EPTTL Mafia XXXIX - Page 75
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
I just want to know why they come so far down. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
It's not like Amber was the godfather or even the roleblocker. Amber was just a mafia goon, and the reds were willing to lynch Cthsazsa over Amber... I think I can be very sure that Cthsazsa is town aligned. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself In the second = others That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it. | ||
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DropBear
Australia4390 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:28 sandroba wrote: If anyone is not convinced needs further analysis to vote for EM I will provide, but if you just look carefully at the analysis EM posted of me you can see how much bullshit it contains. I.E. I said "Amber[Light] is overly defensive" and said "Amber[Light] does not really defend anyone" and he claims this is contradictory. How is this contradictory? In the context it was said you can clearly see I refering: In the first sentence Overly defensive = himself In the second = others That's only an example of a clearly misleading analysis, you can find many in it. Can you link me to his analysis of you please? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
Those are EM and DropBear. | ||
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Forumite
Sweden3280 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:27 orgolove wrote: 10 out of those 17 comes from the fact that he came second to a red lynch, and all the high red-value players were willing to vote on him and see him through before the votes turned against them... It's not like Amber was the godfather or even the roleblocker. Amber was just a mafia goon, and the reds were willing to lynch Cthsazsa over Amber... I think I can be very sure that Cthsazsa is town aligned. Why do you take away 10p for something like that? There is nothing stopping Mafia from voting on eachother, in fact I think they do it all the time to throw us off. Anyway I´d like the whole total, not just where those 10 come from. | ||
Mig
United States4714 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:22 Forumite wrote: The simple fact that Cthsazsa was a strong lynchtarget the last turn, but show up as -17 (!) in the graph, tells us that this technique is unreliable at best. Well I think it should be pretty obvious at this point that Cthsazsa is town. I believe several of the mafia probably put themselves out there trying to get the lynch from amber onto cth, we already know GGQ did this. If they were both mafia I imagine the mafia would have just hung back or tried to come up with a 3rd lynch candidate. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:30 DropBear wrote: Can you link me to his analysis of you please? No, you are mafia. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:25 Forumite wrote: Orgolove, could you throw up the calculations that resulted in those numbers for the following players? Jaminz, MIg, Orgolove and Cthsazsa. I just want to know why they come so far down. Jaminz: day 1: +1 from voting for a confirmed blue +0.5 from voting within an hour of GGQ day 2: +0.5 from voting within an hour of GGQ -1 from voting Amber -3 from voting on a red when the lynch was on a non-red -5 from making the vote to change the totals from a non-red lynch to tie total: -7 Mig: day 1: +1 from voting a confirmed green day 2: -1 from voting Amber (confirmed red) -3 from voting on a red when a non-red is leading the lynch -5 from making the vote to change the totals from a non-red lynch to tie Total: -8 Orgolove (lol) day 1: 0.5 from changing vote once day 2: 0.5 from changing vote once -1 from voting a confirmed red -3 from voting on a red when a non-red is leading the lynch -5 from making the vote to change the totals from a non-red lynch to tie Total: -8 Cthsazsa: Day 2: vote on May 9th, 4:52 +0.5 from changing vote once vote on May 9th, 9:35 +1 from changing vote 2nd time +0.5 from voting within an hour of a confirmed red (GGQ) -1 from voting for a confirmed red -3 from voting on a red when there's a tie -5 from making the vote to change the totals from a tie to a red lynch adjustment -10 coming 2nd place in a closely fought red lynch | ||
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elmizzt
United States3309 Posts
LOL | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:28 Forumite wrote: Why does redtooth go from -9,5 in the first list, to 2 in the next, just by removing the changes after the DT-claim? He cast the critical vote right after dropbear that first moved the vote from a non-red lynch to a red lynch. Further, his vote was changed from Cthsazsa directly to Amber, which in and of itself is worth -6. | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
On May 10 2011 17:31 sandroba wrote: Orgolove, while I apreciate the effort and those calculation help us see somethings better, they are not our main tool for catching mafia. Mafia are those who are misleading the town on purpose. Those are EM and DropBear. Well, we can agree that Dropbear is a major target. Shall we vote for them, and ask the DTs to check EM, ilovejonn, or AirBladeOrange? | ||
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
We should focus on EM first. | ||
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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sandroba
Canada4998 Posts
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orgolove
Vatican City State1650 Posts
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DropBear
Australia4390 Posts
I'm going to stick with the vote on ilovejonn. I don't even have confidence in myself anymore, but I've been looking at him since day 1. I'm not going to post again for a bit. The last thing I will say is that if EternalMisfit does flip red and everyone tries to kill me next, when I flip green, look at kitaman27 (yay I think I've accused everyone by now) and elmizzt is clear. If EM flips green, kill ilovejonn and redtooth. There is still a godfather out there and they will almost definitely be an experienced player. Rally around Sandroba. He is wrong about me and he may be about EM as well, I'm not sure, but he is definitely town. So is Cthazsa. | ||
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