EPTOn May 11 2011 01:03 sandroba wrote:
He's saying ilovejonn.
He's saying ilovejonn.
My bad.
If EternalMisfit is building a case against sinani206, and both are on the list, what does that make those two? Both scum or one of each?
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My bad. If EternalMisfit is building a case against sinani206, and both are on the list, what does that make those two? Both scum or one of each? | ||
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DropBear
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GGQ, among his short number of posts, directly accuses Redtooth and casts doubt on myself, kitaman27 and orgolove. On May 06 2011 04:04 GGQ wrote: I'm keeping my vote on Kurumi for now, but I'd also support a lynch on redtooth. He is defending Kurumi and Irish, the two most likely to get lynched today. This strikes me as scum play because a townie would be trying to get scum lynched, not trying to defend both people who are up for lynching. It's likely that all three are mafia, or perhaps that redtooth is mafia and the other two are town so he'll get town cred when either of them flips. Add in that he also is trying to discredit one of the stronger voices in this game with a whole bunch of WIFOM, and I see a pretty strong case against him. First calling out of redtooth. On May 06 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote: This post rings some bells in my head. There was no need for a PbP analysis here, you just needed to tell Lyter to post more and explain his vote. Doing a PbP in this instance feels like an attempt to gain townie cred for nothing. Here he casts doubt on me. On May 07 2011 14:06 GGQ wrote: It's late and I don't have time to catch up on the thread right now, but I was roleblocked last night. My FoS is still on redtooth for now, I'm not sure if his big rules thing makes him seem more innocent or not, I'll have to go over it more carefully tomorrow evening. Still on redtooth. On May 08 2011 10:10 GGQ wrote: Dont lynch for information, it just leads to endless wifom. If we lynch redtooth it's because we think he's scum and that's all. His day 1 posts gave me a scum read, his actions since then haven't saved him in my eyes, but haven't made him more guilty either. I'm willing to give him some more time. He posts a lot, anyways, so if he's mafia he'll give himself up. Cthazsa seems to be a lot quieter now than he was on the first day, and I can't explain why. He responded with lots of posts to jackal's pressure, but now he's gone afk because of the pressure today? Maybe just because he's now a viable lynch target? His actions seems scummy enough, but I never got that vibe from his posts. I'd like to see an analysis by someone I trust more than redtooth showing him as scum. Amber seems the scummiest to me from his posts so far, but there just aren't that many of them. Amber, if you were a dayvig and had to use your power to avoid a lynch, who would you shoot? Not sure what he's saying about redtooth here? He does attack orgolove though. On May 08 2011 11:38 GGQ wrote: And all you're doing is vaguely questioning people. Post something solid. Is this casting doubt on kita? It's kind of vague. I'd like to think this is evidence to clear me, but it isn't really solid. I'd also like to think it clears kita, redtooth and orgolove as well but I'm not so sure. | ||
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GGQ doesn´t clear either DropBear, Kitaman or orgolove, he disagrees with them all, but no strong FoS against any of them, at least I didn´t find any. . | ||
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On May 11 2011 01:24 Forumite wrote: My bad. If EternalMisfit is building a case against sinani206, and both are on the list, what does that make those two? Both scum or one of each? sinani is possible scum as well. I am at this point tied to EM. I seriously hope I'm right about you man. I have accused ilovejonn and sinani. EM has accused sinani ilovejonn accused EM Who has sinani accused? kevconsim/Impervious. That's it. There's this too. On May 09 2011 11:49 sinani206 wrote: Wait what? A six person swing vote? Aren't there six mafia? Is it really feasible for the entire mafia team to be on the Cthazsa train? I'm not so sure. Surely they'd have one person off it just in case it went bad? Sinani was on kevconsim/Impervious instead. At the moment everyone is letting us fight it out regarding ilovejonn and sandroba v me and EM. This whole argument has had very little input from others so far.... only Mig and kevconsim/Impervious have weighed in at all. Sinani himself has gone quiet. Maybe I should switch to sinani206 and see who comes out to defend him... oh fuck I don't know. | ||
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On May 11 2011 01:32 Forumite wrote: @DropBear GGQ doesn´t clear either DropBear, Kitaman or orgolove, he disagrees with them all, but no strong FoS against any of them, at least I didn´t find any. . Yeah I know I said in the post is isn't solid enough. The one closest to an FoS is on me. On May 06 2011 04:08 GGQ wrote: This post rings some bells in my head. There was no need for a PbP analysis here, you just needed to tell Lyter to post more and explain his vote. Doing a PbP in this instance feels like an attempt to gain townie cred for nothing. | ||
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On May 11 2011 00:39 Impervious wrote: Analysis of kitaman27 Verdict: Suspicious. Reason: His list for scum includes 2 confirmed scum, a confirmed town, and redtooth. The scum on his list were heavily lurking, and were also identified by other people before this point, so he didn’t really bring much info here. Especially since one was mod killed due to inactivity. I’m really not sure what to make of it. I'm not really sure how this post is scummy. I also believe I was one of the first people to bring up Amber and pressure him to post on day one. On May 11 2011 00:39 Impervious wrote: When it came time to actually lynch on Day 2, he was very resistant to switching to Amber. At least, until chaoser claimed DT. Then he switched immediately. Could easily be a bus. However, this post really stood out to me when I first read it: After switching his vote almost immediately, he suddenly put up some resistance? That seems really, really weird for someone who’s played more than a few games of mafia. Anyone with a power role needs to take advantage of their role as much as possible, and if you’re town, hindering that plan is a bad move. And it’s quite clear that chaoser had a plan from that post. I thought that "I'll explain after" post was in response to this one: On May 09 2011 11:20 DropBear wrote: Ok, this changes things. What role did he come back as? There are millers as well, but I'm much more inclined to vote with you now. When in actuality it was in response to this one: On May 09 2011 11:20 redtooth wrote: We are definitely going to fumble this lynch. What the hell were you doing? Fuck and I was going to let you off the hook if Irish got modkilled since you called my bluff. This game is absolutely ridiculous and I am REALLY not happy. At the time, it made no sense for the dt to not reveal what he found. If you continued reading a couple posts later, you would see once he posted the role he found, I realized I misunderstood: On May 09 2011 11:26 kitaman27 wrote: Oh I read that in the wrong order. I thought you weren't going to explain what role he came back as >.< Kinda seems like you are grasping at straws Impervious. The fact that no one has done an analysis on irish or Amber post death is weird, so I'll do that in a couple minutes. One thing I have to say is what is with these random vanilla town role claims? DropBear, someone looks at you the wrong way and you spill the beans? What's up with that? | ||
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On May 11 2011 01:39 DropBear wrote: Yes, it is a FoS, a weak one though. PbP analysies are ALWAYS the way to go Yeah I know I said in the post is isn't solid enough. The one closest to an FoS is on me.  On May 11 2011 01:35 DropBear wrote:oh fuck I don't know. And neither do I. IMO EM remain a better target than DB | ||
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On May 11 2011 01:51 kitaman27 wrote: One thing I have to say is what is with these random vanilla town role claims? DropBear, someone looks at you the wrong way and you spill the beans? What's up with that? Well because I fucked up my analysis. I'm claiming to try and clear myself. On May 10 2011 16:32 DropBear wrote: I seem to have misplaced some bits in my analysis. "an interesting exchange with kitaman27" is supposed to be after "here is some explanation of voting for voting Beneather". "There has been some interaction between him and EternalMisfit" should have gone in the following post regarding ilovejonn. I was writing them up at the same time. Ok I went over it again. I did misinterpret the first line. The posting of the Ver bit was a mistake. I'm not mafia sandroba. I'm a vanilla townie. This was followed by orgolove's big data post pointing me as the number one target. Then I get a big accusation from sandroba, who is a confirmed townie. On May 10 2011 17:20 sandroba wrote: Man I can't believe this. DropBear is mafia. He says elmizzt is suspicious for interacting with EM and then says EM is town. LOL way to go DropBear. I'm saying this right now EM is mafia and so is DropBear. I'm also willing to bet that EM is Mafia goon and asked for a vig shot so we would not kill GGQ, the mafia RoleBlocker. Plus a push from orgolove. On May 10 2011 17:44 orgolove wrote: We can only lynch one at a time. Our targets converge on DropBear. Lets take care of the immediate threat first. I would imagine EM is claiming for the same reason, an accusation from sandroba who is pretty much confirmed town. | ||
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On May 11 2011 02:08 sandroba wrote: DropBear, did you read the analysis ilovejonn's made on EM? I posted a link to it some posts ago. I most certainly have. | ||
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sinani206 is either from another planet or scum. Either way he is useless. If he is not mafia, mafia is certanly not getting rid of him for us. We are going to have to lynch him sooner or later, but today is a very important day, since if we kill mafia their kp gets reduced. @Imprevious I've read all kita's posts and I'm not in the slightest confident in calling him scum. | ||
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EternalMisfit Ilovejonn Elmizzt | ||
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On May 11 2011 02:29 Forumite wrote: So you are saying that it´s like this? EternalMisfit Ilovejonn Elmizzt Drop elmizzt. The first bit of my analysis of him was a complete misread lol. Leave him for later, if at all. I believe: EternalMisfit is town and one of either ilovejonn or sinani is red. It's feasible for both of them to be. I'll vote for either. | ||
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On May 11 2011 02:29 sandroba wrote: I can see how ilovejonn can be scum and his analysis of EM and explanation for not voting for Amber are quite contradictory indeed. The thing is I'm having a hard time actually seeing a scenario where Eternal is not scum. sinani206 is either from another planet or scum. Either way he is useless. If he is not mafia, mafia is certanly not getting rid of him for us. We are going to have to lynch him sooner or later, but today is a very important day, since if we kill mafia their kp gets reduced. @Imprevious I've read all kita's posts and I'm not in the slightest confident in calling him scum. The other thing to take into account is experience. sinani206 is playing his first game. EM is a relative newbie. ilovejonn has been around for a while. | ||
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AirbladeOrange
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I'm not a big fan of the statistical analysis and using numerical values to determine one's scumminess. Maybe it's just because I hate math or maybe because I'm high on that list but certain things just don't seem to be a good indicator of how likely someone is to be mafia. Voting for town can just mean someone had a bad read, it happens to everyone. Changing a vote isn't scummy as long as the player provides a convincing reason for doing so. When they voted can just mean they wanted to see any developments that could happen before the day ends or they had other IRL things to do. I'm not sure where I stand on EternalMisfit. I think Sandroba is town and has gained a lot of town cred after the night. | ||
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