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sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:54 GMT
#1501
Let me point you to this post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=216644&currentpage=54#1061
sandroba
Profile Joined April 2006
Canada4998 Posts
May 10 2011 08:56 GMT
#1502
@Orgolove I'm not saying that. But if someone posts an intencionally faulty analysis they are mafia.
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 08:58 GMT
#1503
On May 10 2011 17:51 DropBear wrote:
Alright I've gone and fucked up this game. I apologise to everyone for playing shit. I am claiming Vanilla Townie.

I'm going to stick with the vote on ilovejonn. I don't even have confidence in myself anymore, but I've been looking at him since day 1.

I'm not going to post again for a bit. The last thing I will say is that if EternalMisfit does flip red and everyone tries to kill me next, when I flip green, look at kitaman27 (yay I think I've accused everyone by now) and elmizzt is clear. If EM flips green, kill ilovejonn and redtooth. There is still a godfather out there and they will almost definitely be an experienced player.

Rally around Sandroba. He is wrong about me and he may be about EM as well, I'm not sure, but he is definitely town. So is Cthazsa.


The biggest thing that went against you, in my view, is that you changed your vote 5 times (I actually missed one) It's not like you're unusually active compared to others too - and you really waited till the very last minute, only switching your vote to amber after chaoser fake claimed. In fact, just 10 minutes before chaoser's claim, you said you're backing Amber to the hilt....

I don't buy your claim.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
May 10 2011 08:59 GMT
#1504
Last thing. Whoever the Vigilante is who shot GGQ, you need to claim. You need to do it now. The only way to doubt you if you claim is if someone else does too, which narrows down another mafia. We have another confirmed townie when you claim.
Sucker for nostalgia
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:00 GMT
#1505
Either you're unusually brave and willing to take the risk that you might vote for a townie so many times, or you already have the information as a red and can vote with confidence.


Sigh. I need more data.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
May 10 2011 09:03 GMT
#1506
On May 10 2011 17:58 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 17:51 DropBear wrote:
Alright I've gone and fucked up this game. I apologise to everyone for playing shit. I am claiming Vanilla Townie.

I'm going to stick with the vote on ilovejonn. I don't even have confidence in myself anymore, but I've been looking at him since day 1.

I'm not going to post again for a bit. The last thing I will say is that if EternalMisfit does flip red and everyone tries to kill me next, when I flip green, look at kitaman27 (yay I think I've accused everyone by now) and elmizzt is clear. If EM flips green, kill ilovejonn and redtooth. There is still a godfather out there and they will almost definitely be an experienced player.

Rally around Sandroba. He is wrong about me and he may be about EM as well, I'm not sure, but he is definitely town. So is Cthazsa.


The biggest thing that went against you, in my view, is that you changed your vote 5 times (I actually missed one) It's not like you're unusually active compared to others too - and you really waited till the very last minute, only switching your vote to amber after chaoser fake claimed. In fact, just 10 minutes before chaoser's claim, you said you're backing Amber to the hilt....

I don't buy your claim.

I know. I even before that made a massive post explaining how I thought he was a blue. This backing to the hilt post was afterwards. I understand if you don't believe me but it's true.

Pretty sure I voted redtooth, then sandroba, then Cthazsa, then Amber. Which is 3 vote switches. Sandroba and Cthazsa were both for the same reason, in defence of Amber who I thought was blue.
Sucker for nostalgia
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:04 GMT
#1507
On May 10 2011 17:59 DropBear wrote:
Last thing. Whoever the Vigilante is who shot GGQ, you need to claim. You need to do it now. The only way to doubt you if you claim is if someone else does too, which narrows down another mafia. We have another confirmed townie when you claim.



If you really are a green, it does us no good to fall silent. Explain your thought process. Give us a reason to not vote for you. Come on man.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 10 2011 09:05 GMT
#1508
I agree with going after em before dropbear.

I think there's still a chance db is just an extremely overactive townie who has been trying too hard to do analysis on everyone and consequently hasn't always thought everything through before he posts.
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:06 GMT
#1509
Ah. I just saw your post.

Actually, from my records your votes were:

Day 2 player voted for
7-May 12:30 dropbear redtooth
8-May 14:20 dropbear orgolove
9-May 1:12 dropbear sandroba
9-May 11:15 dropbear cthsazsa
9-May 11:24 dropbear Amber[light]

초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:08 GMT
#1510
On May 10 2011 18:05 Mig wrote:
I agree with going after em before dropbear.

I think there's still a chance db is just an extremely overactive townie who has been trying too hard to do analysis on everyone and consequently hasn't always thought everything through before he posts.


Well. Elmizzt was the last vote to switch to Amber, just 5 min before the end. He didn't have that much activity, but also didn't contribute to the red's campaign against Cthsazsa.

If he's a red, he's an inactive red.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 10 2011 09:09 GMT
#1511
EternalMisfit not elmizzt
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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:18 GMT
#1512
Ah. I don't think I see anything that particularly stands out about him from the rest, from voting patterns. All his votes were non-critical. What makes you so sure?...

Oh, another thing - I wonder how DropBear knew that a vigilante shot chaoser, when the reds still have 2 KP?

If we flip DropBear, we will have much more data to go with.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:20 GMT
#1513
Ok. Nevermind. ignore that. That was stupid. Somehow I thought he said the vigilante who shot chaoser should come out.

It's getting way to late. I'm going to sleep. Ugh.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Forumite
Profile Joined February 2011
Sweden3280 Posts
May 10 2011 09:22 GMT
#1514
On May 10 2011 18:06 orgolove wrote:
Ah. I just saw your post.

Actually, from my records your votes were:

Day 2 player voted for
7-May 12:30 dropbear redtooth
8-May 14:20 dropbear orgolove
9-May 1:12 dropbear sandroba
9-May 11:15 dropbear cthsazsa
9-May 11:24 dropbear Amber[light]

Where does the other points on Dropbear come from?
:3
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
May 10 2011 09:27 GMT
#1515
On May 10 2011 18:04 orgolove wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 10 2011 17:59 DropBear wrote:
Last thing. Whoever the Vigilante is who shot GGQ, you need to claim. You need to do it now. The only way to doubt you if you claim is if someone else does too, which narrows down another mafia. We have another confirmed townie when you claim.



If you really are a green, it does us no good to fall silent. Explain your thought process. Give us a reason to not vote for you. Come on man.

Ok. These links show a few things, I hope I formatted them right. You are right I forgot about the switch to you.

I first suspected redtooth day 1.
Second post about suspecting him.
First post on ilovejonn.
I decided there was a link between ilovejonn and redtooth here.

Comment by kita about scum reacting to my night analysis
Post by redtooth shortly after kita's comment.
My first questioning of redtooth's big post on reorganisation
followed by this post and this post make me vote redtooth.

The switch to orgolove
is explained here.

Chaoser then starts going after Amber.
Reason for not voting for Amber is here
Reason of vote switch to sandroba is here
Switch to Cthsazsa is here.

I tied chaoser, sandroba and Cthsazsa together as mafia. They are tied together as town. The final switch was to Amber after Chaoser's roleclaim.

I fucked up the posting when I was doing the analysis on elmizzt and the post on ilovejonn v EM. I'm not sure on elmizzt anymore.
Sucker for nostalgia
Mig
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States4714 Posts
May 10 2011 09:33 GMT
#1516
On May 10 2011 18:18 orgolove wrote:
Ah. I don't think I see anything that particularly stands out about him from the rest, from voting patterns. All his votes were non-critical. What makes you so sure?...




I won't claim I am 99% sure like sandroba but his analysis when he was defending amber/attacking sandroba was poor. As for votes after the votes on amber reached 7 and tied for first 4 people voted for cthsazsa (GGQ, AO, EM, DB) I think there's a decent chance another mafia besides GGQ was in there as they tried to make sure amber wasn't lynched.

I will add tho I still believe that between kita/jonn/red one of them is the gf. But it's probably best to focus on trying to eliminate one of the easier to pin targets before we go after the gf.

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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:34 GMT
#1517
Day 1:
He voted for Beneather (confirmed townie) +1
Then he switched votes+0.5.

Total 1.5

Day 2:
Switched 5 times. I missed the first switch, so the points he got from this was:
Real first vote:
7-May 12:30 redtooth


"First" vote counted:
7-May 14:20 orgolove
no points

2nd Vote
9-May 1:12 sandroba
+0.5 from vote switch
+3 from voting one of the #2s when a confirmed red was leading
+5 from making the lynch a tie from a red leading lynch

3rd vote
9-May 11:15 cthsazsa
+1 from 2nd vote switch
(no other points gained, as at this point cthsazsa was leading the votes by 3)


4th and final vote
9-May 11:15 Amber[Light]
+1.5 from 3rd vote switch
-1 from voting on confirmed red
+2 from last minute bandwagon vote switch on a red that is confirmed to be lynched


Total Day1+Day2 13.5
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
May 10 2011 09:39 GMT
#1518
Hm. All right - I won't claim my effort as of now is 100% flawless, as after all, it's only dealing with two days worth of data.

It's really late - good night.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
May 10 2011 09:40 GMT
#1519
I believe i am the Vigilante?
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
DropBear
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
Australia4365 Posts
May 10 2011 09:42 GMT
#1520
On May 10 2011 18:40 Kenpachi wrote:
I believe i am the Vigilante?

Yay Kenpachi!

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