EPTIn no way does your survey help us identify scum. If you don't believe me, please reread your questions.
Kthanks.
Also, I'd like it if you answered my question. Who do you think appears scummy, suspicious, and protown?
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
In no way does your survey help us identify scum. If you don't believe me, please reread your questions. Kthanks. Also, I'd like it if you answered my question. Who do you think appears scummy, suspicious, and protown? | ||
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PaqMan
United States1475 Posts
That contradicts what you said in your post. And it looks like your only targeting him because he started tunneling you. And the fact that he's been absent for a good while seems to be your only excuse to call him scum?... | ||
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tnkted
United States1359 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:56 Cthsazsa wrote: That contradicts what you said in your post. And it looks like your only targeting him because he started tunneling you. And the fact that he's been absent for a good while seems to be your only excuse to call him scum?... Actually I said the exact same thing in the post. You're splitting hairs. And I don't care if he's gone right now, this is when I'm awake. He'll be back on tomorrow. He's scummy because of what he was posting, not because of what's been happening in his real life. As for the tunnelling thing: You clearly didn't read my post very closely. I am immune to pressure in this game. I don't give a flying fuck if you vote for me, its going to do nothing but waste your vote. I won't say anything else about my role, but I'm sure somebody will be able to figure it out. | ||
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deskscaress
United States399 Posts
On June 01 2011 13:28 sinani206 wrote: Wait desks is that a KINGLYNCH I see? On June 01 2011 13:35 sinani206 wrote: Wait has no one noticed desks #lynch? Now we know that there is a kingmaker somewhere or maybe desks is a permanent king. i don't know what a KINGLYNCH is  i'm sorry what did i do wrong? if you're referring to #lynch, i thought everyone wanted us to vote in the discussion thread as well as in the voting thread? i was just voicing my changed vote, i do not have the power to instantly lynch anyone. is it improper to use #lynch on this forum? i will not do so in the future. consider me to have said #vote viseraeyes instead  | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Right now, BloodyC0bbler is the most suspicious to me. His posts make me feel like he's speaking for the whole town, all the time. Almost as if discussions that aren't relevant to him...are scummy...period. And he's got followers, which is scary by itself. Pro-town..besides me (herp)....I'd have to say Amber. He's going to a lot of effort to contribute so far, and most of it has been relevant imo...by which I mean, I agree on most of his vaguely communicated reads so far. I also feel like Node is green. He's at least giving us his opinion, and most of it is fair that I've read. People I can't figure out... Jackal comes off as arrogant...but not so much scummy. Torte...from lack of posts primarily desk...very passionate, very adamant, very flighty GM...claimed early that he was avoiding doing pro-town things in case he's a mole. Essentially opting out of being a 'good' townie until day 3...when he knows for sure he's not a mole. This has been confirmed as feasible by...someone. What interests me is his very strict adherence to this policy. He hasn't given an opinion on anyone really, just asks questions. sandroba...knows what sandroba is doing. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:12 VisceraEyes wrote: @Cthsazsa & others concerned Right now, BloodyC0bbler is the most suspicious to me. His posts make me feel like he's speaking for the whole town, all the time. Almost as if discussions that aren't relevant to him...are scummy...period. And he's got followers, which is scary by itself. Pro-town..besides me (herp)....I'd have to say Amber. He's going to a lot of effort to contribute so far, and most of it has been relevant imo...by which I mean, I agree on most of his vaguely communicated reads so far. I also feel like Node is green. He's at least giving us his opinion, and most of it is fair that I've read. People I can't figure out... Jackal comes off as arrogant...but not so much scummy. Torte...from lack of posts primarily desk...very passionate, very adamant, very flighty GM...claimed early that he was avoiding doing pro-town things in case he's a mole. Essentially opting out of being a 'good' townie until day 3...when he knows for sure he's not a mole. This has been confirmed as feasible by...someone. What interests me is his very strict adherence to this policy. He hasn't given an opinion on anyone really, just asks questions. sandroba...knows what sandroba is doing. I like getting called out. I also like getting called out by people who have not even been reading my posts. You will find I have been encouraging discussion, even participating in it. However, this only relates to discussion which actually does something useful for the town. Something to organize us, something that forces people to reveal hints about their alignment. By concentrating discussion on areas in which the mafia cannot hide easily. All the discussion I have tried to stifle does nothing but allow mafia to hide or sit back while we argue and bicker. Your survey was no exception. It is essentially another "hi i like making" list posts that have no weight now or late game. I do appreciate you trying to point fingers at me, however your behaviour so far this game is pretty terrible. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
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Meapak_Ziphh
United States6786 Posts
Anyway. Just read the thread again, I think tackster is scum and it's been reenforced by my read through. Tackster has been relatively inactive and there's a pretty good case against him out there. Any decent scum team would snag this, send a couple accusations his way, then just roll with the brand new bandwagon. The lynch would be a pretty smooth one with an almost unanimous vote. However what are we seeing instead, tackster is being defended and more significantly, there are alternative options for the lynch. Tackster is VERY inactive, if he's town there's almost no reason for anyone to stand up for him and it would be extremely easy for mafia to lurk their way through... but that's not what we're seeing. Regardless of how tackster flips though, we're learning a lot with this lynch. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
You say you are guiding town so what exactly should we be discussing right now? | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
I would suggest since he threw us back on this topic we look at the posts made roughly around that period. Once you were accused and your plan dragged back up too much time was spent on it, then on other non helpful discussions. We can analyze what was going on in that period that mafia would benefit from covering up. I am going through now a list of possible candidates for lynching for today. All of which will be responsible for trying to redirect town attention away from decent conversation. I will then emphasize of that list the 2-3 that should be considered for a day 1 lynch based on posting. No one raised any issues when I proposed this earlier so I will now follow through on it. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 01 2011 14:43 VisceraEyes wrote: @BloodyC0bbler Tell me this list-guy. Why do you think I'm supposedly on the dog's unverified list? I have no idea, as I'm obviously inexperienced and, as you say, terrible...but I suspect it's because he either knows my role or my alignment. If your on his unverified list, it would mean he doesn't know what you are -_- seriously do you read what you type? | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
Not usually. You don't really have to be a dick, guy. I don't know what you're angry about SPECIFICALLY, but I know it doesn't have anything to do with me. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
As of now you are pulling out an "incontrol" and my time is kind of limited today. I'm leaving to the airport 6AM and will be mia for at least 20 hours. | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
I brought his plan up, because it was related to why I thought he was scum. I didn't jump back to discussing it's merits, only that it was a bad plan in a way which benefited mafia. That was my bit of analysis, to add on to Sandrobo. However, his reactions and posts in the resulting shitstorm made me start to think he was less likely to be scum, and more likely to be a townie, pushing a really bad plan. That said, I'm going to place my vote on Tackster for now. ##Vote: Tackster Night. | ||
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BloodyC0bbler
Canada7876 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:15 VisceraEyes wrote: @BC Not usually. You don't really have to be a dick, guy. I don't know what you're angry about SPECIFICALLY, but I know it doesn't have anything to do with me. I'm not angry duder. Don't take my posting to be angry unless you see mass caps and me calling you a retarded backwoods faggot or the like. I find being aggressive as I am a much better way to force people to step up than being nice about it. It also forces players into arguing. That in turn gives information that is used to analyze people. I know I come off as a dick, but if you sit back and look at what I'm doing the reason is pretty clear. It gives town information to work from, as well as helping you learn areas you need improvement in your game. We all have areas to improve, no shame in it. | ||
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
On June 01 2011 15:19 BloodyC0bbler wrote: I'm not angry duder. Don't take my posting to be angry unless you see mass caps and me calling you a retarded backwoods faggot or the like. I find being aggressive as I am a much better way to force people to step up than being nice about it. It also forces players into arguing. That in turn gives information that is used to analyze people. I know I come off as a dick, but if you sit back and look at what I'm doing the reason is pretty clear. It gives town information to work from, as well as helping you learn areas you need improvement in your game. We all have areas to improve, no shame in it. No, but there's a difference between being aggressive in your posting and just being insulting and rude. But whatever. Teach me how awful I am, if you think you can. And if you're alive that long. | ||
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VisceraEyes
United States21170 Posts
##Vote BloodyC0bbler | ||
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hiro protagonist
1294 Posts
One thing Im sure everyone else has noticed, is the large amount of post that are not helping (hello tnkted, kurumi), or are conversations between people that are not scum hunting (hello sandroba, RedFF). Now, I would like to ask a question: If you where Mafia, and this was the state of the thread, how would you play? Would you, post filler and un-helpful post? Or would you sit back and let the thread go? How about calling out all of the bad posters to make them look scummy, while making you look good? (please don't answer in the thread. this is for you to think about...) I know how I would play the game at this point if i was scum, and right now node is doing just that. I would also to some extent say Meapak_Ziphh is doing the same thing. + Show Spoiler + On May 31 2011 14:12 Node wrote: Yeesh this thread is ridiculous. All right, after reading over redFF's posts I think that completely separate from his talk about his role (which is about the only thing that he has talked about for quite awhile) he's been largely useless. At the moment I'm unable to decide whether he's scummy or a bad townie, but I'm leaning towards the latter. So, I'm going to say this: RedFF, for the sake of the thread and the sanity of everyone in it, do more with less posting-wise. This is your only halfway decent post so far this game. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions you're drawing there, but it at least shows a little effort towards things that actually matter. I'm going to put my vote on hiro protagonist for now. He's been largely concerned with Amber's posting and role, and has quite a few posts in the thread, but has done nothing helpful for... anybody, really. Even his questioning of Amber was just treading over familiar ground that others had already done. He's threatened to try to lynch anybody that talks to Amber without asking him a question directly (I think? hiro can be hard to understand), but hasn't followed up on that statement. He's just dead weight at this point and until I see him do something solid I'm going to be suspicious. I'm willing to continue rolling with this. On June 01 2011 01:25 Node wrote: I agree with the doggy. Chaos13 has been doing a really good job of contributing this far, and I think he's been extremely pro-town. sandroba, on the other hand, has done nothing since the beginning of the game, where he weakly pushed a plan that involved everybody claiming whose role they had made. He also endorses LAL policy lynches, which, in this setup.... ehhhhh. I won't critique his plans too harshly, but what sets my alarm bells a-ringin' is that he proposed these plans (easy for mafia to do to appear like they're contributing, not to mention the plans were likely doomed to fail anyways) and then promptly failed to do anything else. This was another of his posts from early in the game. I know it's a small thing, but this post in particular, as early in the game as it was, screams scum to me. Scum love to pile on aggressive pressure without content backing it up in little posts like these. ##Vote sandroba Also, it sounds silly, but I'm pretty sure Amber is town at this point. He's said a lot with very little and is clearly trying to help us out. On June 01 2011 10:02 Node wrote: Christ this three-way sandroba / redFF / Jackal catfight is terrible. I'm going to say this plain and simple: You guys are contributing nothing. You're inflating the thread with several pages of bitching that is only making it harder to get real scumhunting done. If I had to choose, I would say that none of you or two of you are mafia, and to be honest I don't think any of you are smart enough mafia to get in an endless fight in order to clog up the thread -- the only people that I've seen pull off that style successfully were Ace and Pandain in Insane Mafia 1. The real mafia are likely sitting back, sniping a bit here and there, and laughing at you. So please, think about what you say before you say it, and try to fit your arguments into concise posts instead of getting into these idiotic, de-railing spats. I'm fine with you being suspicious and arguing, but the way you're doing it won't get us anywhere. Make your case, and then let it be. I'm going to put my vote on Tackster for now. I agree that his big post is pointless. Plus, it's timing is impeccable, as its position in the thread is such that it can be easily skimmed and ignored without much scrutiny. I'm not sure about sandroba being scum, and I like that he's been posting more. Honestly, at this point I wish he'd shut up a little. First he calls me out. fine. I respond. Then nothing. Then he jumps on with voting for sandroba. sandroba yells uncle. node moves on. next up, Tackster. and thats where he sits. recently he called Prplhz scummy. ALL of these have been easy targets, given the state of the thread. All but sandroba (who he has started defending) have something in common: new or otherwise bad posters. node claims he his FoSing them to get them to shape up. This could be true. It could also be a way of slipping a bad townie up, in hopes that there reaction will be noticed by others as scummy, in hopes of an easy lynch. This is not to say I am voting for node. I just wanted everyone know how I feel about him. I dont have much of a scum read on anyone else (with the exception of Meapak_Ziphh, which I will go into later) I am curious as to who BC has in mind for a lynch. | ||
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