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redFF
United States3910 Posts
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
Good on you for quitting tackster. On to a healthier, nicer smelling future! | ||
GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:39 aidnai wrote: GM, what makes you say tackster was town? Good on you for quitting tackster. On to a healthier, nicer smelling future! Hopefully you'll find someone that can replace me rather than lose a green altogther... He said he was green in his goodbye post. | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:39 DoctorHelvetica wrote: I'm going to lynch Kavdragon yeah, i'm not sticking my neck out for that guy anymore -_- "yeah, I had a plan that involved contributing without contributing but now i see the folly of my ways and I'll now seem like I'm really going to contribute and my plan was good at heart but i just didn't foresee everything but look at me contributing see how long my posts are i must be protown" | ||
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aidnai
United States1159 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:41 GMarshal wrote: He said he was green in his goodbye post. oh well that proves it lol | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
if i were mafia leaving thats exactly what i would say "i was just a worthless townie anyway" or smth like that doesnt mean jack | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
First, swaps. A few people are looking to be replaced in game, so if you're on the replacement list and read this, PM me telling me if you'd like to swap in. Right now, Pandain, Lanaia, and Tackster all require replacing. Second, after today, voting for yourself will no longer be allowed. It's okay to vote for yourself as mayor, but voting for yourself to be lynched is stupid. Enjoy the home stretch of campaigning! | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:42 aidnai wrote: yeah, i'm not sticking my neck out for that guy anymore -_- "yeah, I had a plan that involved contributing without contributing but now i see the folly of my ways and I'll now seem like I'm really going to contribute and my plan was good at heart but i just didn't foresee everything but look at me contributing see how long my posts are i must be protown" hes playing a lot like whatshisname in salem mafia where he said "yeah i promise im gonna contribute and scumhunt guys im totally ready to scumhunt" and just never did it and he was mafia | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:37 aidnai wrote: EBWODP @ Kav: come at me bro You always think I'm scum, regardless. I have posted contributory stuff, I was even the first person to post analysis. I'm unfortunetly not as graced with words as Dr.H is, so he stomped all over me. I still think he's scum. This is my stance on Dr.H: He did a ton of really hyper agressive play at the beginning, and it put many townies off. Quite honestly, I think that this explains why noobs are voting for GMarshal. They don't want Dr.H. Dr.H defended himself saying that his plan was to cause havoc so that he could have more information to analyse. He said that the ends justify the means. This is wrong. If you knock out half the town by stomping on them, just to get better reads that half of the town is less likely to participate. He is increasing his proformance level at the cost of others. This is unacceptable in a situation where mafia can just kill him, and then we have a town with a net loss. | ||
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Kavdragon
United States1251 Posts
My Thoughts on the Game First and foremost, the spam needs to come down. We need to be able to read through this thread to scum hunt, and the amount of spam is making it really hard to read. Obviously a good idea, right? So why is everyone still spamming? A few people on the top of my spam list are RedFF (For posting a lot of lists pointing at people, and asking tons of questions of people, but not actually contributing as much) Gmarshal (For posting more than is healthy. I know that you have a lot of things to say, but when you have that much to say you need to learn how to condense it. You don't have to reply to every single person when almost everyone is talking to you.) Dr.H (Not bad like RedFF, but in the similar vein as GMarshal, I think that you can condense what you are saying. If there are three people who say something scummy, wait a bit, then put your responses into the same post or something.) I don't think anyone is used to having 50 pages to analyse by day one. I'm certainly not. I've often been told that it's useless to analyse on day one, and I've disagreed with it before. As daunting a task as it is, I agree with Dr.H that there's plenty of material to get started on. Sure it won't be as reliable as the material that we will have by day 3/4, but there's no better time to start analyzing than NOW. If you wait, it won't happen, so I'm going to ask EVERYONE, even those who are bad at it, to try thier hand. By this time, the only people who don't have scum reads are scum. Take someone who you think is scummy, and analyse them. Right now my main concern will be inactive/lurker types, because they are the higher priority for lynching. | ||
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:25 tnkted wrote: Then make the pardoner save your first lynch. Its been suggested several times before. It would solve your problem entirely and would only cost us a lynch that is probably going to be town anyway. I have to go to class, i'll respond ot other points when i get back. So...we should just not lynch day 1 and allow mafia 4 free kills? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:51 Kavdragon wrote: My Thoughts on the Game First and foremost, the spam needs to come down. We need to be able to read through this thread to scum hunt, and the amount of spam is making it really hard to read. Obviously a good idea, right? So why is everyone still spamming? A few people on the top of my spam list are RedFF (For posting a lot of lists pointing at people, and asking tons of questions of people, but not actually contributing as much) Gmarshal (For posting more than is healthy. I know that you have a lot of things to say, but when you have that much to say you need to learn how to condense it. You don't have to reply to every single person when almost everyone is talking to you.) Dr.H (Not bad like RedFF, but in the similar vein as GMarshal, I think that you can condense what you are saying. If there are three people who say something scummy, wait a bit, then put your responses into the same post or something.) I don't think anyone is used to having 50 pages to analyse by day one. I'm certainly not. I've often been told that it's useless to analyse on day one, and I've disagreed with it before. As daunting a task as it is, I agree with Dr.H that there's plenty of material to get started on. Sure it won't be as reliable as the material that we will have by day 3/4, but there's no better time to start analyzing than NOW. If you wait, it won't happen, so I'm going to ask EVERYONE, even those who are bad at it, to try thier hand. By this time, the only people who don't have scum reads are scum. Take someone who you think is scummy, and analyse them. Right now my main concern will be inactive/lurker types, because they are the higher priority for lynching. wowwowowowowowowwwwwww | ||
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redFF
United States3910 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:51 Kavdragon wrote: My Thoughts on the Game First and foremost, the spam needs to come down. We need to be able to read through this thread to scum hunt, and the amount of spam is making it really hard to read. Obviously a good idea, right? So why is everyone still spamming? A few people on the top of my spam list are RedFF (For posting a lot of lists pointing at people, and asking tons of questions of people, but not actually contributing as much) Gmarshal (For posting more than is healthy. I know that you have a lot of things to say, but when you have that much to say you need to learn how to condense it. You don't have to reply to every single person when almost everyone is talking to you.) Dr.H (Not bad like RedFF, but in the similar vein as GMarshal, I think that you can condense what you are saying. If there are three people who say something scummy, wait a bit, then put your responses into the same post or something.) I don't think anyone is used to having 50 pages to analyse by day one. I'm certainly not. I've often been told that it's useless to analyse on day one, and I've disagreed with it before. As daunting a task as it is, I agree with Dr.H that there's plenty of material to get started on. Sure it won't be as reliable as the material that we will have by day 3/4, but there's no better time to start analyzing than NOW. If you wait, it won't happen, so I'm going to ask EVERYONE, even those who are bad at it, to try thier hand. By this time, the only people who don't have scum reads are scum. Take someone who you think is scummy, and analyse them. Right now my main concern will be inactive/lurker types, because they are the higher priority for lynching. I get your point about spamming, i will try to tone it down. Sorry if I'm spamming a lot, just trying to learn/catch scum. That said, this post doesn't really have any content. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
what else does it do "EVERYONE NEEDS TO SCUMHUNT RALLY AROUND MY GREAT IDEALS WHILE I CONTRIBUTE NOTHING" i remember that dudes name. Radfield! Read his posts in Salem Mafia! That's exactly what kav's doing rn | ||
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Mr. Wiggles
Canada5894 Posts
Firstly, FOS RedFF. You're putting way too much emphasis on the relations between votes and alignment. After a single vote, I don't think it's very telling at all, and isn't really indicative of alignment. So while you might get some useful information from voting patterns down the road, I don't think you'll net the whole scum team by just looking at who's voting for GMarshal. All you're serving to do now is spread fear and confuse people. Also, your tunneling of Monster seems odd to me. GMarshal I think it's silly to lynch the pardoner - If we want rid of the role completely, try and vote a green in and get him to pardon one of the early lynches (perhaps the first one where we aren't sure of our lynch victim, probably the day 1 lynch). This gets rid of the pardon whilst still protecting a probable green. If mafia obtain one of the positions, and don't block the lynch, then we can lynch on the next turn in the knowledge that we're definitely lynching scum that time. Please do not consider lynching the pardoner purely to get rid of the pardon. There is no reason to. Pardoning an early lynch isn't a good idea if it's for no particular use. This is for one of the same reasons I wouldn't want a black mayor. If we're forced to pardon, or to policy lynch, this early in the game, all it does is give scum another chance to shoot 4 kp into the town, and if we do it on day 2, it give assassins another chance to shoot too. So that's 8-14 KP for only one lynch or no lynch at all. And, in thinking about it, the pardon doesn't seem to have much use at all for town. If we could agree on a lynch target for today, one thing we could try to do, is vote in one mayor, and then vote our lynch target in as pardoner. Then the mayor just lynches the "pardoner", who was the original lynch target. This way, we kill the same player and get rid of the decidedly anti-town pardoner at the same time. If the pardoner pardons near the start of the game, can we still lynch him? | ||
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kevconsim
United States317 Posts
##unvote Gmarshal ##Vote Doctor Helevetica | ||
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M0nsterChef
Canada67 Posts
On April 12 2011 07:58 redFF wrote: I get your point about spamming, i will try to tone it down. Sorry if I'm spamming a lot, just trying to learn/catch scum. That said, this post doesn't really have any content. And by catching scum do you mean making multiple posts asking about lynching me and ON? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
his actions don't really make sense from either alignment to me (but I assume everyone is good, my main error) but he's made a lot of points I agree with so I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt. IMO redFF would make a great DT check. Here's one of the few times I'll give advice for blues in this game. DETECTIVES FUCKING READ THIS | ||
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Serejai
6007 Posts
On April 12 2011 08:02 Mr. Wiggles wrote: This is for one of the same reasons I wouldn't want a black mayor. ...what? I'm sorry I'm still trying to learn how to play this game but... what does skin color have to do with anything. That's just being racist =/ | ||
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