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On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying.  I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles, 
If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it...
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A few things. People who picked my role, Tacksters, palmars and basically anyone else who claimed should confirm we are telling the truth if you are still alive.
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aww 
RIP me
gl town
with my last breath i curse zoidberg
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Wiggles there is no way to "coincidentally" or "mistakenly" be identified as scum.
I even asked Dec if he was going to change my role, and he specifically said,
Its looks great to me One of the few roles I don't think I'll change at all.
This isn't a matter of not appearing scummy. You killed desk, and we are going to avenge his death with your blood
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Redff, you are manic.
Cut back on sugar and coffeine and then maybe I will pay attention to you again. Look at Visceras post, then look back at your own.
I am convinced you are innocent, but that doesn´t make you right.
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On June 03 2011 06:40 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles, If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it...
That is a HUGE wifom and a HUGE "what if". Why are you so easily defending him, scum?.
If someone kills Wiggles now, and he flips green, you guys will know I am scum.
But I promise you, the above will never happen.
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On June 03 2011 06:44 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:40 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles, If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it... That is a HUGE wifom and a HUGE "what if". Why are you so easily defending him, scum?. If someone kills Wiggles now, and he flips green, you guys will know I am scum. But I promise you, the above will never happen.
because I know something you dont.
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On June 03 2011 06:41 Cthsazsa wrote:Wiggles there is no way to "coincidentally" or "mistakenly" be identified as scum. I even asked Dec if he was going to change my role, and he specifically said, Show nested quote +Its looks great to me One of the few roles I don't think I'll change at all. This isn't a matter of not appearing scummy. You killed desk, and we are going to avenge his death with your blood
Have you never heard of a framer?
Here's what a normal framer role looks like:
Framer
You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself.
So, you're going to tell me, that in this set-up, with such crazy roles, there's no way that I could have shown up as red to a check, unless I was red?
I mean, even Sandroba's role was a framer type role, and you're saying there's no possibility of an alignment framer?
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Ok, total massacre. Shit.
1. Palmar is telling the truth about his role. #fistpound palmar
2. This night wasn't a total wash. Most of the abilities we just lost were not that important in the grand scheme of things:
Coward only helps himself
Possessed can easily backfire on town, in this case it didn't and we got a scum out of it
Police chief is a bit of a loss, but he was the mole so I don't feel too bad about it
Indie Rocker is... totally awesome. I kind of wish I was this role.
Painter is just a really bad town role
3. We've got a few things we can safely do now:
We lynch bum
We lynch wiggles
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On June 03 2011 06:29 Kurumi wrote:
Who does not care who wins? Who does want to live just for pleasure of it?
I am Serial Killer. If this helps town I am all for lynching me,though I'd like to get rid of that pesky roleblocker and get You KP list at least.
wtf? if you are sk you don't win with town.
5. We got an interesting glimpse into the sorts of roles that people got. I was not expecting people to come up with scummy roles, since the chances of you being town is much higher than the chances of being mafia. Painter in particular REALLY suprised me. This means that yes, alignment masking is a possibility and Wiggles could be telling the truth.
Its time for Wiggles to claim, although I don't think its going to help him any. I reacted the exact same way he is reacting now when I was revealed scum to everyone in PYPI. I panicked and started claiming that I was framed. However, I don't think that mafia would bother framing wiggles. I don't think his place on the zodiac list was that important. Why?
Well, from my position, the zodiac lists were a huge fucking waste of time. Veterans != good players, Veterans = Experienced players. Experienced players wouldn't bother framing wiggles; they'd frame somebody more likely to be checked, like me.
6. Therefore we have to lynch wiggles. I'm sure some more cops etc have stuff to post in thread, but I'd advise them not to do that. If anyone can think of a way for townies to claim without revealing their role, that'd be great. Off the top of my head I thought of red running through voting everyone in town and asking if they have anything to claim, but that has obvious problems. A police radio would be nice here.
7. Anyone have a daykill? Use it on bum, the sooner the better so that scum doesn't bus him out of the way.
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Well that's pretty interesting.
GG
(sorry for the edit, but PS, READ MY FREAKING WILL)
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just throwing this out there, since I've been told I'm allowed to post it.
*you should lynch sinani*
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note thats all im allowed to say =(
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Poland6130 Posts
On June 03 2011 06:45 hiro protagonist wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:44 Cthsazsa wrote:On June 03 2011 06:40 hiro protagonist wrote:On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles, If you created desks role, and you where scum, and you knew you had a framer, you would do it... That is a HUGE wifom and a HUGE "what if". Why are you so easily defending him, scum?. If someone kills Wiggles now, and he flips green, you guys will know I am scum. But I promise you, the above will never happen. because I know something you dont.
Yeah,but You're not going to share it because it is fast and You can't catch it,right.
Wiggles,mafia would have no point in framing You,so stop it.
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Also whatever tackster's sandwhich role is is scaring me... what happened with that?
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On June 03 2011 06:41 Mataza wrote:
Redff, you are manic.
Cut back on sugar and coffeine and then maybe I will pay attention to you again. Look at Visceras post, then look back at your own.
I am convinced you are innocent, but that doesn´t make you right.
No, I'm pressuring you goddamnit and you are just calling me a maniac? Reply to my damn pressure or just admit you are scum. We lynch Wiggles today and shoot this mofo tonight. If you have day kp shoot wiggles immediately please.
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Poland6130 Posts
On June 03 2011 06:46 Node wrote:
Well that's pretty interesting.
GG
(sorry for the edit, but PS, READ MY FREAKING WILL)
Yeah You picked role for Tackster,anything missing?
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On June 03 2011 06:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:41 Cthsazsa wrote:Wiggles there is no way to "coincidentally" or "mistakenly" be identified as scum. I even asked Dec if he was going to change my role, and he specifically said, Its looks great to me One of the few roles I don't think I'll change at all. This isn't a matter of not appearing scummy. You killed desk, and we are going to avenge his death with your blood Have you never heard of a framer? Here's what a normal framer role looks like: Show nested quote +Framer
You have the power to change how one's alignment and role appears to any detective type actions performed on them that night. You may use it on one person per night and may not use it on yourself. So, you're going to tell me, that in this set-up, with such crazy roles, there's no way that I could have shown up as red to a check, unless I was red? I mean, even Sandroba's role was a framer type role, and you're saying there's no possibility of an alignment framer?
Wiggles please read the BOLD. You didn't have an action performed on you! You activated Desk's role by KILLING HIM!!!
Fellow townies please do the right thing
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Oh, #vote node for having such a baller hipster role.
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United States4714 Posts
It seems obvious lynch wiggles and kill bum with vigs. We also need to consider who we should revive with sinanis power since I don't think we can risk reviving bc with bum dead. So please someone save a kp so we can potentially use it to kill sinani and revive a powerful role if needed.
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Poland6130 Posts
What about Dayviging both Bum and Sinani?
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