remember this? how does he know he has access to more than just a circle, if only alignment PMs went out? that is what started my attack on him to begin with. notice how he only came out AFTER trying to push this meme regarding counterclaims?

annul, why would he claim anything more than a circle if he didn't have more than a circle?

tnkted

United States1359 Posts

March 25 2011 01:17 GMT

#883

@annul: its obvious that he was telling the truth there, because Mafia hasn't gotten their roles yet either, just their alignment. Therefore, they would not know that they have access to more than a circle.

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

March 25 2011 01:17 GMT

#884

On March 25 2011 10:16 Tackster wrote:
In my eyes if I were to work so hard to invest in a plan that's bad for town I would either be mafia or... trying to come up with a non-insulting term here... simple?

So the way this turned out I can't imagine mafia pretending to be THAT simple so successfully... I mean that really takes acting lessons...

annul does it. Look at XXXVII. Even his own team were like...wtf are you doing...

LSB

United States5171 Posts

March 25 2011 01:17 GMT

#885

On March 25 2011 10:16 annul wrote:

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FYI i STILL think your mini town circle plan was retarded and anti-town in 37.

annul

United States2841 Posts

March 25 2011 01:18 GMT

#886

this was extremely early on in his candidacy (in fact this was the coming out post), and he probably didnt know the level of support he would get. he would need to bolster his claims a bit, and thats a great way to do it without actually having to reveal anything.

but since only alignment PMs came out, it was a horrible slip that i pounced on

chaoser

United States5541 Posts

March 25 2011 01:18 GMT

#887

On March 25 2011 10:17 LSB wrote:

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LOLOLOL

deconduo

Ireland4122 Posts

March 25 2011 01:19 GMT

#888

On March 25 2011 10:16 annul wrote:

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FYI i STILL think your mini town circle plan was retarded and anti-town in 37.

I now declare anything annul has said in this thread invalid.

annul

United States2841 Posts

March 25 2011 01:20 GMT

#889

i wont relitigate 37 but it seriously made no sense then and it makes no sense now.

Tackster

Ireland429 Posts

March 25 2011 01:20 GMT

#890

My opinion of trying to explain things to Annul:
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GMarshal

United States22154 Posts

March 25 2011 01:20 GMT

#891

On March 25 2011 10:16 annul wrote:

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FYI i STILL think your mini town circle plan was retarded and anti-town in 37.

Awesome! you seem to belive many, many things and they can't all be right ^_^

Lets move on shall we, I'd hate to have to debate a plan from an old game that was never used anyway

So, if you had the lynch right now annul who would die?

CubEdIn

Romania5359 Posts

March 25 2011 01:22 GMT

#892

So, if you had the lynch right now annul who would die?

Probably bum, cuz then he'd be 100% confirmed. AMIRITE?

annul

United States2841 Posts

March 25 2011 01:23 GMT

#893

On March 25 2011 10:20 GMarshal wrote:
So, if you had the lynch right now annul who would die?

not sure. probably walrus.

annul

United States2841 Posts

March 25 2011 01:23 GMT

#894

but i havent actually analyzed anyone in IG yet

tnkted

United States1359 Posts

March 25 2011 01:25 GMT

#895

ok while i think annul is wrong, lets back off on the jokes eh? things are getting personal due to all the energy flowing around and i think mafia is lolling at all the emotions. Lets just chill out. Annul, much of the town respectfully disagrees although you do raise good points. We want to hear more from you in the future, because while you may be (in our opinion) wrong here, your tenacity in the face of pressure is admirable. We want you to act like this when you think you are right, because at some point you will be. We just don't think that that point is right now.

Everyone else: I think we've decided on bum. Next on the agenda is lynching. Lets talk about that.

OriginalName

Canada1140 Posts

March 25 2011 01:25 GMT

#896

My opinion of town at the moment -_-
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tnkted

United States1359 Posts

March 25 2011 01:26 GMT

#897

Personally, I think that coag is mafia. His instavoting for jackal, and his complete lack of contribution make me suspicious. What does everyone else think?

OriginalName

Canada1140 Posts

March 25 2011 01:26 GMT

#898

On March 25 2011 10:26 tnkted wrote:
Personally, I think that coag is mafia. His instavoting for jackal, and his complete lack of contribution make me suspicious. What does everyone else think?

Coag is always like that.

bumatlarge

United States4567 Posts

March 25 2011 01:27 GMT

#899

On March 25 2011 09:56 annul wrote:
several on town: bum claimed blue OMFG THAT MUST MEAN HE IS A CONFIRMED BLUE, give him mayor

me: why u so dum?

several on town: OMFG YOU MUST BE A SCUM

Alright calm down, I understand your argument. So I'll try to give you what you want to hear, because I'm not sure lynching you is in our best interests.

Item game - I've only got one thing to say to this. I don't know. I don't know what the item game will give us exactly, but I am sure it's strong. I don't know jack about who is what in the item game. I love your numbers on why red won't be hitting within the item game, and giving mayorship to a townie within the game will nearly guarantee us this item. I know there is a good shot at giving townie mayorship in the item game and the item with it. But I think you are centralizing on the "Powers" which both many people have warned us of doing.

I can't concede to your plan knowing I've got a good shot at securing the mayoral spot, with a lot less doubt for town then usual. That's pretty big when town doesn't have to worry about this. But you don't agree that I'm necessarily a blue, which is why I took a while to work out how this could be faked before I claimed, and without roles, I don't believe it would be possible to fake-claim it without a counterclaim inevitably popping up. We will assume you are right for the sake of argument that your idea is superior. In that case, I would have to put a veteran as mayor, not a random item player. If there was a solid veteran in the item ranks with no scrutiny, I would consider it, but I would much rather someone I would know has experience to be mayor and not give a shit about power roles (Kav). It's an easy pick, I tried to go against Kav being picked where I was mafia and it doesn't work out if town realizes that the candidate has the potential to be a leader who can organize town properly. I hope to fill those shoes to the best of my abilities, so that the good scumhunters can be confident in my ability to use them and their analyses. It's either me or Kav, I won't be picking a random from the item game, and I can't vote for you annul, sorry. If you won't to promote jackal, that's another thing.

And I am not important to keep alive if I don't get mayor, because I am not a power role to my knowledge. While losing me would lose their voice for now and I am a decent player, the blue team can function without me. If this truly was in my opinion a better option I would have no problem stepping down, but I think I have a very strong argument, and people in this game know I am capable of being an asset to town. That said, I still think I am by far our best option. I don't want anyone to vote for me out of desperation that I already claimed. I want people to vote for me because I can help win us the game.

If you have anymore points or critiques, I will happily read them over. As I said, I don't feel comfortable having you as the first lynch, because what you are saying makes a lot of sense in regards to the item game, and it will be more of a stroke of luck to lynch you and find you are scum. I don't want to win by a stroke of luck.