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On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. Thank you. I was on the fence with you. Welcome to townsville.
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On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. TL has a problem getting larger games going, lynching new players doesn't help. Look at Death Factory, where we only had 17 people...
Trackster doesn't even look red. People are lynching him because he doesn't post... I would rather kill someone who usually posts but doesn't, then ruin the chance of having a new TL regular.
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On March 26 2011 11:49 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... I don't care if he's still wearing diapers. I'm not here to give people warm fuzzy welcoming feelings. I'm here to kill scum. If you have issues with a noob getting lynched take it up with LSB. I'm just saying... we are here to build a community, and if I had been lynched day 1 when it was my first game, I wouldn't of come back. Most others would feel the same way. Lynching day 1 or day 2 is pretty much the exact same thing, just let the newer players have some fun, while killing others that look scummy. I know I won't be voting for Trackster simply because I can't in good conscience know that I might be ruining someone's possibly becoming a regular in TL mafia by this... I have no problem killing him after he gets a taste of what mafia is like... but he hasn't even lived a night cycle, or lynched anyone yet... but thats just me. We're here to kill scum. Period. We aren't here to build jack shit. We're here to kill them before they kill us.
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On March 26 2011 11:52 Insanious wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote:On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. TL has a problem getting larger games going, lynching new players doesn't help. Look at Death Factory, where we only had 17 people... Trackster doesn't even look red. People are lynching him because he doesn't post... I would rather kill someone who usually posts but doesn't, then ruin the chance of having a new TL regular. Don't care how he looks. He's either red or black. What color you reppin?
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Okay guys...stop. I agree with both Insanious and Jackal. We need to kill scum, however your only reasoning for killing Tack was "consensus". That doesn't show anything at all. I've read his posts, I do not think he is scum. Also, convincing bum to lynch him is another matter as well.
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On March 26 2011 11:54 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2011 11:52 Insanious wrote:On March 26 2011 11:49 chaoser wrote:On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him... LOLOL what is this...scummiest thing ever. "Let the new player play to night two". That's neither our win condition nor a concern of ours. Town wants to lynch mafia. If someone is scummy, we lynch him/her. Whether they're new or not doesn't matter. TL has a problem getting larger games going, lynching new players doesn't help. Look at Death Factory, where we only had 17 people... Trackster doesn't even look red. People are lynching him because he doesn't post... I would rather kill someone who usually posts but doesn't, then ruin the chance of having a new TL regular. Don't care how he looks. He's either red or black. What color you reppin? You have 0 analysis of Trackster... yet you are 100% sure he is red or black. He is brandnew, so you can't even Meta him... so please, tell me why he is scum?
All I see is a new player, that is trying, but still a little lost.
Paint me a picture that will make me think he deserves to be lynched.
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On March 26 2011 11:55 ilovejonn wrote: Okay guys...stop. I agree with both Insanious and Jackal. We need to kill scum, however your only reasoning for killing Tack was "consensus". That doesn't show anything at all. I've read his posts, I do not think he is scum. Also, convincing bum to lynch him is another matter as well. Consensus comes from IG PMs. 5 of 6 say he's scum he's scum. No other factions or influences. He's scum.
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6 Yup, because a PM circle with 2 scum in it is 100% reliable right.
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6
Can you quote scummy PM's? Point out scummy posts? Do something other than say that your circle agrees to it? I want reasons I can hold you to if he dosn't flip scum. Surely you came to this consensus based on *something* other than gut (although with you, annul and coag in the same circle it would not come as a great surprise )
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and if your consensus agrees, lets see them post saying so.
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lol you defending your scumbuddy insanious?
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On March 26 2011 12:08 GMarshal wrote:Can you quote scummy PM's? Point out scummy posts? Do something other than say that your circle agrees to it? I want reasons I can hold you to if he dosn't flip scum. Surely you came to this consensus based on *something* other than gut (although with you, annul and coag in the same circle it would not come as a great surprise  ) Annul and I disagree.
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i agree 100% Tack needs to die
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On March 26 2011 12:03 Jackal58 wrote: That should read 4 of 6
Jackal, while I am not ok with "Let's not kill a new player cause he's new", I do want to ask if we can get a little more clarification if possible.
Many of Tackster's posts in thread seem relatively pro-town. Says he's voting Bum and supporting him early, talks about how he'd rather the mayor make his own call instead of being swayed by town, takes a stance in whether annul is town or not. His stances were taken and there wasn't a lot of swaying.
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hes played mafia before just not here. dont let him fool you
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On March 26 2011 12:10 Coagulation wrote: lol you defending your scumbuddy insanious? I'm defending a new player, that doesn't look scummy at all... from getting killed night 1 their first game. Its a matter of values for me. Unless someone could show me something where he is 100% red, 0% chance of not being red... then he doesn't deserve to be killed for not being experienced.
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Also you realize that if you manage to get all the town killed in the item game, 1 lynch today, 2 nks + your shot then either third party or scum get all the items? which is bad for the town. We get a free scum kill and a free third party out of it, but they get some powerful items (Im assuming they are powerful at least)
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You know what actually? This is too good an opportunity. If Jackal can pass this test, he's green and we'll follow his plan. Otherwise, hes scum and we can kill him.
Ok heres the plan: In several of my posts so far in this thread I have laid carefully laid clues that only a townie would understand. These clues are directly related to a specific thing that all townies share but no blue, blacks or reds share: Your Role alignment PM. If you are a townie and you've been reading my posts, its pretty obvious that I am also a townie because I've been quoting words and phrases from that alignment PM. I want you to quote a post where I do so. The words and phrases are not hard to see, they aren't words like 'the.' If you're green, you'll be able to find something. If you aren't... well...
Also... ANYBODY THAT GIVES ANY HINTS OR POSTS ANY SPOILERS SHOULD BE CONSIDERED SCUM IMMEDIATELY ... although i anticipate scum having a very difficult time figuring it out unless somebody tells somebody in your PM circle.
If Jackal can come up with one example in my posts, then we can confirm him as town and will know that his plan is legit.
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On March 26 2011 11:43 Insanious wrote: :/ killing new players is awesome... can we at least let Trackster play till day 2? I mean seriously, this is his first game isn't it, at least let him get a taste rather then kill him instantly... just my $0.02.
I also play on .Org, and they don' kill new players before day 2 simply because it doesn't foster a good environment for them, and they don't usually come back... at least giving them a taste gives them a chance to play more.
Although, if Trackster isn't new (i just assumed he was) then we can just kills him...
I don't like this post. That is a terrible idea. Actually, that post kind of pains me because I can't see any town motivation for that. In nowhere I've been have we ever gone out of our way not to kill newbies, even in our newbie games/thread.
On March 26 2011 11:45 Beneather wrote: I think we should just lynch all the IG players (: Bound to get some scum players then and we won't have to worry about items making Mafia win.. So killing all the IG players will probrably help us more than it's going to hurt us..
I also don't like this post. The latter really won't help us. 2/10 scum are in the item game. I'd prefer not to end up lynching the first four and having them all be town, thanks. Scum can still kill so... I fail to see how this would help at all.
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