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I don´t necessarily think trying to control is bad.
As far as I am concerned, there are 3 types of people.
Leaders, who have an opinion and a plan
Players, who have an opinion.
Sheep, who have neither.
Trying to get the situation under control so we can have uncluttered conversations is a good thing.
We should care more about bandwagonjumpers. Namely Giygas and Karshe.
Karshe may have jumped on the bandwagon so late that it passes by unnoticed, but he said he sounded sure Giygas is town and I am mafia.
After he noticed the bandwagon was dead, he instantly dropped suspicion on me and now wants to lynch inactives. By now I am pretty sure that no mafia is inactive, but instead very outspoken.
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edit: He said he is sure/ he sounded sure.
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@prplhz
No, I pointed out several inconsistencies in that post that I'd like you to answer.
First of all, you called me out for 'pulling a 180' regarding Mata and voted for stefftastiq, an inactive non-poster who isn't helping town. And then what do you do? You cast your vote for an inactive non-poster who isn't helping town.
Not only that, you find the fact that I no longer find Mata suspicious. But nearly 40% of that post was talking about how you...no longer find Mata suspicious.
I guess you have no comment on these very clear cases of contradiction?
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My original vote but this time in bold. Apparently that's how you do it right.
##Vote Skrammen
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EBWODP
Also I find it interesting that the reason you gave for not commenting on things I said was that I just didn't agree with you. Yet the majority of the things I said were places where I point out where you AGREE with me...and you're most suspicious of me.
As Mata said...Maf is most likely active and outspoken. I'm not wasting time on inactives.
##vote prplhz
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The hell?
You really think Skrammen is the best lynch? I can´t get my head around how anyone can think that.
Also purples reasoning for that sounds a lot like giygas reasoning.
He has posted only 2 paragraphs and already votes. Sounds eerily familiar to me.
Especially if you consider that Giygas is just voting on some random inactive person and trying not to slip up. He is so silent all of a sudden.
And yet prp agrees to vote some random inactive dude. Wtf?
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I'm silent cause there's nothing to say. Why else?
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EBWODP:
Mata, at the beginning of the game, you said the Mafia is likely going to lay low. Talk about 180, now your saying they've all already been quite outspoken...
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I said in the beginning of the game mafia should lay low, so they speak up and do mistakes.
It was a taunt and it was intentional. It´s the fear of being catched.
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Viscera, I know prp behaves strange and inexplicable right now, but we are at risk that the mafia is able to decide the lynch.
DeepBlu2
Palmar
prplhz
VisceraEyes
Skrammen
Giygas
prplhz
GiygaS
DeepBlu2
Mataza
Skrammen
If I did not mess up counting(I used all my 10 fingers too) a last minute switch to skrammen could cost us the lynch.
You should be aware what could and probably will happen if we spread the votes too thin.
prplhz will be top priority for the cop tonight, if we have a cop, that is.
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Under 3 hours till modkills everyone. CAST YOUR VOTES. Seriously, the Mafia wins if everyone dies cause they didn't vote.
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@Mata
Unless 2 Maf are already voting for Skrammen. >.> <.<
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EBWODP: Yeah, that is the correct votes right now.
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If we were mafia, why didn't we target Deepblu? Then it would have been even. :/ The point is, we're not.
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On May 18 2011 06:20 prplhz wrote:
So I'm asking everybody (and that include you, person who is reading this now) to post who they would like to get lynched on day2 in case they themselves will get assassinated during the night. I think that I might be a target (hoping for a cute nurse to help me out though!) so this is probably quite relevant. This will be great for town, we can have you analytical skills readily available for day2 even if you get killed during the night!
prplhz...
Why do you keep doing this man, most everything you post is fairly well structured and useful, and then you throw in some random comment that's basically useless for the town, and even directly harmful.
I don't really give a shit about all the stuff VisEyes said, he's just building straw houses like he's been doing all game. I don't mind that at all.
But this one quote really requires explanation. Why would you ever ask for doctor protection? That simply doesn't make sense from a logical point of view. I'll explain why...
Scenario 1: You're green town
You should _never_ ask for protection as a green townie. Your death during the night is great success for the town, because no blue role was harmed.
Scenario 2: You're blue town (and thus cop, since none of the possible setups have 2 docs)
Mafia _immediately_ knows the setup now (since they already know if they have a roleblocker or not). If they have a roleblocker, they'll just roleblock you, and if they don't have a roleblocker, they know there is no doc in the setup... so they just kill you.
Well you might be meta-gaming hardcore... trying to reverse trick the mafia into going for you, and thus dying as green. But there is a term for lynching anyone that lies during the game (lal - lynch all liars). Lying is a big gamble for the town...
I think the biggest possibility is that you simply didn't think this through well enough, so I'd like to you to publicly renounce your request for doctor protection.
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On May 18 2011 07:41 Mataza wrote:
Karshe may have jumped on the bandwagon so late that it passes by unnoticed, but he said he sounded sure Giygas is town and I am mafia.
After he noticed the bandwagon was dead, he instantly dropped suspicion on me and now wants to lynch inactives. By now I am pretty sure that no mafia is inactive, but instead very outspoken.
I haven't bandwagon'd anyone, including you. I still have suspicions that you are mafia, I have not dropped anything at all. However, what I have said is:
On May 18 2011 05:18 Karshe wrote:
I have a low tolerance for inactive players. I am still very suspicious of Mataza, but I would much rather have him in the game and posting consistantly compared to someone who posts once in this thread and once in the vote thread.
Lynching an inactive poster may not give us very much information on Day 2, but I believe it will help us in the long run because we will have more information to dissect from active players in future days.
I would rather vote an inactive who isn't contributing anything to the fun/game at all, rather than someone (you) who I believe to be shady but at least is actively participating. I have already stated why: we may have less information on Day 2, but more information in the future.
To answer purplehaze's question from earlier, if I had to pick a Day 2 lynch right now, it would be Mataza. I feel like you're trying to derail every lynch attempt, and you yourself have said:
On May 18 2011 02:01 Mataza wrote:
Common sense: Active mafia will try to disrupt town conversation.
I still question your motives as well. So far you have been quoted as saying "Mafia will try to lurk!" while being the most active poster, and now you're saying, "Mafia are bandwagoning! By the way, I have never bandwagoned!" *wink wink nudge nudge*
I am about to leave for work, I will vote for an inactive in 30 minutes when I get home if they have not posted yet.
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@GiygaS
I'm pretty sure prplhz can speak for himself...unless he just doesn't need to cause you're on the same informed team. 
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@Viscera: I meant we as in "If we were together" which was indeed the hypothetical scenario.
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Dumb EBWOP, but I meant, I am leaving from work, to home. =P
Be back in a bit.
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Going to be leaving until after the vote. Peace!
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