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On June 03 2011 06:24 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:What the hell? Last night I shot at Sinani, because I wasn't convinced that bum was an SK and not scum, and then further that he would actually shoot sinani because it would bring back the batman. Somehow, my shot was redirected to deskscaress.  I also wouldn't put it past scum to frame me. Bum is scum, mafia has a redirector or busdriver, and I was framed. That's all I can think of. They didn't want sinani killed so that BC could come back, so they sent the shot somewhere else. If you guys want me to claim, I will. Can a roleblock stop the SK from killing?I don't believe Bum about being roleblocked, that's too convenient, especially because I know mafia have a redirector. get out scum. I don't think framing matters when Decon tells us you are scum in the OP!!!!!
How does he say I'm scum? When desks dies, his ability puts the alignment of the player in public. If I was framed, my alignment would show up red. Even look at what Kenpachi said:
On June 03 2011 06:15 Kenpachi wrote:
Besides Bum, Wiggles is easily the strongest player in the game. With him gone, i believe Mafia is most likely a bunch of puppets.
You think mafia wouldn't frame me? I'm likely to attract DTs, simply because I was on several Zodiac lists, as well as being a player whose alignment is hard to tell.
What about what I'm saying doesn't make sense? The two things are completely unrelated. I was framed, and Sinani was replaced with deskscaress. This isn't some scum master plan, just a fucking terrible coincidence.
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On June 03 2011 06:22 Mr. Wiggles wrote:What the hell? Last night I shot at Sinani, because I wasn't convinced that bum was an SK and not scum, and then further that he would actually shoot sinani because it would bring back the batman. Somehow, my shot was redirected to deskscaress. I also wouldn't put it past scum to frame me. Bum is scum, mafia has a redirector or busdriver, and I was framed. That's all I can think of. They didn't want sinani killed so that BC could come back, so they sent the shot somewhere else. If you guys want me to claim, I will. Can a roleblock stop the SK from killing?I don't believe Bum about being roleblocked, that's too convenient, especially because I know mafia have a redirector.
no. you will die.
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I gave sinani his role. So he can revive anyone he wants if he dies.
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On June 03 2011 06:29 Kurumi wrote:
Who does not care who wins? Who does want to live just for pleasure of it?
I am Serial Killer. If this helps town I am all for lynching me,though I'd like to get rid of that pesky roleblocker and get You KP list at least.
wtf why would you claim sk? Bum had a specific reason. You are a sk, you do not want to be lynched to help town... PEOPLE STOP CLAIMING UNLESS YOU HAVE REAL REEASONS TOO!!!!!
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Who cares,Mafia would need to kill me one night anyway.
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I´m interested in the report of tnkted.
I mean he´s an intentionally useless lurker, I would be happy to know if he´s a scum lurker or not.
And before I forget
#fistpound Palmar
I hope you get lucky again 
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GUYS!
I promise Wiggles is lying. 
I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone".
I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed Scum
Mr. Wiggles, 
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If any of you have at least a small amount of common sense, you'll lynch him.
Jeeze, I think I would even suggest a day vig to kill him now, if we have one.
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On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles,
That role is just chaotic.. kinda irked me when i read the description lol
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Wiggles will die,don't worry about it. I will take care of bum this night.
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Does the Sandwich on me still count?
If not, I´m having a lot less trouble today.
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On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles,
your lying...
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If you think I'm scum, go back through the thread, and tell me how I'm scum. Read my posts. I haven't been as active as I've wanted to be, but I've been trying to help the town, and avoid getting embroiled in the mass confusion that's been so prevalent.
Look at what I wrote during the night:
On June 02 2011 07:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Vigilantes and other KP:
I'm actually unsure of this at the moment. I might come back later after thinking it through more, but I hope they use their discretion. Just because you can shoot night 1 doesn't mean you need to, especially if you have no strong scum reads. Carpet bombing the town probably isn't a great idea when there's already so much confusion.
I had no idea who to shoot last night, and was probably going to save my shot to avoid exactly the kind of massacre that happened today. Than sinani claimed that he could revive bum, so I wrote:
On June 02 2011 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 10:38 Mig wrote:
I can't see any reason to sinani to lie about this. If he is lying and we didn't kill him. Then whomever gave him his role would tell everyone that sinani was lying and lynch him. Just seems like way too big of a risk for a mafia to take.
So I think it is safe to assume he is telling the truth. In that case we should take the trade and have bum kill him that way we don't have to use any of our kp to do it down the line. It couldn't be a recruiting role, could it? As in it brings back BC, but changes his alignment? I'm trying to think of any possibility where scum would want to do this, and that's about the only one I can think of. The only other thing, would be if he's something like a methman or NRA member, but then he'd only do a 1 to 1 trade, and that's bad for scum, so it's unlikely. Also, if we send Bum in to do it, any possible traps become irrelevant, because they won't kill town anyways :p I think we should go for it, if we're sure of his alignment.
However, thinking about it, I weighed the risks that sinani was lying didn't outweigh the benefits that we would get from having BC back as a confirmed town analyst. As well, I wasn't personally worried about actually dying if it was a trap.
Look back through my posts, what I said correlates to what I did.
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On June 03 2011 06:33 Mataza wrote:I´m interested in the report of tnkted. I mean he´s an intentionally useless lurker, I would be happy to know if he´s a scum lurker or not. And before I forget #fistpound PalmarI hope you get lucky again
how aboutyou respond to anything i've damn said or are you just gonna let everyone accept that you are scum???
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On June 03 2011 06:34 Cthsazsa wrote:GUYS! I promise Wiggles is lying. I created Desk's role and I specifically stated in the pm that I sent in that, "If you are killed, your killer's alignment is revealed to everyone". I am begging you guys, please do not believe wiggles, we need to lynch him first before we kill anyone else as he is a Confirmed ScumMr. Wiggles,
Yes, your killers alignment, just like a DT checks alignment. However, framers make an alignment show up as red to all checks done that night.
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On June 03 2011 06:36 Mr. Wiggles wrote:If you think I'm scum, go back through the thread, and tell me how I'm scum. Read my posts. I haven't been as active as I've wanted to be, but I've been trying to help the town, and avoid getting embroiled in the mass confusion that's been so prevalent. Look at what I wrote during the night: Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 07:51 Mr. Wiggles wrote:
Vigilantes and other KP:
I'm actually unsure of this at the moment. I might come back later after thinking it through more, but I hope they use their discretion. Just because you can shoot night 1 doesn't mean you need to, especially if you have no strong scum reads. Carpet bombing the town probably isn't a great idea when there's already so much confusion. I had no idea who to shoot last night, and was probably going to save my shot to avoid exactly the kind of massacre that happened today. Than sinani claimed that he could revive bum, so I wrote: Show nested quote +On June 02 2011 10:45 Mr. Wiggles wrote:On June 02 2011 10:38 Mig wrote:
I can't see any reason to sinani to lie about this. If he is lying and we didn't kill him. Then whomever gave him his role would tell everyone that sinani was lying and lynch him. Just seems like way too big of a risk for a mafia to take.
So I think it is safe to assume he is telling the truth. In that case we should take the trade and have bum kill him that way we don't have to use any of our kp to do it down the line. It couldn't be a recruiting role, could it? As in it brings back BC, but changes his alignment? I'm trying to think of any possibility where scum would want to do this, and that's about the only one I can think of. The only other thing, would be if he's something like a methman or NRA member, but then he'd only do a 1 to 1 trade, and that's bad for scum, so it's unlikely. Also, if we send Bum in to do it, any possible traps become irrelevant, because they won't kill town anyways :p I think we should go for it, if we're sure of his alignment. However, thinking about it, I weighed the risks that sinani was lying didn't outweigh the benefits that we would get from having BC back as a confirmed town analyst. As well, I wasn't personally worried about actually dying if it was a trap. Look back through my posts, what I said correlates to what I did.
You weren't suspicious at any point,so there was not point in framing You,Rat. Just shut up and wait for Your lynch
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On June 03 2011 06:36 Kurumi wrote:
Wiggles will die,don't worry about it. I will take care of bum this night.
no
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On June 03 2011 06:38 Kenpachi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 03 2011 06:36 Kurumi wrote:
Wiggles will die,don't worry about it. I will take care of bum this night. no
I won't kill Bum this night?
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hiro how do you know he is lying?
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