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On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote:
OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little.
yes:
1. annul is insisting that there are blues who refuse to counter-claim, and will probably keep refusing to counter-claim even after roles are handed out.
2. he is suggesting we pick someone from the item game as mayor, even though if we fuck up and choose a red, it might lead to town losing the game.
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On March 25 2011 09:57 Tackster wrote:
OH MY GOD...
Can't have 4 blue hatters cos blues don't have KP.... Check the OP AGAIN
And ONCE AGAIN:
You haven't answered my question
I asked explain how he isnt confirmed blue without ccs
AGAIN you implied he IS blue
i NEVER implied he IS blue. ever.
please quote a single thing ive said the entire game where i implied that bum IS blue. "may be" blue is not the same as IS.
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On March 25 2011 09:58 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:53 Tackster wrote:
i KNOW i shouldn't go on but i think we may be close to a breakthrough here...
Annul: Why isn't he confirmed? Give me a situation in which he isn't blue when:
There are no ccs
The blue players aren't afk
Just answer that question PLEASE
Stop answering it by telling me he IS blue and he is NOT confirmed and he COULD be blue.
Just tell me the situation in which he isn't blue given the constraints we're assuming If blues are waiting until they get their roles to claim, so they don't counterclaim and accidentally reveal their player who becomes mass medic day/night vig and DT all at once, or something like that. :p Like I said, I'm not considering Bum as mayor until some time has actually passed where people have their roles. Then I'll consider his blue claim more legitimate.
I fully support this post, thanks Mr.Wiggles for making this point.
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wiggles that defies my constraint that there arent any ccs...
there are ccs in that scenario - we just dont have them yet...
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in fact go back to the point when bum originally announced candidacy. who was the very first person to challenge him outright?
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more like Bume claimed
Everyone: "let's wait for a CC" (No one CCs)
Everyone: well Bum is pretty much confirmed
Annul: OMG NO HE'S NOT
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On March 25 2011 09:57 Tackster wrote:
OH MY GOD...
Can't have 4 blue hatters cos blues don't have KP.... Check the OP AGAIN
And ONCE AGAIN:
You haven't answered my question
I asked explain how he isnt confirmed blue without ccs
AGAIN you implied he IS blue
I don't think you've played here before, but on TL mafia, roles like hatter, vig, don't count as "KP". KP here is nightly kills a team or player, usually scum/sk, get to use nightly. Killing abilities are not included in this KP number.
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On March 25 2011 09:56 annul wrote:
several on town: bum claimed blue without any CC. Pretty obvious that he's the best mayor candidate unless someone ccs or something major happens. If he is scum it would be pretty dumb of blues to not cc at this point.
me: LOLOLOL ITEMZ
several on town: OMFG YOU MUST BE AN IDIOT
Fixed for you
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Annul every time i ask you how is he NOT confirmed if he's uncced you give me an example in WHICH HE IS BLUE....
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Ok annul, lets see what's happened:
1) people clearly don't think your point is correct
2) you keep pushing the point leading to massive amounts of spam that is basically everyone talking around in circles
Can you see why that's bad? It basically allows mafia to blend into the conversation because it is an EASY conversation topic. Whether you are mafia or not, this argument is clearly spirally out of control. We can take it up again when powers/items are given out but for now can we give it a rest?
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/facepalm
I'll go sleep soon. I don't have the nerves to post the same thing over and over and over again.
It's pretty clear that most of town does not agree with annul, so we'll just see who wins the election.
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ho
ly
fuck
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shit.
do you just simply refuse to recognize the potential for blues to be worth more than 1 scum death? notice how not a SINGLE PLAYER has argued against that point, despite bringing it up repeatedly. please, decon. counter that point directly. please. dont straw man, dont ad hominem. tell me, is it not possible that a blue's life is worth more than that of ONE scum?
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@ wiggles
Blue Police Force - This is the pro town mason circle. In a world full of reds and blacks, the greens need some help, and help comes in the form of the big guns. Of course, the police can’t actually kill people, but they have their own way of helping.
To me this means NO kills, no hatters, no vigs, etc.
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On March 25 2011 10:00 Tackster wrote:
Annul every time i ask you how is he NOT confirmed if he's uncced you give me an example in WHICH HE IS BLUE....
you still have yet to quote a single thing in which i said that bum IS blue.
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On March 25 2011 09:59 Mr. Wiggles wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2011 09:57 Tackster wrote:
OH MY GOD...
Can't have 4 blue hatters cos blues don't have KP.... Check the OP AGAIN
And ONCE AGAIN:
You haven't answered my question
I asked explain how he isnt confirmed blue without ccs
AGAIN you implied he IS blue I don't think you've played here before, but on TL mafia, roles like hatter, vig, don't count as "KP". KP here is nightly kills a team or player, usually scum/sk, get to use nightly. Killing abilities are not included in this KP number.
In the op is says:
Of course, the police can’t actually kill people, but they have their own way of helping.
I assume that is what he is referencing.
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On March 25 2011 10:00 Tackster wrote:
Annul every time i ask you how is he NOT confirmed if he's uncced you give me an example in WHICH HE IS BLUE....
HES NOT CONFIRMED CAUSE HE DOESN'T EVEN HAVE HIS GOD DAMNED POWER YET.
CHILL OUT AND WAIT ANOTHER HOUR THEN SEE IF WE GET CCS UNTIL THEN DROP THE DAMN ISSUE.
There are you happy now? We cannot confirm anyone for any reason as nobody wants to do anything stupid until they even know what they CAN do.
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On March 25 2011 09:59 Tackster wrote:
wiggles that defies my constraint that there arent any ccs...
there are ccs in that scenario - we just dont have them yet...
You were asking why he isn't confirmed, not why he won't be confirmed in the future. Right now, he's unconfirmed, and in my mind, his confirmation is 0% until blues actually get some roles. If he's still uncontested, then I'll consider him probably blue and a good mayor candidate.
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On March 25 2011 09:56 darmousseh wrote:
OMG, so much posting going on I can't keep up. Can someone summarize a little.
Basically, Bum claimed blue. Since Blues are a mason circle as well as have roles and apparently (according to bum and semi-confirmed by LSB ["No comment"]) something else. Unless theres a counter-claim, which by now there should have been unless all blues are AFK, odds are he's telling the truth. On this basis, Bum is running for Mayor. This will help him survive, and will give town a mouth to the blue mason circle.
annul is vehemently opposed to this idea and believes someone from the item game should be made mayor. Everyone else thinks he is crazy for the most part (a few people support a non-bum mayor).
Kavdragon is a good mayor alternate, as is Chaoser (who backed out conditional to no counterclaim)
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But you keep saying that Bum isn't necessarily blue if he's uncced...
Then whenever asked about it you give a scenario in which he's blue...
Then you go on to announce that he's a 'sacrifice' although as mayor he's the opposite...
Then you go on to say we shouldn't elect him which makes him a sacrifice...
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Are you seriously messing with me or what?
Every time i state if he's uncced blue... that means uncced when we elect him
Why would i push to vote a cced blue...
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