I've reconsidered on chaos13 -- reading over his posts he's done less than I thought he did. This doesn't mean he's mafia or town, just don't spare him because I said he was town earlier. Lynch bumatlarge first.

    Finally, Palmar is probably town, Varpulis is probably scum, Tackster is still probably scum (but if bum is scum, he's probably not), and GMarshal needs to post more.

    KISSES XOXO,
    Node

  19. bumatlarge
  20. Mataza
  21. Mig
  22. VisceraEyes Veteran Zombie + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Veteran Zombie. You have been around the block. You've been in many other Team Liquid mafia games, and you've always managed to land a kill but not without getting yourself taken out.

    Even though your destiny is to die to take another soul to the grave, you've learned a few skills to evade death. You have two lives and you are able to take another person of his choice with you if you get killed. Your ability activates automatically upon death"

  23. Amber[LighT]
  24. BloodyC0bbler The Goddamn Batman + Show Spoiler +
    "You are the Goddamn Batman. You are the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So the town hunts you because you can take it. You are a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Role-claming as Batman at any point of the game will get you lynched. However, since you are well disguised as Bruce Wayne, role checks on you come back as Playboy Millionaire.

    Every night you go ahead and protect the first person being targeted by a KP. However, you are truly incorruptible and do not let scum die out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness and thus protect that person regardless of their alignment.

    Your Arch-Nemesis, the Joker, is bumatlarge. He knows who you are but can not cause your death. You may not reveal his role nor can he reveal yours. If he dies, you will retire from your life of fighting crime, satisfied that the city is safe."

  25. Torte de Lini
  26. Cthsazsa
  27. Barundar
  28. Meapak_Ziphh
  29. DropBear
  30. prplhz The Coward + Show Spoiler +
    You the Coward. You can survive a lynch once thanks to your fast legs and knowing every dark place in this town. You can also decide to leave your home at night once. Any actions that are attempted on you that night will be redirected to other people visiting you. If only one person visits you that night they will be told "You couldn't find Your target

  31. stefftastiq
  32. Rean
  33. Jackal58


Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
June 03 2011 15:48 GMT
#1633
I have a posting restriction.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 03 2011 15:50 GMT
#1634
What is the restriction? Or, who gave Torte his role?
Karshe
Profile Joined November 2010
United States212 Posts
June 03 2011 15:54 GMT
#1635
Also, as I previously said,

##Vote: Mr.Wiggles

We can't spend the entire rest of the game unsure if you are lying about your alignment and being the victim of a bus and run, hopefully you understand. Your death should help the town no matter what you flip.
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
June 03 2011 16:01 GMT
#1636
I'm kind of honored I'm being included on zodiac lists with such illustrious names.



On June 03 2011 17:39 stefftastiq wrote:
Shouldnt it be safe to assume that the ones trying to lead attention away from Mr Wiggles are mafia? He showed up scum based on how someone made desks role - and I also got that medium message posted earlier - no town would "protect him" ?

right now it seems like both hiro and mataza both are trying to help wiggles live - probably because he got mafia kp?

@tnkted
may I ask what you vote for coagulation was for? :-D


No you may not.


On June 03 2011 23:34 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 03 2011 23:22 Palmar wrote:
oh, and in addition.

I claimed an uncontested night kill on the mole, I claimed my role, confirmed by tnkted.

I'm probably the greenest bro in town right now.

You're going down chaos13.


No, you are not. You are most likely not scum (barring a bus). But that doesn't mean you can't be 3rd party. Also, killing Varpulis doesn't earn any cred in terms of your analysis. It means your analysis on Day1 and the subsequent judgment was crappy as hell. Varpulis was a mole but he didn't know that so he was playing town which means you shot a townie. Yeah, it turned out lucky for town that he flipped mole but considering how many townies took pointless pot-shots, it was all a question of probabilities of some jackass hitting the jackpot. This game that jackass is you.

In fact, if I see you trying to claim more town cred for shooting a mole or using that as a justification for making people follow your analysis, I am more likely to believe that you are scum who bussed the mole.


Mafia knows who the mole is. In PYPI our mole was GM (where the hell is gm btw? He must have some sort of posting restriction). GM was this crazy town detective role. In the end game, after all the investigative roles had inspected us out, GM was our ace in the hole. He had so much townie cred by that point he managed to survive several cycles of lynches. In this case, the mole was a similar role. After revealing a mafia or two and actually helping town out, that mole would have been so far up our asses we would have red-eye.

But he's dead. That means that mafia (including, hypothetically, palmar) either thought he was gonna get killed anyway (possible, a lot of people thought that he was scummy d1, which he wasn't) or they thought he was worth bussing (he wasn't, not at this point in the game).

Look, almost all of the suspicion we threw at each other day1 was wrong. Look at the kills! I'm willing to let palmar live and even willing to let him not reveal who he is killing until we've got some more info.

That being said, Palmar if you hit greens for the next two days I'm going to reverse myself and start advocating a lynch for you.



Now, regarding the wiggles/bum situation: The best plan of action is actually to let bum live today. We need to kill wiggles ASAP since he is a confirmed mafia member and we want to wittle their numbers down so that they can't plan as well. Mafia is much more dangerous to us than SKs are. Nightkills can be directed at bum, and I'm actually willing to let kurumi live for now. Some of you might not have noticed it, but he actually has more pro-town posts than PYPI, which was the only time I've played with him. His meta is supposedly unreadable, but I would have lynched the shit out of him last game and I want to let him squirm for a little bit longer now. Frankly, a SK claim makes absolutely no sense for him. It makes sense for bum (bum wants to live till the end) but an SK claim for kurumi is just stupid.

Now, regarding the chaos/palmer catfight: Chaos, Palmar is not scum if you flip green. Townies can tunnel poorly. Palmar, your arguments are not persuasive to me for the same reason.

TLDR;

We lynch wiggles today.
We target bum with a vig (it may not hit, but I suspect that he's lying about his invincibility, unless his rolegiver can confirm that). If bum lives, we lynch him tomorrow.
We let Kurumi live for the time being.
We pretend that chaos and palmar are both town until we know more.
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 03 2011 16:06 GMT
#1637
GM is the Leader of Cult. He can invite people to his Pm circle. He can kill member of his circle.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
tnkted
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
United States1359 Posts
June 03 2011 16:08 GMT
#1638
On June 04 2011 01:06 Kurumi wrote:
GM is the Leader of Cult. He can invite people to his Pm circle. He can kill member of his circle.


Um. has this been released in thread already?
'I think "tnkted" may have justified this entire thread.' - Mjolnir
Kurumi
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Poland6130 Posts
June 03 2011 16:11 GMT
#1639
On June 04 2011 01:08 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 01:06 Kurumi wrote:
GM is the Leader of Cult. He can invite people to his Pm circle. He can kill member of his circle.


Um. has this been released in thread already?

Well I think I posted it somewhere. Though You don't need to believe that,the only part I am sure of is "PM circle" He also claimed that he can invite to it.
I work alone. // Visit TL Mafia subforum!
Eternalmisfit
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States643 Posts
June 03 2011 16:15 GMT
#1640
On June 04 2011 01:08 tnkted wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 04 2011 01:06 Kurumi wrote:
GM is the Leader of Cult. He can invite people to his Pm circle. He can kill member of his circle.


Um. has this been released in thread already?


Afaik, Kurumi has hinted it many times. But this is the first time he has stated openly. But between his inane posts, spam, and bad grammar, I might have missed it.
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