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On May 31 2011 13:27 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
He is there as he was a member of a mafia team directly coached by me. As such I interacted with him on a fairly decent level to know what he is capable of. One does not have to be a massively known vet to be good.
Yea I don't disagree with that just wanted to know your reasoning since db hasn't posted in the thread or been mentioned yet.
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*lies down*
[forgot to include that in the post :/]
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Yeesh this thread is ridiculous.
All right, after reading over redFF's posts I think that completely separate from his talk about his role (which is about the only thing that he has talked about for quite awhile) he's been largely useless. At the moment I'm unable to decide whether he's scummy or a bad townie, but I'm leaning towards the latter. So, I'm going to say this: RedFF, for the sake of the thread and the sanity of everyone in it, do more with less posting-wise. This is your only halfway decent post so far this game. I don't necessarily agree with the conclusions you're drawing there, but it at least shows a little effort towards things that actually matter.
I'm going to put my vote on hiro protagonist for now. He's been largely concerned with Amber's posting and role, and has quite a few posts in the thread, but has done nothing helpful for... anybody, really. Even his questioning of Amber was just treading over familiar ground that others had already done. He's threatened to try to lynch anybody that talks to Amber without asking him a question directly (I think? hiro can be hard to understand), but hasn't followed up on that statement. He's just dead weight at this point and until I see him do something solid I'm going to be suspicious.
On May 31 2011 13:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
BumatLarge
BloodyC0bbler
GMarshal
Meapak
Dropbear
Node
Jackal.
As of right now the list I have given should be the centered Zodiac list. You have all had your chance to talk about it and as no one has really done so there is the list. Everyone on it will have to be held carefully accountable for their actions. Most of us have a fair number of games behind us to give a decent interpretation of our play as town or mafia. Of this list, a few of us have appeared more town like than others.
Now before everyone goes "sweet dt's dont check here" think again, as you are horribly off.
Watcher or tracker style roles. This is the list you focus on. If we go out, if we get visited you want to know. It gives you the ability to connect dots of who is red and who isnt, who lies and who doesnt as time goes by,
Standard role or alignment style detectives your job is to sweep everyone who isnt on this list. Start with whoever is obviously playing suspectly.
Now, Medics, I will be posting a list closer to day end on what you guys should be doing. As of now there is not enough of a list for us to accurately center you on, nor do I really wish to give mafia a larger amount of time to discuss exactly how to deal with the list.
I'm willing to continue rolling with this.
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Hmmm well I'm going to bed. It occurred to me that it's unlikely both bum and bc are town simply for balance purposes. I'm not saying one of them is scum for sure but it would be really nice to know their alignments for certain seeing as they are the most experienced players in the game and it would be pretty imba if they were both town. Also for balance I expect one more person on the zodiac list is mafia. Again not saying there absolutely has to be a mafia there but it would be very bad balance wise to have all the zodiac players as town... meh maybe that's too wifom and speculation. I'm tired, I'm going to bed. Don't shit up the thread while I'm gone.
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@node:
yeah, sorry for my hard to understand posting. I will try and be more concise. As to your questions about me, I was as frustrated as anyone else about the spam. Most of my early post where of trying to get people to stop talking about roles,and start hunting scum.
Amber had given me indication that he wanted me to keep asking him questions, so thats what I did. I noticed to many other people talking about him. This frustrated me because It cluttered the thread with unhelpful post. That is why I said I would vote for anyone not asking Amber a direct question. So I stopped asking for now, as there are more important things to talk about. I might try again if Amber wants me to.
This thread is a nightmare to read back through. 
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Hey everyone, only just caught up.
First of all tnkted why the hell have you voted for Coagulation? This needs explaining.
Second I am intrigued by Palmar. I have no idea what to think about a bro but I'll keep a record of who he speaks to.
Attempted fistpumps that have been returned:
GMarshal
Node
tnkted
Attempted fistpumps that have been ignored:
Amber[Light]
redFF
BC, I like the idea of a Zodiac list but I am very surprised to see myself on it. The experience of everyone else on that list is more then ten times mine. I don't mind being on there but I'm confused as to why I am  The others are all good choices.
Scumhunting time!
I find the following people extremely suspicious:
kitaman27
tnkted
Torte de Lini
Tackster
Kita is following exactly the same pattern as XXXIX. He has not said anything at all except tell people to shut up and posting vague accusations. In games in which he has been town he contributes much more actively.
tnkted is posting extremely wierdly and I would very much like an explanation for the Coag vote.
Torte is reknowned for being a heavy poster and has only 3 or 4 so far. Sure he is only in his first game, but other newbies like VisceraEyes, hiro protagonist and Karshe have been up and about providing opinions and trying to help.
Tackster has already been done by Meapak and I am interested in him for the same reasons.
At this stage I am voting for kitaman27. He is capable of much much more than he has been contributing and is following the same pattern as last game.
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yo, guess I better reply to them questions people been asking me.
On May 31 2011 10:04 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:47 Palmar wrote:
Mig bro, Varp backed off the plan man, gotta cut a bro a slack.
Hey Palmar remember this post? What made you change your mind about "cutting slack"?
On it's own, a bad plan aint suspicious, it's only when coupled with all that other shit he's been pulling, the indecisiveness, the excuses and apologies, that I realized he should be checked.
You gotta be a dummy if you think my role has nothin' to do with the fistbumps, obviously they're a part of it yo. I aint going to roleclaim, but here imma be honest about some things.
- Fistpounds are self-only, they do not affect the bro doing the pounding
- I need them fistbumps to perform ma role, I really need at least one more
- don't read anythin' into which people I'm trying to bump me, and feel free to give me a fistbump without me initiating it.
Now yo all of course not gonna believe a bro is pro-town, but if you do, I could really use a fistbump more.
So can I get a fistbump for killin' you night 1 in snmm2 Karshe?
#fistpound karshe
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I might loathe myself in the morning, but with company like GM, Node and tnkted so far...
#fistpound Palmar
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there's a bro!
thanks man!
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ebwodp:
Consider that my way of saying gg for SNMMII
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KITAMAN27
He has been stomping on anyone who tries to get discussion going, starting with BC.
On May 31 2011 05:33 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:30 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
Gm isn't so bad as to instant rush to defend his mafia pal this fast into a game. At least, I would hope not. But BC is bad enough to instant rush to defend his mafia pal GM.
What is the point of this exactly? You never brought this up again. This is just spreading doubt for the sake of it.
On May 31 2011 08:08 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 07:36 kitaman27 wrote:
This thread is already way too spammy.
We don't need 5 pages discussing Amber's dog noises.
We don't need any further discussion of this "zodiac list" which allows people to post without contributing.
k thx. Next person that posts a list gets lynched.
Why? Posting lists gives a discussion point. It is much much more valuable than talking about Amber's caninity. Don't you want information to be out there? It's got everyone talking about alignments instead of roles. Do you have a problem with BC or something? The list is a starting point before scumhunting. It's much better than your starting point of a random vote.
On May 31 2011 10:22 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? meh mostly a random vote to get things started. Spammy, apologetic, and posting fluff. He tells town we should be looking elsewhere, without providing suspicions of his own. On an unrelated note, town should keep in mind that mafia has additional information than they normally do in this set-up since they know their own roles and the roles they have created.
So... you're voting without a reason. And no shit Mafia has extra information. Thank you Captain Obvious.
Kita has done nothing to help town. He is actively avoiding discussion and is jumping on someone who was active at the start of the game. He is Mafia and should be lynched.
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On May 31 2011 15:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
I might loathe myself in the morning, but with company like GM, Node and tnkted so far...
#fistpound Palmar
yo, was this wise?
i wanna analyze the fistbump shit a bit. we have no reason, first of all, to believe that
On May 31 2011 15:38 Palmar wrote:
- Fistpounds are self-only, they do not affect the bro doing the pounding
he's fistbumped some players that others have marked as good players. he could be setting up hit targets or protection. but that being said i'm gonna say that i believe him, because i want more to focus on the second point
On May 31 2011 15:38 Palmar wrote:
- I need them fistbumps to perform ma role, I really need at least one more
okay so he needs at least 4 fistbumps to do his role. does his role get better if he gets more? are these people he's investigating (maybe a panty-raid sort of fratboy related role?) or something? is he a town-drunk type role, but he needs to get at least 4 people to party with him (and he blocks all of them)? if it's a town-blocking role, he went after good players for a reason - he's mafia. if it's an investigative reason then we've potentially given him a TON of info for free. i'd suggest against fistbumping more til we can get some info
with all that in mind, if he IS an investigative role, and he flips mafia when he dies, i think we can clear at least these four people because he obviously wouldn't need to bump his mafia bros. of course we can't ACTUALLY clear them because WIFOM etc.
but what if the stipulation is that he needs fistbumps from people of the opposite faction to get his thing to work? then can we clear them? yes. but obviously we won't know this info until later.
i mean if he's town and he has a valuable role we obviously wanna be fistbumping the shit out of him, but i think without knowing his alignment, enabling him to do his role (which is probably pretty strong if it has in-thread requirements before he can do it) is really risky.
this is not an FoS on VisceralEyes or Palmar, btw. just some musing
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I might regret it, but I wouldn´t be me if I wouldn´t take a risk if it feels right.
#fistpound Palmar
Let your power explode!
So yeah, I have put marks down in the thread and will be back shortly after reading more indepth.
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Hi!
Yeah, I've been posting everywhere else, just not here. Not quite sure what to say or do~
Like... today's Day 1 and we're just prodding and poking hoping someone slips up (somehow). What have we figured out so far? We have a favored dog who can't say or do anything (so basically we're playing 20 questions with a canine) and uh... someone quick to role-claim when under very little pressure (right?).
The rest is just people trying to lift the blankets off guys like me who have no idea what to do :B
I don't really follow or consider the ideas of posting "fluff/pointless" stuff to be anything worthwhile or notable yet, so there's not much for me to lead with or get an idea for.
Doesn't help that I barely know any of you guys.
So uh... I know this is a moot point, but how do we know the dog is on our side, can there be a neutral alignment in this game too? I might be bringing up a silly idea, but trying to throw some thing out there to consider or of worth.
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tnkted
tnkted has a vastly different activity level from before the Day 1 post. He has 12 posts before the game begins for real and only 9 after. None of them really provide any input at all.
On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote:
I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember?
For now, lets all stop #fistpounding. We don't know what palmer's role is, and if it has something to do with the poundage he's been getting, lets keep it as low as we can get it.
Now, since we have a bunch of noobies in the game, I'll say something I always say to noobies: Be suspicious of people that appeal to their reputation. By this I mean that if you got bumatlarge telling you to drop your line of inquiry because he's the fucking batman, you should be more suspicious, not less.
Not that I expect that to happen this game, but its always good to mention.
What does this even mean? You don't expect it to happen but it needs mentioning? This is just clutter.
On May 31 2011 07:59 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote:
I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember?
For now, lets all stop #fistpounding. We don't know what palmer's role is, and if it has something to do with the poundage he's been getting, lets keep it as low as we can get it.
Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 07:22 tnkted wrote:
I don't think amber can #fistpound, palmer... he can't write anything but dogtalk remember?
<3
Stop fistpounding, yet fistpound lol.
On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward.
This includes you buddy.
On May 31 2011 09:06 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:56 bumatlarge wrote:On May 31 2011 08:29 tnkted wrote:
This varp wagon is a bad lynch. Look, he came up with a plan... it might be a stupid plan but thats seriously more effort than anyone else has put forward. Deflecting without giving an alternative. Check! Lol, ok, fair enough. I think we need to set up a system of balances in this game. The chances of the mafia being unlucky enough to have given each others roles is very slim. Therefore I propose this: If somebody claims in the thread, whoever gave that role needs to look at the claim carefully. If it lies or is an entirely different role, announce you gave that person the role in the thread. This way we can catch fakeclaims. However, this won't be very effective later in the game because the people who gave the roles will be dead, and the possibility of fakeclaiming will be much less likely. For example, I'm much more inclined to trust redff1's roleclaim if nobody claims today... since everybody will read it and the real person who gave Red's role will undoubtedly counterclaim. tldr; if your person claims a fake role in thread, say so. otherwise stfu and let them be.
Ok so let me get this straight. Noone should question a roleclaim for any reason unless they are the person who gave them that role. Well that's gonna work great when everyone is dead, you said it yourself yet still advocate it. Not only that, role picking is specifically disallowed today so at least until tomorrow this idea is pointless.
Deconduo has advised against roleclaiming and unless it is crucial to do so in performance of your role it shouldn't be done.
On May 31 2011 10:40 tnkted wrote:
deskscaress, don't bother arguing with jackal, its pointless. hes gonna do what he wants regardless of what anyone else says.
And yes, this is extremely spammy for one of our games. generally we're a bit calmer.
also, LOL at people pointing fingers at me. This is going to be a very different game... my role gives me the opportunity to try a new style of play. woo!
#vote coagulation, in solidarity.
This needs an explanation. Now.
On May 31 2011 10:43 tnkted wrote:
Now, a post with actual content: I don't think any of the people voting for varp right now, (kita, bum, palmar) are scummy. I think this is pretty usual behavior for kita and bum, and palmar seems to have been caught up in the wagon.
This actual content post.... doesn't give any reasons for what they are doing. Are you accusing Palmar here or not? Why is his vote different to theirs?
On May 31 2011 11:00 tnkted wrote:So far, we have the following data: 1. Amber is some sort of dog with a tracker/watcher role. He should be protected/bussed out of harms way tonight. 2. redff1 has a mason role. Also worth protecting. 3. Palmar has some sort of bro role. I think I have an idea what thats about, but I'ma stay mum until we know more. 4. I have some reason for not being afraid of getting killed. Hmm....... As far as that goes, I think our best bet for a lynch today is................ Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:54 sandroba wrote:
Alright every one seems to dislike the first part of my plan, but no one has commented on policy so far. The first part which we claim what player got our role is just to make policy easier.
Either way I say we policy lynch ANYONE who lies about their role. Town has very little reason to lie about their role while mafia has a lot of reasons.
What are you guys' opinions about this? This is precicely the same plan I posted. The following people acted in a scummy way in response to it: Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 09:37 hiro protagonist wrote:
anyone who is not asking Amber a detect question gets my vote immediately! any other talk is just filler and does not help, SO DON'T DO IT. We have two suspects in the form of Vamp and tnkted. talk about that!
@kitaman: why do you suspect Vamp? Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:47 Mig wrote:
I am gonna toss my vote onto tnkted for now. He has been floating through the thread without contributing much, which is true for a lot of people right now, but then as soon as he is criticized by bum he throws out a 5 paragraph plan which isn't even really a plan so much as it's just common sense. Maybe it is just unfortunate timing for him but it looks a lot like someone over compensating and attempting to appear town after being pressured.
more coming after the break, i have to go move furniture.
Sorry your plan for lynch is...........??????? How is anyone supposed to be able to tell who has lied about their role on the first day? There have been no night actions of any kind yet. You are basically just accusing people who accused you first.
On May 31 2011 10:46 tnkted wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:43 chaos13 wrote:
tnkted, what reason do you have for your vote on Coagulation? How about the fact that he isn't playing? Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 10:43 bumatlarge wrote:
tnkted is a much better candidate I do believe so yes quite. *yawn*
How about you actually defend yourself? How about you explain why you vote Coag?
Mate you have had wierd exchanges with Palmar so many times it's ridiculous. I'm willing to bet one of you two is Mafia and I'd run with you. Something extremely fishy is going on with you and Bumatlarge as well. You aren't really doing anything to help and are my secondary candidate.
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Torte de Lini
Torte that last post was pure rubbish, you're number three. You are just regurgitating obvious things. You've already been given an explanation of what to post and instead all you talk about is Amber. This is complete misdirection.
You claim that don't know us and can't offer opinions. It is very easy to look back at our posting history and learn about us. Read old games. You spend enough time on here to do that.
It is obviously possible that there is third party, read the OP again. At this stage it is impossible to tell what the deal is with Amber so how about contributing other than bringing up the dog posts. I don't see a vote, I don't see an idea as to who we should lynch today, I don't see any comments on anything except "I'm a noob don't look at me."
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I have been sleeping over this and it´s bugging me.
So here´s the thing:
There are things we are not expecting(yes obvious).
We have 33 people and 33 roles. Yet Mafia have only 1 Kill per night.
A reasonable amount of people for scumteam would be somewhere around 5-9. This is not slightly off balance, this is "WTF is this shit?".
Looking at these numbers, I would refuse to play the mafia side, because of pointlessness.
So my take is that there is a huge area we don´t know shit about.
I could think of several options, but the point is, this is not helpful.
I just mean to say we shouldn´t be surprised to either
1) see people killing without actually having a killing role.
2) see that mafia team has a strong density of killing roles.
3) find out that we have a rather high number of neutrals(like upwards of 4)
Now this info alone is useless. However it would become more useful if we had an idea about the number of existing killing roles.
Come the next day I would suggest claiming whether or not one assigned a misinformation or killing role. Because killing and misinformation are the antitown traits we should get a grip on them.
In another instance, I reread kitaman27, chaos13, meapak, varpulis and cthsazsa.
None of them scream red to me after rereading.
Varpulis has been a bit erratic since before the game.
cthsazsa has been extremely short in posting. Nothing much to work with, other than added unusefulness.
chaos13 seems rather legit. Other than asking why Karshe paid attention to his list, talking about the only person on the list he knows, there has been nothing odd.
Meapak was maybe a bad call by me to check in the first place. Without any meta knowledge I´d say he looks 100% ok. Then again, people often use past games to judge veterans and I didn´t.
Kitaman27 on the other hand is experienced and looks quite erratic. Rather short and unhelpful, while also very quick to vote. Unless some vets tell me that is normal, this is going down as scummy in my book.
His only longer post is about Mason roles in general. Everything else is short and choppy.
Barring an extraordinary defense, Kitaman27 is guilty in my eyes.
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EDBWOP:
I should doubleread y.y
Yes, one of those 5 people kinda screamed red to me. The moment I wrote that line I was not considering Kita specifically. Also the possibilty of Kita behaving like Ace clouded my mind. No one behaves like Ace all of a sudden.
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Hey all, glad to see the person I gave it to like my role, hope you use it well! As for my own role, guess whoever gave it don’t know me that well
In general a good amount of people need to put some more effort into their posts. When I’m short on time I’d much rather read 2-3 well thought out posts than pages of 1 liner back and forths. Meapak you started strong, I hope you won’t succumb to the spam as well.
To the people that thinks this is an experienced game, you are wrong. We are actually pretty low on vets, which the general posting standard is a testimony to. This is good news however, you don’t have to feel intimidated or new by the players here, use this to your advantage by having your own clear opinions and thoughts.
It seems like we got some people with posting restriction in the game, which is a disappointment in my opinion, since it limits the player not the character. However, this means you have to be more careful than usual using meta as an argument. If someone is posting strangely, you never know if they are acting in a certain way, or posting a certain amounts of posts because of it. Amber is best ignored for now, and as long as Palmar keeps contributing more than fistpumps, he can play this in any way he wants to.
BC looks town to me, he suggested a plan that was meant to generate discussion and provide reads, and even if it didn’t, he followed up on it with it without having to. Compare this to his play as godfather in mafia XXVIII, where he provided a list that did nothing more than call attention to himself and other vets: + Show Spoiler + On July 18 2010 05:09 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
The game of Mafia has begun, and its time we get it going properly.
Some decent idea's have been laid out and we can consider them viable.
We have a few basics to remember in a setup like this. Trust no one. For all of the newer players. Stay out of PM land. If by god you go there, please only do so after the person your talking to has been confirmed. The chances for a minor slip up is enough to get you sniped if your blue, or give out information that you may have if you have it.
Secondly, we should set up potential lists of people to watch out for until they can be confirmed. I would start with
BloodyC0bbler
Foolishness
DTA
YoungMirii
Citizen
I believe us 5 should be under the most scrutiny at the beginning of this game.
Next we need medics to protect intelligently. Protect people you think will get hit. Analyze what people are saying then think if its something that would warrant mafia hitting them. IF so, put them on a list. Do this a few times and you have yourself a medic list to protect off of.
Next, day 1 lynch we have a few options
a) vote for the most inactive player
b) Vote for someone to RNG a player then vote on them
c) Vote for someone whos scummy (bad idea)
Now, with that all said and done, Lets get this party started.
DropBear I like the effort you put into analysis, just be careful with posting too many at a time, it clutters up the thread and make people stop reading them. Kitaman is a hard person to read with a lot of short posts as town, I wouldn't put him as mafia just yet.
On May 31 2011 10:54 Jackal58 wrote:
And while we're at it. Hey Barundar. It's summer league now. I bowl on Wednesdays.
Good to know, wouldn’t want to call you town just because you posted on Tuesdays  . Good to have you back!
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On May 31 2011 09:17 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:
HOLY FUCKING SHIT WHAT HAPPENED TO THIS THREAD.
Speaking of lynches I'm a little concerned with the group of people who are voting Varpulis. I haven't played a game with him so if this is a meta vote I'd love an explanation. Otherwise I haven't seen him do anything overtly scummy. I'm personally going to wait a bit before placing a vote. I have some suspects but I'm going to see how they act a little longer + read the thread again before persuing them.
This most definitely is a meta vote meapak bro, just check my analysis, and I stand by that shit.
check it:
+ Show Spoiler +On May 31 2011 08:23 Palmar wrote:Woah, that bro sure got some explainin' to do. Ya feel me? He's playing like a bitch, and not a man. Let's keep it real VarpuliS, look at these posts from early SNMMI + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2011 05:19 Varpulis wrote:
Alright, just got back! Read through the thread, and from what I can gather, everybody either wants to
a) Lynch an inactive player because he might be lurking scum/ because he won't be helpful later on.
b) Wait to see how things play out.
I think we should pressure lurkers, but put the votes towards suspicious characters once we get the lurkers talking. On April 16 2011 06:27 Varpulis wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 23:19 sandroba wrote:
That makes no kind of sense whatsoever. How is me saying losing townies is a bad thing makes me scum? I'm obviously town. The idea of lynching inactives is really just to make sure everyone post enough so we can get a read on them.
Also attacking the one doing analisys on you is not good town play. That's called OMGUS from what I've read. If you really are town then you should either defend yourself or make a case of someone you think is scum (a decent one, not the nonsencical one you've posted) so you can actually help town.
I also have no connection with forumite and I fail to see how you could possibly have drawn this conclusion. And to say it doesn't matter if he posted that before or after he got PM'ed is just LOL.
You are looking more and more like scum to me. This is a scummy post. He gets defensive and says two scummy lines, which I bolded. Not sure if it's just defensive posting because Zorkmid called him scum or an actual scumtell, but it's suspicious. I highly doubt that Forumite is scum though, so I might just be overanalysing. Zorkmid's schtick about Forumite being scummy because he' busy over the weekend is bullshit though. Gotta take a note, these are first two posts from that game, this aint the VarpuliS we're seein' here today, hell naw, this bro got something fishy goin' on. He even does an analysis on a mafia, day 1, not afraid of nothin', that bro. I liked that man, he didn't take no shit from anyone + Show Spoiler +On April 16 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote:...And as promised, here is my analysis of Shcoleosis' posts. First post is a response to Eternalmisfit's suggestion to pressure lurkers Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:17 Shcoleosis wrote:On April 15 2011 11:12 Eternalmisfit wrote:
Btw I think we should lynch people who are inactive or lurking the boards as it is more likely that they are trying to stay under and radar and avoid suspicion on themselves by barely posting at all. Yeah, that seem logical. We don't want to kill innocent townies, though...It's the mafia we want gone! I highly doubt any mafia would be lurking or inactive when they have chances to kill. But who am I to say...I'm still learning :/ This bolded line is not scummy, it's just stupid. Mafia doesn't kill by talking, they kill by pm'ing GMarshal at night. Mafia needs to avoid drawing attention to itself to prevent themselves from getting lynched. This post in general is pretty worthless, ending with a line that is... strange. This is the first scumtell I can see. She basically says "don't listen to me, i'm new." Townies need to talk and be listened to, not ignored because this is their first game. Only mafia and blues benefit from being ignored, so unless he roleclaims, lets assume scum. Second post comes a little bit later. the post reads: Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky. This is a post which blends in. It says practically nothing, but appears to be a contribution. Blending in is not something a townie needs to do. +1 scum level. Finally, we've got lucky number 3: Show nested quote +On April 15 2011 13:01 Shcoleosis wrote:On April 15 2011 12:40 Zorkmid wrote:On April 15 2011 11:41 Shcoleosis wrote:
I'm sure getting rid of the inactive would make the lynching process easier, but I can't help but question the idea of getting rid of people unnecessarily. I'm thinking about it more, and I'm realizing that there's a chance the one we lynch is scum and there's also a chance that he or she might not be scum....no way to tell right now. Hopefully we'll get lucky. Why are you trying to protect inactives? Either they're not helping to scumhunt, or they are mafia. Let's hang em all ! Not trying to protect the inactive. I guess I just didn't really understand your logic well. But, hey, if it takes lynching the inactive to get rid of the scum, LET'S DO THIS! Lol Here, Shcoleosis basically says: "you seem to disagree with me... fine, you're right!" Agreeing with everybody else is something that two kinds of players do: - unhelpful townies -because they're just being sheep - mafia -because they're trying to blend in I don't want either in my town come lategame. Based off of this analysis, I'd like to start putting some pressure on Shcoleosis. Until a better target surfaces or she comes up with some good posts later on, I'll put my vote on her. ## Vote Shcoleosis But now, compare it to the worthlessness that is VarpuliS this game: Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:23 Varpulis wrote:On May 31 2011 05:22 chaos13 wrote:On May 31 2011 05:15 Mataza wrote:
Wait, how does Traitor even fit my initial description.
Town hates traitors and I can´t imagine people getting traitor being unsatisfied, no?
It is the exact opposite! Mole? I'm guessing something to do with either an alignment switch or an alternative win condition. Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:35 Varpulis wrote:
I think that we should claim not who we designed the role for, but what purpose the role has. This doesn't put the person with the role in any danger, and gives us a rough idea of what we have to work with. It could be as simple as
[ ] KP
[ ] Information
[ ] survivability (extra lives)
[ ] unlisted
check all that apply.
That's vague enough that nobody should be able to tell that they got the role that you're pointing out, but specific enough to be useful. I for one would like to know how many roles with DTesque powers there are.
thoughts? Silly idea from a silly man, we don't want to tell the mafia what kind of roles we designed, we don't need to give mafia info to work with man... Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 05:43 Varpulis wrote:
My plan could get fucked up bigtime by scum fake claiming, just like any other. I think that it's a better alternative to sandroba's plan, which I don't like.
Why don't we ditch them both? Neither is very good, I think. Later on, they could be more useful. Until crazy shit starts happening, i'm going to treat this like we're all vanilla, like Palmar suggested. Here he's just backing off cause y'know, this VarpuliS aint got no balls, now he just afraid like a little bitch. Then he goes on and tries to communicate with the dog for a while, that's just silly derailing, I ain't buying that shit. And then man, the worst of all... Show nested quote +On May 31 2011 08:05 Varpulis wrote:
I'm always a bit lost day 1, bum.
About the Zodiac lists: At this point they just seem to be lists of strong vets, and I don't know you guys well enough to make an informed list. BC has looked pro-town, as have you. Not really sure who else. Sandroba, maybe. he's proven to be a good player, and his posts have been mostly good, barring the claiming plan.
I'd like to know why specifically kita is voting for me. Is it because of my bad posting? I'll try to work on that. Specifically, I'm going to be quiet, because I'm not really sure what to do.
what does NoC stand for? A goddamn excuse? A real man, a man that aint got nothin' to hide just sticks to his guns and grabs his balls of steel and says, yo, look, I'm smarter than you bro, so just shut up. No, this bro aint no baller, this bro is a damn scum.
I aint backin' down until I see some good contribution and less crap from that bitch.
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