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+ Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions.
Ok, this post is scummy as hell. It serves no purpose for the town except derails discussion and encourages spam. The only ones who can benefit from these answers are scum.
And the post ends with an appeal to the town-cred trying to subtly suggest that people not answering the questions are suspicious/scum. (see itals)
#Vote: VisceraEyes
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lol @ Question 4 and 5. That screams red to me.
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On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions.
1) thread derailment, bad townies are active lurkers, scum are derailers
2) Dropbear or node
3) absolutely not
4) Node
5) GM
6) Palmar's fratiness
7) read the thread all the way through before you make your next post.
I actually like this test, when I get home I'll qoute this and explain everything.
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On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions.
No. This is just a waste of time. Guess who is guilty of thread derailment? Question 2 looks like a medic looking for advice or scum wanting to know who to hit. Question 3 has been discussed to death, and questions 4-7 are moderately scummy at best.
I guess you should be taking note of me now?
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EBWOP: I think I will be changing my vote as well.
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+ Show Spoiler +On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions.
I am kinda curious to see the answers to this (because I'm vain and the answers concern me), but I don't see how this is supposed to benefit the town, at all. I have the feeling you already have the answers you're looking for, in which case, why not share them?
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1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
Mafia will do the opposite
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
Mafia will choose someone else
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
What is the point of this question?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
Mafia will kill the winner
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
Mafia will kill the winner
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
Mafia will kill the winner
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
Mafia will kill the people who are right
How does this help town in any way at all?
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Rean and tnkted
There is a general lack of content in their posts but that can be said about Torte, Kenpachi, Barundar, and hiro to name some other folks. I am not familiar with the playstyle of those two as well so cannot comment on a scum/town read based on that.
Some finals thoughts before I head to bed, I think that there are too many lynch candidates and my voting on Viscera does not help either. Too many candidates put more power in the hands of scum to control the lynch. I am of the opinion that narrowing down the lynch candidates might be a better idea so that the town can focus on a smaller pool.
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Can we cut this moronic survey nonsense out please? It derails the thread and lets people post things more or less freely. I warned GM for it and now we have vicera doing it? Quit the nonsense shit and lets move on to real discussion. Making a system that purposely lets mafia be active at no cost to themselves is honestly going to shaft us.
As for today, as no one can honestly agree on a suspect, I will be going through the thread and finding the few players who are spending more time derailing the thread as opposed to helping town and pushing to off them. Thread derailment is something scum benefit from and are more likely to push so would give us a "safe" day 1 lynch target. If anyone has objections to this lets hear it now and get the discussion rolling or lets move forward.
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On June 01 2011 12:18 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Also, GM your survey is horribly scummy, no one continue responding to it.
On June 01 2011 12:39 VisceraEyes wrote:
Okay, I've got a survey.
1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
If anyone doesn't feel comfortable answering my inane questions, feel free to ignore them. Everyone else, take note of who doesn't want to answer my inane questions.
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thanks, i was starting to feel like maybe my vote for redFF was a bad choice. much easier decision now
#lynch: VisceraEyes
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Viscera, surely you haven't disappeared after posting your survey! Please tell me, who do you think is scummy or suspicious?
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Wait desks is that a KINGLYNCH I see?
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Although I want to, I will abstain from voting on him unless he doesn't post some sort of explanation or something that contributes.
If I have time between classes tomorrow, I'll switch my vote.
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EBWOP: The reason why I'm not voting now is if he isn't red, he just gave scum an easy way to vote w/o having to give much of a reason or thought and get away with it.
If that makes sense?
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Wait has no one noticed desks #lynch?
Now we know that there is a kingmaker somewhere or maybe desks is a permanent king.
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On June 01 2011 11:47 sinani206 wrote:
@M_Z tnkted apparently can't help the town by voting, and he hasn't helped with analysis at all. There is just no reason to leave him alive. We need townies who can actually contribute.
Vigs, shoot this guy. He's crazy scummy.
And everyone, take your votes off me, they're wasted. I'm guarrenteed (via role) to be in the lategame, so forgive me if I don't waste my time on bad analysis by overeager players on day 1. Votes are better spent somewhere else, and bullets are better spent on other players.
That being said, heres my suspicion list (not a scumlist, but people that are worth a check):
sinani is acting very scummy. He popped up in the thread the second somebody accused him and then frantically started tunneling the most suspicious person in the thread which was (by intention) me.
Jackal is also acting scummy, but in an unusual way I don't think people are picking up on yet. Jackal's MO is to play very aggressive and constantly pressure people, which is what he's doing. However, in this game, he doesn't seem to have much interest prolonging the pressure he puts on. By this I mean he doesn't follow through his pressure.
Thats all for now. By the way, Mafia is probably laughing their asses off since the thread is in such a dissolute and chaotic mess. I absolutely assure you that we are not going to lynch a mafia today, especially if we lynch Tackster, who is probably the worst possible lynching target we could get today.
Oh, by the way, I'm not bus driver, or I'd bus him out with somebody.
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1) Which do you consider to be more scummy; Active Lurking or Thread Derailment?
Active Lurking. Thread derailment is noticeable, provable and obvious. You can actually convince town to lynch someone who's derailing threads, as there's proof to quote and discuss. Lurking allows you to see everything, analyze everything and plan. Given the right excuses and bandwagon voting, lurkers can make it to the end of a game, easily.
2) During the night, who do you think is going to be a top-priority target for Mafia?
Amber[LighT] - the supposed posting restriction would have to be offset by some sort of powerful blue ability to be fair for the player. This is as good as a confirmed blue role unless Amber is AMAZINGLY clever.
3) Given the opportunity to Bro-fist Palmar, would you do it?
I've done it.
4) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think has the most town cred based on this thread alone?
Node, based on the fact that GM is just asking questions and BC is just making and commenting on lists. Node appears to have an opinion, and appears more green. To me.
5) Between GM, Node and BC, who do you think controls the opinions of others the most?
BC, because this game has several noobs who appreciate tips and being told who to be suspicious of and who to watch out for.
6) Between Palmar's frattiness and red's Masonry, who's role do you find the most interesting based on information you have now?
Palmar's - Red's so far has appeared to be pretty straight-forward given everything we know about it is true and confirmed. We still don't know what Palmar's role entails...but he's making a big show of using it.
7) Assuming you had the entire town's ear and you know everyone would believe you, what do you want to say FIRST?
It's going to take two shots to kill me.
This survey is designed to make you think like scum. The Mafia are going to kill whoever they think is the biggest threat regardless. You guys can lynch me if you want, you've seen the questions, the answers are irrelevant. If everyone answers them, we'll have a LOT to go on as far as scum-hunting goes. If some people answer them, you'll have some to go on. If no one answers them, then mafia already won.
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On June 01 2011 13:40 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 11:47 sinani206 wrote:
@M_Z tnkted apparently can't help the town by voting, and he hasn't helped with analysis at all. There is just no reason to leave him alive. We need townies who can actually contribute. Vigs, shoot this guy. He's crazy scummy. And everyone, take your votes off me, they're wasted. I'm guarrenteed (via role) to be in the lategame, so forgive me if I don't waste my time on bad analysis by overeager players on day 1. Votes are better spent somewhere else, and bullets are better spent on other players. That being said, heres my suspicion list (not a scumlist, but people that are worth a check): sinani is acting very scummy. He popped up in the thread the second somebody accused him and then frantically started tunneling the most suspicious person in the thread which was (by intention) me. Jackal is also acting scummy, but in an unusual way I don't think people are picking up on yet. Jackal's MO is to play very aggressive and constantly pressure people, which is what he's doing. However, in this game, he doesn't seem to have much interest prolonging the pressure he puts on. By this I mean he doesn't follow through his pressure. Thats all for now. By the way, Mafia is probably laughing their asses off since the thread is in such a dissolute and chaotic mess. I absolutely assure you that we are not going to lynch a mafia today, especially if we lynch Tackster, who is probably the worst possible lynching target we could get today.Oh, by the way, I'm not bus driver, or I'd bus him out with somebody.
If this thread is in such dissolution, maybe you need to get us on the right track, because you're not helping either.
Lets start with this question: Who is probably the best lynching target.
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On June 01 2011 13:40 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 11:47 sinani206 wrote:
@M_Z tnkted apparently can't help the town by voting, and he hasn't helped with analysis at all. There is just no reason to leave him alive. We need townies who can actually contribute. Vigs, shoot this guy. He's crazy scummy. And everyone, take your votes off me, they're wasted. I'm guarrenteed (via role) to be in the lategame, so forgive me if I don't waste my time on bad analysis by overeager players on day 1. Votes are better spent somewhere else, and bullets are better spent on other players. That being said, heres my suspicion list (not a scumlist, but people that are worth a check): sinani is acting very scummy. He popped up in the thread the second somebody accused him and then frantically started tunneling the most suspicious person in the thread which was (by intention) me. Jackal is also acting scummy, but in an unusual way I don't think people are picking up on yet. Jackal's MO is to play very aggressive and constantly pressure people, which is what he's doing. However, in this game, he doesn't seem to have much interest prolonging the pressure he puts on. By this I mean he doesn't follow through his pressure. Thats all for now. By the way, Mafia is probably laughing their asses off since the thread is in such a dissolute and chaotic mess. I absolutely assure you that we are not going to lynch a mafia today, especially if we lynch Tackster, who is probably the worst possible lynching target we could get today. Oh, by the way, I'm not bus driver, or I'd bus him out with somebody.
This is complete BS. I'm willing to take my vote off you if you give me a solid defense. You are just trying to find some excuse for an OMGUS. You know what? I'm sorry that I happened to have free time when I did at school. I don't understand why you can't accept that. And what is this "I intended to be suspicious" bullshit? You say that in parentheses, but then don't give any reason for it. Give me a good reason why I shouldn't vote for you and maybe I won't. I don't see what's wrong with pressuring you a little for some good content. You don't have to blow up all over me. I'm not sure I believe you about your role yet, but that can wait until tomorrow, I guess.
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On June 01 2011 13:45 Cthsazsa wrote:Show nested quote +On June 01 2011 13:40 tnkted wrote:On June 01 2011 11:47 sinani206 wrote:
@M_Z tnkted apparently can't help the town by voting, and he hasn't helped with analysis at all. There is just no reason to leave him alive. We need townies who can actually contribute. Vigs, shoot this guy. He's crazy scummy. And everyone, take your votes off me, they're wasted. I'm guarrenteed (via role) to be in the lategame, so forgive me if I don't waste my time on bad analysis by overeager players on day 1. Votes are better spent somewhere else, and bullets are better spent on other players. That being said, heres my suspicion list (not a scumlist, but people that are worth a check): sinani is acting very scummy. He popped up in the thread the second somebody accused him and then frantically started tunneling the most suspicious person in the thread which was (by intention) me. Jackal is also acting scummy, but in an unusual way I don't think people are picking up on yet. Jackal's MO is to play very aggressive and constantly pressure people, which is what he's doing. However, in this game, he doesn't seem to have much interest prolonging the pressure he puts on. By this I mean he doesn't follow through his pressure. Thats all for now. By the way, Mafia is probably laughing their asses off since the thread is in such a dissolute and chaotic mess. I absolutely assure you that we are not going to lynch a mafia today, especially if we lynch Tackster, who is probably the worst possible lynching target we could get today.Oh, by the way, I'm not bus driver, or I'd bus him out with somebody. If this thread is in such dissolution, maybe you need to get us on the right track, because you're not helping either. Lets start with this question: Who is probably the best lynching target.
Sinani. Easily.
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