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Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#81
The question is, why were you doing it? Why pop up now? Time to take the focus off your buddy?
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:09 GMT
#82
On April 27 2011 06:07 purple2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:04 red2 wrote:
Like i lurked for first 12 hours. popped in to say Hi when i was put on a list. made 1 post about how people should be nice and then went right back to lurking. If i can do it and get away with it then what makes you guys think mafia aren't doing it?

I'm sure they are.
##VOTE: red2


/facepalm
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:10 GMT
#83
On April 27 2011 06:09 Blue1 wrote:
The question is, why were you doing it? Why pop up now? Time to take the focus off your buddy?


Nope i was just making an observation about how you guys are ignoring other players like me.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 21:11 GMT
#84
You didn't answer my 2 first questions.
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:14 GMT
#85
On April 27 2011 06:11 Blue1 wrote:
You didn't answer my 2 first questions.


I was busy getting a tooth pulled. and "why pop up now" is a silly question. your asking me why I came to participate in the game? should i just never start posting?
Protoss1
Profile Joined April 2011
47 Posts
April 26 2011 21:15 GMT
#86
On April 27 2011 06:03 Blue1 wrote:
No lynch is terrible for town. The only way to kill mafia is to lynch. If we vote no lynch we only have a new day 1 all over again with one less townie.
Also Protoss1 hinting blue in two posts annoys me greatly and I don't see how this can be pro-town. I don't believe people, newbie or not, can be this naive.


I have not "hinted" anything. You thought I was suspicious for how I introduced myself ("obvious bandwagoner is obvious"), I said I was surprised you were being so hostile when we are just getting to know each other. And then I did not vote for you.

I do not feel I have been naive about anything, so I'm not really sure where that's coming from. You still continue to be accusatory while my explanations are written off as scummy deception, so at this point I'm not sure what would satisfy you.
purple2
Profile Joined April 2011
56 Posts
April 26 2011 21:17 GMT
#87
On April 27 2011 06:09 red2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:07 purple2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:04 red2 wrote:
Like i lurked for first 12 hours. popped in to say Hi when i was put on a list. made 1 post about how people should be nice and then went right back to lurking. If i can do it and get away with it then what makes you guys think mafia aren't doing it?

I'm sure they are.
##VOTE: red2


/facepalm

Indeed.
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:23 GMT
#88
On April 27 2011 06:17 purple2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:09 red2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:07 purple2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:04 red2 wrote:
Like i lurked for first 12 hours. popped in to say Hi when i was put on a list. made 1 post about how people should be nice and then went right back to lurking. If i can do it and get away with it then what makes you guys think mafia aren't doing it?

I'm sure they are.
##VOTE: red2


/facepalm

Indeed.


yeah man cause your so good at scum hunting you dont even need to look for scum. they just stop by and say "look at me im lurking lynch me"

Your a real credit to town.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 21:23 GMT
#89
What would satisfy me is if you posted some opinions about who you think is scum, how do you feel about lynching inactives day1, how do you feel about red2's posts. Also read some guides if you are new and don't know what you are doing. If you are not scum your goal in this game is not to survive, it's to kill scum.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 21:24 GMT
#90
On April 27 2011 06:14 red2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:11 Blue1 wrote:
You didn't answer my 2 first questions.


I was busy getting a tooth pulled. and "why pop up now" is a silly question. your asking me why I came to participate in the game? should i just never start posting?

You contradict yourself. First you say you were lurking and now you say you were busy.
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:27 GMT
#91
On April 27 2011 06:24 Blue1 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:14 red2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:11 Blue1 wrote:
You didn't answer my 2 first questions.


I was busy getting a tooth pulled. and "why pop up now" is a silly question. your asking me why I came to participate in the game? should i just never start posting?

You contradict yourself. First you say you were lurking and now you say you were busy.


well I stopped by to read the thread a couple times while i was out but didnt post cause i was on my phone. thats lurking while busy.
red2
Profile Joined April 2011
18 Posts
April 26 2011 21:30 GMT
#92
Blue1 your just grasping at straws. very telling.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 21:35 GMT
#93
Care to post your opinions so far red?
Random4
Profile Joined April 2011
24 Posts
April 26 2011 22:26 GMT
#94
Haha are you really trying to push the protoss lynch still? He's posted enough, give a small analysis on him and tell me exactly why you feel protoss is a "newbie scum" when I don't see that at all. If you do it properly and give a reasonable explanation on how you reached that conclusion, I'll eat my words and vote for him.
purple2
Profile Joined April 2011
56 Posts
April 26 2011 23:11 GMT
#95
On April 27 2011 06:23 red2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 27 2011 06:17 purple2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:09 red2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:07 purple2 wrote:
On April 27 2011 06:04 red2 wrote:
Like i lurked for first 12 hours. popped in to say Hi when i was put on a list. made 1 post about how people should be nice and then went right back to lurking. If i can do it and get away with it then what makes you guys think mafia aren't doing it?

I'm sure they are.
##VOTE: red2


/facepalm

Indeed.


yeah man cause your so good at scum hunting you dont even need to look for scum. they just stop by and say "look at me im lurking lynch me"

Your a real credit to town.

I admit that sometimes the tooth fairy drops them in my lap.
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 26 2011 23:18 GMT
#96
This is from the op:
Activity:
As far as activity goes in this game, I am not using the standard rule. I hold you all tot he agreement you made and expect a commitment. I will nudge someone for inactivity to get them to post more, but I won't mod kill them. Punishments will be handed out post game with the severity and terms listed in the sign up thread.
...
I will say this one more time. The two cardinal sins in this game are as follow.
1. Trying to find out AKA's of players, or who is in the game.
2. Inactivity.

Neither will result in an immediate mod kill, but afterwords I will do everything in my power to make you suffer. Which can be quite a lot.


I think this is incentive enough to make people post. I don't think a huge analysis at this point is necessary as I've pretty much commented on every post he's made so far and I don't feel like repeating myself. For now we have to use the info we have so far and I'm voting on the person I find most likely to be scum. Red is a close candidate though. If you don't feel the same way and have any leads on others I sugest you share it.

Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 27 2011 00:04 GMT
#97
On April 27 2011 08:18 Blue1 wrote:
This is from the op:
Activity:
As far as activity goes in this game, I am not using the standard rule. I hold you all tot he agreement you made and expect a commitment. I will nudge someone for inactivity to get them to post more, but I won't mod kill them. Punishments will be handed out post game with the severity and terms listed in the sign up thread.
...
I will say this one more time. The two cardinal sins in this game are as follow.
1. Trying to find out AKA's of players, or who is in the game.
2. Inactivity.

Neither will result in an immediate mod kill, but afterwords I will do everything in my power to make you suffer. Which can be quite a lot.


I think this is incentive enough to make people post. I don't think a huge analysis at this point is necessary as I've pretty much commented on every post he's made so far and I don't feel like repeating myself. For now we have to use the info we have so far and I'm voting on the person I find most likely to be scum. Red is a close candidate though. If you don't feel the same way and have any leads on others I sugest you share it.



I would agree with you, but as the last experiment proved the threat of excessive banning is not enough to persuade subjects to post as much as they should, which is why I believe we should be pressuring inactives/lurkers. I disliked Zerg's caps-locked attitude but he seems to have recovered from it and I now have no problem keeping him around.

I fail to see why red pointing out that inactives are a problem makes him scum, he clearly stuck out his neck when it wasn't necessary to point out to us that the mafia could just be skating by, without being really pressured, and you guys want to lynch him for it? Once everyone has posted something of substance we can start worrying about scumhunting, but as far as we know the scum team has yet to post and are giggling franticly in a corner, watching us shove each other closer to the incinerator.

Assume for a second you guys are right, and protoss is the newbiest of newbie mafias if thats the case even if we leave him around and pressure inactives now he is going to make some kind of major mistake that gives him away or revert to typical newbie mafia behavior, which we *will* catch him at. I'm content to leave him around in the knowledge that we will know if he is scum or not sooner rather than later. I'd much rather poke the people not doing anything to see how they squirm.

On no lynch. Town almost never benefits from no lynch, in 98% of the previous experiments all no lynching did was fail to provide information and basically recreate day 1, nolynch provided no real benefits, and in the end meant the town had one less person to work with.

yellow1
pink2
green2

have yet to make substantial contributions, and it annoys me, I did not know I could get annoyed, but apparently I can
Blue1
Profile Joined April 2011
71 Posts
April 27 2011 00:14 GMT
#98
That's a very sound assesment orange. I'll keep your opinion on red in mind, but I see no reason to change my vote from protoss so far. My vote is not set in stone, but I see no point in waiting for info to magically appear before begining to hunt for scum.
Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 27 2011 00:20 GMT
#99
Blue, as you have cleverly noted information does not magically appear, we create it through pressuring people, which is why I am going to dedicate my efforts at making those three thoroughly uncomfortable, my experienced with lurkers is that they seem to react poorly to being prodded, and often give out information at the very least in their reactions to the votes, (see random4, who took that fact that I was voting for him very personally). You are ofcourse free to continue pushing whomever you wish,however I will be trying to shake these players out of their silence in the meantime.

If you want to generate more information I suggest reevaluating your case against protoss and seeing if you can find any new angles to it, if you do post them and evaluate how he reacts to it. Just my suggestions.

<3
Orange2
Profile Joined April 2011
103 Posts
April 27 2011 00:24 GMT
#100
oh, I almost forgot Protoss if you wish to take some of the heat of off yourself trying to come up with someone who you think is scum is a good idea, worst comes to worst, you'll be hanged, we will later be made aware you were town and we will be able to look back at who you accused. The way things are going currently the majority of your posts have been self defense rather than adding anything to the community.
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