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On June 15 2011 05:32 redFF wrote:
that would work except i said you were scum before you said there could be a miller lol. Even if what you were saying is true, you mentioned millers, i called you scum, that doesn't make me automatically scum lol.
Flat out lie.
this came before this
So, you fell for my trap, are now lying about it and better yet, denying the strength of the trap.
Caught you! ^_^
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On June 15 2011 05:34 redFF wrote:
Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle.
Not at all, I'm too busy defending myself from baseless accusations, and steff thinks I'm going to kill him so has no reason to chat. (I'm probably not going to kill him btw)
Stop changing the topic, scum.
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EBOP, first this was a broken url
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Some things that everyone seems to be getting wrong here:
- Lynching Wiggles DOES NOT qualify as town points because it was pretty damn obvious.
- Lynching Palmar DOES NOT qualify as scum points because Palmar derped and decided claiming assassin was a brilliant idea, effectively placing him along bum in the confirmed scum category. There, the logical thing to do was lynch Palmar because he would likely have more KP.
- Any lynches after this barely qualify for town credit because they were all fairly straightforward. The only thing that deserves town points is GMarshal stopping town from fucking up and lynching Barundar (when lynching Jackal was clearly the better move). Ask yourself, why would a mafia GMarshal do that?
- redff, you HAVE been outing DT's carelessly and needlessly. After I told you my results, you instantly went into the thread to say that Torte de Lini was 100% mafia. Anyone with half a braincell could've figured out what happened. You revealed my role when there was no reason to because Torte de Lini could have easily gotten lynched.
Right now I agree with GMarshal on RedFF and DropBear. I don't see why everyone considers Amber so pro-town,but with him being hard to analyze I suppose they have a point.
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Nope, *your reaction* to me questioning the lists makes you scum.
I question the lists, you *immediately* had to devalue what I was saying by calling me scum, even if you didn't lynch me right off the bat, you couldn't allow me to focus discussion outside of the list.
The whole plan for you to win safely is to kill everyone on the list, after that happens you are almost assured to win. Its damage control, the list already fucked you over in part, so you might as well get some free townie kills out of the deal.
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On June 15 2011 05:47 Rean wrote:
Some things that everyone seems to be getting wrong here:
- Lynching Wiggles DOES NOT qualify as town points because it was pretty damn obvious.
- Lynching Palmar DOES NOT qualify as scum points because Palmar derped and decided claiming assassin was a brilliant idea, effectively placing him along bum in the confirmed scum category. There, the logical thing to do was lynch Palmar because he would likely have more KP.
- Any lynches after this barely qualify for town credit because they were all fairly straightforward. The only thing that deserves town points is GMarshal stopping town from fucking up and lynching Barundar (when lynching Jackal was clearly the better move). Ask yourself, why would a mafia GMarshal do that?
- redff, you HAVE been outing DT's carelessly and needlessly. After I told you my results, you instantly went into the thread to say that Torte de Lini was 100% mafia. Anyone with half a braincell could've figured out what happened. You revealed my role when there was no reason to because Torte de Lini could have easily gotten lynched.
Right now I agree with GMarshal on RedFF and DropBear. I don't see why everyone considers Amber so pro-town,but with him being hard to analyze I suppose they have a point.
You really buy his bs and think I'm scum. Rean i even sent chaos the huge post i made about TDL and asked for him to OK it and he did.
Original Message From chaos13: That looks excellent. All I would add at the end is calling for a vigi hit on him tonight. I think Palmar would be the best choice for killing him tonight, since bum and kurumi are supposed to be shooting each other tonight (lol) Show nested quote +Original Message From redFF: Here is my post on Torte de lini, tell me if its ok KK Torte De Lini, A couple of things about him. Firstly, we all know Torte is crazy active in the forums, and that he has been posting just as much as always the last few days. He's been streaming too so we know he is around and able to post/play. Lets look at some of his posts from day 1 On June 01 2011 05:51 Torte de Lini wrote:On June 01 2011 05:13 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:On June 01 2011 04:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
FoS Sinani
Sinani hasn't posted...like, ANYTHING. I'm literally picking up NO scum-reads at this point, and the analysis everyone else is posting is based on meta I'm not familiar with...so I'm going to pick on an inactive until something big happens.
##Vote sinani206 Wow this is a pretty scummy post. You're picking up no scum reads because all the analysis is based on meta? Read through the thread again, that is simply not true. Rather than read through the thread and trying to draw your own conclusions though, you're simply going to vote a complete inactive and wait for "something big" to happen. Veeery bad town play my friend. How is that scummy at all? I don't understand, to me it's just ignorance which is individual-based and not mafia or town oriented at all. Sounds both bad mafia and bad town in my opinion. This is no different than the original inquiries to people who were just posting fluff and/or pointless shit (this could be considered one). Bad town play, perhaps, but by default that makes one mafia? How many mafia players are in this game anyways? If anything I'd vote Kurumi, what with what was posted previously. It's not directed at anyone in particular and it seems to be just side-stepping after throwing up his hands in the air from his previous post:" Sure,then do something I can discuss about." That's all I really have to say to be honest, the rest I don't really feel warrants much input or views. I mean, you guys are extracting a lot of ideas over very little. Guess that's even less contributory from me D: I'm trying dammit D:< Shitty nothing post, terrible reasoning for voting someone, obviously hasn't really been reading the thread. I bolded his reason for voting, doesn't give any reasoning just says "because of what someone else said on him" lolololol. On May 31 2011 16:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Hi!
Yeah, I've been posting everywhere else, just not here. Not quite sure what to say or do~
Like... today's Day 1 and we're just prodding and poking hoping someone slips up (somehow). What have we figured out so far? We have a favored dog who can't say or do anything (so basically we're playing 20 questions with a canine) and uh... someone quick to role-claim when under very little pressure (right?).
The rest is just people trying to lift the blankets off guys like me who have no idea what to do :B
I don't really follow or consider the ideas of posting "fluff/pointless" stuff to be anything worthwhile or notable yet, so there's not much for me to lead with or get an idea for.
Doesn't help that I barely know any of you guys.
So uh... I know this is a moot point, but how do we know the dog is on our side, can there be a neutral alignment in this game too? I might be bringing up a silly idea, but trying to throw some thing out there to consider or of worth. Another crappy post. Repeating what has been said. STating the obvious. Emphasisinng how newbie he is and has no idea what is going on... On May 31 2011 08:37 Torte de Lini wrote:Wow, this game is so damn utterly fast and confusing. Does it tone down after Day 1? I hate the idea of not being to edit, so I'll just ask all my questions in one basket. - Does the posting speed tone down after Day 1?
- So... how do we figure out anything on Day 1 to eventually lynch someone?
- If saying fluffy and pointless things are bad, what are we intended to say?
- I like kitties better than doggies D:<!
Yeah i have to post something but I'm not gonna post anything opinionated or really anything useful at all. From Torte's day 1 posts we can gather that he refuses to post opinions and doesn't really want to get involved in doing any actual scumhunting. Now day 2 is where it gets a little more interesting. Firstly, somebody asks if he has a posting restriction. On June 04 2011 00:40 Karshe wrote:Torte, do you have some sort of posting restriction, or is your activity just low? Here's the list from Rean that you were talking about, it's on Page 75. + Show Spoiler +On June 03 2011 07:03 Rean wrote:A quick list of dead roles/last will etc so far, will update with claimed stuff and other information that has been claimed in the thread in a bit - Kurumi
- Karshe
- Mr. Wiggles
- deskscaress
"You are the Possessed. You're the materialization of a disembodied spirit!
You are capable of murdering someone with your bare hands, but that person will be chosen at random and you can only do it once.
If you are lynched, the last person to vote for you will immediately suffer a painful death.
If you are killed, the killer's alignment will be revealed to everyone.
"
- GMarshal
- Palmar
- Eternalmisfit
- sandroba
You are the Painter. You're an artist, a man of creativity and come from a river of wit and inspiration. Each night you can paint any other player to another role you see fit. As a painter, your works are only 2-dimensional, they cannot come to life and thus any person you paint as a different role, doesn't mean they actually play that role, they just appear as that role when investigated.
- chaos13
- kitaman27
- Kenpachi
- Tackster
- Varpulis
You are the Police Chief. You have day and night abilities, but you must choose which one to use. You are limited to one action per cycle. You may only use each ability once, but if you use all five you may start again.
At night
-You can inspect any player, revealing their alignment.
-You can arrest a player and throw them in prison. This will roleblock them, but also prevent them from being actioned against.
In the day
-You can interrogate a player, finding out who they targeted the night before.
-You can set up surveillance on a player, this will allow you to see who visits that player the following night.
-You can order your forensics department to perform an autopsy on one of the players that died that night, they will scrub the body for evidence and be able to name one player that visited that person last night..
- tnkted
- hiro protagonist
- redFF
- sinani206
- Node
You are the Indie Rocker! As you have the best music taste in town, you don't need to get involved with the daily ramblings, and instead deal with problems yourself at night. You can get mad and kill people because of their terrible taste in music once per night.
However, your ego is pretty high. In case you haven't hit a mafia and killed him/her by day 4, regardless of your alignment, you will turn emo instead and kill yourself. Hey everybody,
If you're reading this, I'm dead. To save you the questions that would probably consume the thread for pages the way it's been going, I'm able to write this due to someone else's ability, not my own.
I shot prplhz. I figured that if both myself and BC find him as scummy as we do, it would be worthwhile. Sorry if he was town, but I stand by my decision.
Lynch bumatlarge over anyone and everyone else if he didn't kill a scum last night. I guarantee you town has more KP than it could ever need -- just look at my role, and imagine if there were only two more similar ones around somewhere. I know at the very least I gave a role with more than one KP. Plus, ask yourself, why would Batman "retire" if the Joker were dead but not the other way around? Nah, being SK is waaaaay too convenient.
I've reconsidered on chaos13 -- reading over his posts he's done less than I thought he did. This doesn't mean he's mafia or town, just don't spare him because I said he was town earlier. Lynch bumatlarge first.
Finally, Palmar is probably town, Varpulis is probably scum, Tackster is still probably scum (but if bum is scum, he's probably not), and GMarshal needs to post more.
KISSES XOXO,
Node
- bumatlarge
- Mataza
- Mig
- VisceraEyes
"You are the Veteran Zombie. You have been around the block. You've been in many other Team Liquid mafia games, and you've always managed to land a kill but not without getting yourself taken out.
Even though your destiny is to die to take another soul to the grave, you've learned a few skills to evade death. You have two lives and you are able to take another person of his choice with you if you get killed. Your ability activates automatically upon death"
- Amber[LighT]
- BloodyC0bbler
"You are the Goddamn Batman. You are the hero Gotham deserves, but not the one it needs right now. So the town hunts you because you can take it. You are a silent guardian, a watchful protector, a dark knight. Role-claming as Batman at any point of the game will get you lynched. However, since you are well disguised as Bruce Wayne, role checks on you come back as Playboy Millionaire.
Every night you go ahead and protect the first person being targeted by a KP. However, you are truly incorruptible and do not let scum die out of some misplaced sense of self-righteousness and thus protect that person regardless of their alignment.
Your Arch-Nemesis, the Joker, is bumatlarge. He knows who you are but can not cause your death. You may not reveal his role nor can he reveal yours. If he dies, you will retire from your life of fighting crime, satisfied that the city is safe."
- Torte de Lini
- Cthsazsa
- Barundar
- Meapak_Ziphh
- DropBear
- prplhz
You the Coward. You can survive a lynch once thanks to your fast legs and knowing every dark place in this town. You can also decide to leave your home at night once. Any actions that are attempted on you that night will be redirected to other people visiting you. If only one person visits you that night they will be told "You couldn't find Your target
- stefftastiq
- Rean
- Jackal58
Then as soon as it is asked, Torte jumps at his chance!!! On June 04 2011 00:48 Torte de Lini wrote:
I have a posting restriction. So what we can gather from his "posting restriction" is that he is allowed to say that he has one. So if he cannot post much during the day, why didn't he tell us this beforehand??? Also I don't think anybody has come forward and confirmed this restriction. Also if you had a posting restriction where you cannot post much why would a town player waste a post with one line??? He could have done some analysis and add on the fact that he has a posting restriction but nope he won't do that because he won't post any opinions on his reads because he is scum. FInally On June 03 2011 11:04 chaos13 wrote:
Torte, since you're here right now, do you think GMarshal is scummy? On June 04 2011 00:12 Torte de Lini wrote:
Palmar: I'm so confused, so much to read @________@! Palmar, can you kill people? If so: your penetrating hit can probably kill serial killers right? Can you confirm this for me, because then you can kill Bum or Kurumi. Save us a day of lynching them, right.
In fact is Palmar here? I am having trouble finding your posts dude.
I mean I guess it's pretty obvious that Wiggles is scum... so I know who I am voting for. But what do we do about
Oh and I wrote for Sandroba if that helps you guys, but everyone knows his role already D:
I need to find that list that was made awhile back.
Chaos13: No, not really, what did he do? I'm going to ignore how awful this post is and focus on the last part. Torte de Lini roleblocked GM last night. Why would you block someone you don't think is scummy??? BECAUSE YOU ARE SCUM
I am being 100% transparent and clear, there is no evidence for me being scum, and there is 2 goddamn votechecks both making GM very possibly scum, not to mention his huge increase in posting in the last few days, and being the main force in switching the lynch from Bum to Palmar.
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If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose????
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Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle .
We havent made any use of the circle - I just said it probably wouldnt be to nice to put me in the circle to kill a townie. Basicly because I logged on, saw I had a new Pm about been put in a circle, and the latest post in the gamethread was for him to sacrifice me!
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On June 15 2011 05:57 redFF wrote:
If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose????
You could squirm out of it, + by that point the game is at lylo, you need to force a single mislynch. Thats why I forced you to play your hand. If there is one mafia outside of db and you then you insta win.
Its your only bet to victory.
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On June 15 2011 05:59 stefftastiq wrote:Show nested quote +Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle . We havent made any use of the circle - I just said it probably wouldnt be to nice to put me in the circle to kill a townie. Basicly because I logged on, saw I had a new Pm about been put in a circle, and the latest post in the gamethread was for him to sacrifice me!
Alright GM if you said you weren't going to kill him why did you add him to the circle and not discuss anything with him through pm's? Seems a bit pointless really, wouldn't it be better to add someone you thought of as scum to the circle or someone you wanted to talk too?
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On June 15 2011 06:01 GMarshal wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 05:57 redFF wrote:
If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose???? You could squirm out of it, + by that point the game is at lylo, you need to force a single mislynch. Thats why I forced you to play your hand. If there is one mafia outside of db and you then you insta win. Its your only bet to victory.
On June 15 2011 05:06 GMarshal wrote:
There is no third mafia.
Alright blatant contradiction. After all you have said if you flip town I am dead lol, so me forcing a mislynch shouldn't be a huge problem.
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On June 15 2011 06:02 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 05:59 stefftastiq wrote:Steff how much have you and GM been pming each other since he added you to his pm circle? Have you guys had a lot of pro-town discussion? Has he given a reason for inducting you? Look at the timestamp for this post and tell me how much you guys have been making use of your pm circle . We havent made any use of the circle - I just said it probably wouldnt be to nice to put me in the circle to kill a townie. Basicly because I logged on, saw I had a new Pm about been put in a circle, and the latest post in the gamethread was for him to sacrifice me! Alright GM if you said you weren't going to kill him why did you add him to the circle and not discuss anything with him through pm's? Seems a bit pointless really, wouldn't it be better to add someone you thought of as scum to the circle or someone you wanted to talk too?
I've answered every PM he's sent me, he's been pretty afk though. I intended to pressure him to see if he was scum, but current events have kept me occupied, and basically determined who the other mafia is, no PM's required.
I'm willing to discuss anything he wants to talk about, but at this point the most beneficial discussion will take place in the thread
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On June 15 2011 06:04 redFF wrote:Show nested quote +On June 15 2011 06:01 GMarshal wrote:On June 15 2011 05:57 redFF wrote:
If the list dies and there are not 2 scum on it then won't town just kill me and i lose???? You could squirm out of it, + by that point the game is at lylo, you need to force a single mislynch. Thats why I forced you to play your hand. If there is one mafia outside of db and you then you insta win. Its your only bet to victory. Alright blatant contradiction. After all you have said if you flip town I am dead lol, so me forcing a mislynch shouldn't be a huge problem.
Which was the whole point, I don't think theres a third mafia, but its possible.
And I don't doubt the town's stupidity and ability to lynch the wrong person. You can be very persuasive when necessary redFF, so you'll just go to lylo after exterminating the list and push the lynch off onto someone else. its the only way you could hope to win, really.
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omg if you guys don't want to kill into the list then there is nothing that can be done to help you.
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why did you introduce steff to the circle gm?
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On June 15 2011 06:12 Palmar wrote:
why did you introduce steff to the circle gm?
I wanted to be able to pressure him in PM land to find if he was scum.
RedFF just made that unnecessary though ^_^
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Just finished an exam, to come back to seeing that I am the unanimous candidate thus far.
Doesn't that bother anyone? There are four possibilities and I'm the ONLY CANDIDATE? With absolutely noone arguing against it?
The only person who has actually laid a case is Marshal and his case is terrible.
steff is in no way confirmed.
redFF if you know something about Amber that we all don't you need to get it out in the open. At this late stage there is no point in hiding.
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On June 15 2011 13:39 DropBear wrote:
Just finished an exam, to come back to seeing that I am the unanimous candidate thus far.
Doesn't that bother anyone? There are four possibilities and I'm the ONLY CANDIDATE? With absolutely noone arguing against it?
The only person who has actually laid a case is Marshal and his case is terrible.
steff is in no way confirmed.
redFF if you know something about Amber that we all don't you need to get it out in the open. At this late stage there is no point in hiding.
Don't worry about it, I hear redFF's reason for voting for you is "GM is scum, LYNCH DB!"
And of course no one has made a case against you but me, they have DT's! Why would they waste their time *analyzing* anything, or giving reasons for their votes? Confirmed town, remember? No need to actually think.
But if you make the mistake of thinking, or analyzing, you are mafia and should be shot. No justification for shooting you required, mind you, just *bang*
I'm sorry, did I come off a *little* bit cynical?
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