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chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 01 2011 01:21 GMT
#881
I would like to remind everyone to put their votes in this thread as well as the voting thread. It will make things much easier to keep track of.
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 01 2011 01:28 GMT
#882
@Node

If you think that Tackster was really scum would he have ended his post with "KISSES xx". And you say that his post is easily not noticable, I just really think that it is. It is a very long post from a dude you haven't seen around a lot. I think if he were scum he would really have made that post a bit shorter, it might be the longest post I remember reading in this post so far. That said, yes it is full of fluff but I don't think we should judge people by their not being useful right now. This game is beyond complex and I don't think anybody has proved to be conclusively useful yet. I also think that in the likely case that Tackster flips green then we will have gained nothing except a wasted lynch.

So who do you think have conclusively contributed to this thread since you think that lack of contribution is a criteria for lyching? And why do you think that Tackster is the one who contributed the least? I mean at least he never spammed the thread like Kurumi or sandroba.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 01 2011 01:28 GMT
#883
@chaos does saying "i'm voting for xxx" count, or are you asking for ##vote xxx?

@kita I agree that Rean needs to explain his posting, but a vote on him didn't seem to be doing much. Did you see my analysis? It said pretty much exactly what you just did.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
June 01 2011 01:32 GMT
#884
On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:

Instead answer these questions.
1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight
2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow
3.) what is your favorite colour
4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest?


1) Rean or Tackster maybe, hard to say at this point
2) Sandroba, what he did with it would tell me his alignment 100%
3) Green, but I enjoy many colours, it depends on the object
4) I thought Sandroba, but I'm re-evaluating, maybe tnkted

Did you answer your own questions, GM?
you gotta dance
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 01 2011 01:32 GMT
#885
On June 01 2011 10:28 prplhz wrote:
@Node

If you think that Tackster was really scum would he have ended his post with "KISSES xx". And you say that his post is easily not noticable, I just really think that it is. It is a very long post from a dude you haven't seen around a lot. I think if he were scum he would really have made that post a bit shorter, it might be the longest post I remember reading in this post so far. That said, yes it is full of fluff but I don't think we should judge people by their not being useful right now. This game is beyond complex and I don't think anybody has proved to be conclusively useful yet. I also think that in the likely case that Tackster flips green then we will have gained nothing except a wasted lynch.

So who do you think have conclusively contributed to this thread since you think that lack of contribution is a criteria for lyching? And why do you think that Tackster is the one who contributed the least? I mean at least he never spammed the thread like Kurumi or sandroba.

I hope to god you're joking about the kisses. This entire argument is WifoM. Tackster isn't just being useless, he's adding worthless posts to the thread.

This is a scummy defense, imo.
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
June 01 2011 01:32 GMT
#886
On June 01 2011 10:17 chaos13 wrote:
I think Tackster is definitely a good candidate for a lynch. He lurks, posts some brief thoughts that don't really give away much information, and then provides another excuse for leaving again.
I'm also still unsure of redFF and tnkted, but they are not the scummiest players.
Someone I really have my eye on is GMarshal. I don't feel that his contributions have been as good as they could be, and his response to my earlier accusation of him was rather weak. Overall I'm just getting a bad feel from him. This isn't enough to lynch him, but I'll be watching.

As for what is going on right now - Sandroba and Jackal and everyone else in on this argument needs to stop. Neither of you are actually analyzing, you're just going back and forth with "you suck", "No you suck", "shut up scum", "you shut up". It's not providing anything helpful.

kitaman27 and Node, what do you think of GMarshal?


I feel he's been asking the right kind of questions, and though he hasn't been taking especially firm stances on particular people, on day 1 with the amount of madness happening in this particular thread it can be a difficult thing to do. I'm not getting a scum vibe currently, but I do hope to see more active scumhunting from him.

I can understand him playing a bit more cautiously after being the mole in PYP Insane. I think he's been overall helpful, if a little more careful than I'm used to.
whole lies with a half smile
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 01 2011 01:33 GMT
#887
On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:
1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight
2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow
3.) what is your favorite colour
4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest?


1) I wouldn't shoot anybody if I were a vigilante. Not enough to base shooting on and you can't be sure of somebody's role, maybe they're immune to vigilantes and I'll have wasted my bullet.
2) I'd make you king because you really need to do something instead of asking questions all the time. I mean it's all good but you gotta make a move at some point.
3) prplhz
4) sandroba and Node seems scummy because he's protecting him but he probably just doesn't know any better.
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
deskscaress
Profile Joined May 2011
United States399 Posts
June 01 2011 01:33 GMT
#888
yo i don't mean to be otto obvious here but just as we shouldn't be bro-bumping palmar without his reasoning, do you guys think it's wise to be telling GMarshal your favorite color? yeah, decent chance he's just doing the monty python routine (what is your name what is your quest what is your favorite color) but regardless i would not divulge anyone's requests until you know why they are requesting them
would you ever miss it?
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 01 2011 01:36 GMT
#889
On June 01 2011 10:28 Varpulis wrote:
@chaos does saying "i'm voting for xxx" count, or are you asking for ##vote xxx?


I would prefer the proper bolded format. It makes it much easier to see.

As for Rean, I think the very thing that kita sees as a scumtell is a towntell for me. The fact that he said he has contributed when he really hasn't seems more like something a town would do than mafia. I know that as a townie I tend to overestimate my contributions. As scum I am far more careful about what and how much I post, and am therefore far more aware of how much I have actually contributed.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 01 2011 01:38 GMT
#890
On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:

Instead answer these questions.
1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight
2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow
3.) what is your favorite colour
4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest?



1) tnkted. completely useless posting
2) Amber[light] because he might have a list of Mafia or something. His role might've been nerfed by dec:
No overpowered roles
The game wouldn't be much fun if someone got super dt+medic that had 3 nightkills and a daykill. Be sensible with your picking. If I feel the role you have picked is too powerful I will nerf it in someway.

3) red
4)
10. kitaman27 acting like he was in XXXIX, where he was Mafia
12. Tackster useless theorycrafting
14. tnkted like i said above, useless
25. Torte de Lini so many posts elsewhere on TL. a purposeful lurker
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 01 2011 01:38 GMT
#891
+ Show Spoiler +
On June 01 2011 08:17 Mataza wrote:
Show nested quote +
On June 01 2011 07:38 GMarshal wrote:
On June 01 2011 07:35 Mataza wrote:
tl;du:
Your plan prevents something from happening that won´t happen unless your plan was done already.

You say w/out your plan mafia can claim any role they want. But they can´t unless they somehow find out who created their roles. And right now your plan reveals exactly that.


We are done discussing a plan that will not be put into place. Both sides have been pretty clearly laid out.

Instead answer these questions.
1.) If you were a vigilante who would you shoot tonight
2.) if you were a kingmaker who would you make king tomorrow
3.) what is your favorite colour
4.) Of all the players with more than ten posts in the game at the moment, which seem the scummiest?

Since its directed at me:
1) I wouldn´t shoot. If I was compulsive, I´d shoot cthsazsa. Few posts, even less content.
2) This is hard to say. Dropbear over Cobbler.
3) This is not a dating show
4) Right now, redff. Before that, Palmar. If I could include more(seem means plural) Varpulis, Chaos13 and Kitaman 27 too.



Ahh, I meant to post before I went to school this morning, but the 24/28 hour deadline where I'm at is either 3:00pm or 4:00pm (GMT -6:00), which is right about where I get out of school (3 more days 'till school is out for summer heck yaa). Then I'll be able to stay up-to-date.

That said, if you don't think I'm scummy or even suspicious, why the hell would you shoot me?? That makes no sense. Few posts, next to no content. Yes, I guess you could call it lurking, but it takes me almost a whole hour to read through all the spam and shit.
How does it help town to kill someone you don't even find scummy. You might as well kill the 3 other people who are struggling to keep up right now.


I need to get my vote in tonight because I know I'm not going to remember to do it in the morning.
Back to rereading >_>
t(ツ)t
PaqMan
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
United States1475 Posts
June 01 2011 01:42 GMT
#892
Also, another heads up in case anyone is wondering about my schedule for this week. I'm taking finals during the next three days, graduation is on Friday, and a graduation party on saturday, but that wont start untill 4:00pm.
t(ツ)t
Node
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States2159 Posts
June 01 2011 01:44 GMT
#893
On June 01 2011 10:28 prplhz wrote:
@Node

If you think that Tackster was really scum would he have ended his post with "KISSES xx". And you say that his post is easily not noticable, I just really think that it is. It is a very long post from a dude you haven't seen around a lot. I think if he were scum he would really have made that post a bit shorter, it might be the longest post I remember reading in this post so far. That said, yes it is full of fluff but I don't think we should judge people by their not being useful right now. This game is beyond complex and I don't think anybody has proved to be conclusively useful yet. I also think that in the likely case that Tackster flips green then we will have gained nothing except a wasted lynch.

So who do you think have conclusively contributed to this thread since you think that lack of contribution is a criteria for lyching? And why do you think that Tackster is the one who contributed the least? I mean at least he never spammed the thread like Kurumi or sandroba.


Since this is your second time bringing up the "KISSES" thing, I have to assume you're serious. That is literally the most WIFOM-y argument you could make, and it gives absolutely no indication as to whether or not he's scum. If it were that easy to prove that you're not scum, then everybody would do it -- but then scum would do it too, etc etc. It tells us nothing.

I think that his post failed to take a conclusive stance on any of the subjects mentioned. Reading back through it, I couldn't tell you where Tackster stands on the most. Post length has very little to do with it -- in fact, if anything, the length of that post makes him more scummy in my eyes, as a very clear and concise short post is infinitely more useful than a long, muddled one.

I think BloodyCobbler has been useful. I think chaos13 and Mr. Wiggles have proven their worth. Palmar is also someone I'd like to have around as the game progresses.

Contribution is a criteria for lynching, it is not the criteria for lynching.

KISSES XOXO
whole lies with a half smile
prplhz
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Denmark8045 Posts
June 01 2011 01:56 GMT
#894
@Node

Would you really not agree that if you don't want to draw too much attention to yourself and your post, you don't write something in it that will wholly differentiate you from everybody else in the game? Such as writing something as insane as "KISSES xx"? I am not saying that it is that easy, I am just saying that if he wanted to go unnoticed with his post then it would have been easy and he would probably not try to call unnecessary attention to it. Like you do by writing crazy stuff like that.

I think your argument for voting for Tackster is pretty bad and I also think that if Tackster flips green, something I consider very likely, then we will have gained absolutely nothing except maybe a clear scum read on sandroba. But I know another way to get a clear scum read on sandroba that will even give us more information if sandroba flips green than if Tackster does. We flip sandroba!
http://i.imgur.com/M7t7egx.png
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 01 2011 02:01 GMT
#895
@prplhz

Your argument for Tackster being town is not very strong. Node's for him being scum is actually quite strong. I also think that sandroba will flip green, and an information lynch is never preferential to a scum lynch. Therefore, I think we should be putting pressure on Tackster instead of Sandroba.

You are one of the few players I have a town read on. I think if you were on a mafia team your scumbuddies would be helping out your posting a bit more, rather than letting you bring attention to yourself with arguments like this one.
Varpulis
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
United States2517 Posts
June 01 2011 02:02 GMT
#896
On June 01 2011 10:56 prplhz wrote:
@Node

Would you really not agree that if you don't want to draw too much attention to yourself and your post, you don't write something in it that will wholly differentiate you from everybody else in the game? Such as writing something as insane as "KISSES xx"? I am not saying that it is that easy, I am just saying that if he wanted to go unnoticed with his post then it would have been easy and he would probably not try to call unnecessary attention to it. Like you do by writing crazy stuff like that.

I think your argument for voting for Tackster is pretty bad and I also think that if Tackster flips green, something I consider very likely, then we will have gained absolutely nothing except maybe a clear scum read on sandroba. But I know another way to get a clear scum read on sandroba that will even give us more information if sandroba flips green than if Tackster does. We flip sandroba!

WifoM. Stop using it as an argument. Why is sandroba red if tackster isn't, specifically? He's only mentioned him once, and it wasn't a compelling argument that really rallied the town to lynch him, just pointing out how bad the post was. Tackster flipping green would prove nothing about sandroba's alignment at all.

wrong != scum
For he is the Oystermeister, lord of all the oysters.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
June 01 2011 02:04 GMT
#897
On June 01 2011 11:01 chaos13 wrote:
@prplhz

Your argument for Tackster being town is not very strong. Node's for him being scum is actually quite strong. I also think that sandroba will flip green, and an information lynch is never preferential to a scum lynch. Therefore, I think we should be putting pressure on Tackster instead of Sandroba.

You are one of the few players I have a town read on. I think if you were on a mafia team your scumbuddies would be helping out your posting a bit more, rather than letting you bring attention to yourself with arguments like this one.

Lol. You really shouldn't paraphrase me in a game I'm in.
Life can only kill you once.
sinani206
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
United States1959 Posts
June 01 2011 02:05 GMT
#898
What's the point of flipping Sandroba? All he did was not think a plan through. He hasn't done anything else wrong. As someone else said, half the town jumped on him after he suggested the plan, so he had a reason to go inactive. He also said he wouldn't be near a computer much either. Cut the guy some slack.
literally everything is wifom just shut the fuck up
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
June 01 2011 02:07 GMT
#899
@prplhz Better yet, how am I red in the first place? Where is your reasoning for why I'm mafia? I'm still waiting on it.
chaos13
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada885 Posts
June 01 2011 02:08 GMT
#900
On June 01 2011 11:04 Jackal58 wrote:Lol. You really shouldn't paraphrase me in a game I'm in.


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