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Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 18 2011 07:48 Coagulation wrote: GO AHEAD. SAY DAY 1 POLICY LYNCH COAG I DARE YA. MAKE MY DAY. Lynch Coag imo. He's always bad lol. | ||
LunarDestiny
United States4177 Posts
On February 18 2011 07:48 Coagulation wrote: GO AHEAD. SAY DAY 1 POLICY LYNCH COAG I DARE YA. MAKE MY DAY. I was waiting for Coag to post this. When he is town and gets lynch early, he goes berserk and say something like coag auto lynch. @Barundar Bolding names is just making it easier for the eye. It's a weak FoS, and what does it have to do with what happened since your last post? You end up sounding like you aren't really suspecious of him anyways? It is to see Coag's reaction. Coag did changed his playstyle when he was town. I want to see if Coag would lurk and ignore my post, OMGUS post right at me, or explain why am I wrong. No mafia is so obvious as to defend their team mate straight off. Why is it relevant to explain why he responds to you immediately? This is to say even if Coag is mafia, Gmarshall can not be concluded as mafia because he defended Coag since it is his style to be active in games. I won't comment on Chaoser's part because he hasn't respond to me what he mean by we should lynch after bombing. And I don't want people answering the question from him. I want to know the original thought in his post. | ||
OriginalName
Canada1140 Posts
This is not good enough. If you read the mafia guides it's the silent people that gets lynched first. And no, we can't just all get along. If you keep quiet we can't get a read on you. Hence mafia can just lurk like you. And we will be forced to kill you off before we can go after them. You could easily post your opinion on the no lynch suggestion, as well as how and when we should use our suicide? For an example, it's my opinion that we should avoid rushing towards lylo. The longer the game, the more information we got. Suicides really favor Scum unless were 100% sure which is nigh impossable as there's no DTs in this setup. Lynching is a nessescity for town victory as it: A) Its a non Suicide KP (although you could argue a mislynch would cause the same scenario as someone is killed due to night phase) along with information on perhaps motive and experience. B) Its based on what we want unless we bandwagon on a scum sponsered victim. Inactivity lynches don't work either as you could be hitting town at the sane time if the mafia is experienced and/or active. | ||
darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
I hope it's tomorrow because right now very few people have voted unless we plan on doing the no lynch. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
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chaoser
United States5541 Posts
I won't comment on Chaoser's part because he hasn't respond to me what he mean by we should lynch after bombing. And I don't want people answering the question from him. I want to know the original thought in his post. I said we shouldn't lynch after bombing. If it's two greens that flip we should vote no lynch since we're 1) probably on the wrong trail anyway and 2) will make tmr lylo | ||
LSB
United States5171 Posts
On February 18 2011 09:24 darmousseh wrote: Is the first day ending at 2 hours or is it tomorrow (in 26 hours) I hope it's tomorrow because right now very few people have voted unless we plan on doing the no lynch. Tomorrow About 25 hours from now | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
##Unvote ##Vote Amber[LighT] please post, you have one post that looks constructive and then you vanish, when you vanish like that I have to wonder if you are off scheming with the anti town forces, so please post to reassure me | ||
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GMarshal
United States22154 Posts
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Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 18 2011 11:10 GMarshal wrote: EBWOP: I know however that Amber[LighT] is obviously a model citizen of this fine nation and would never scheme with the anti town forces, however it is as important for a citizen to appear virtuous as to be virtuous An armed society is a polite society. | ||
Coagulation
United States9633 Posts
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Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
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deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
On February 18 2011 18:25 Barundar wrote: I've gotten stupidly sick and have a hard time just looking at a screen at the moment. @LSB if you want to replace me go ahead. ![]() On February 18 2011 09:38 chaoser wrote: I said we shouldn't lynch after bombing. If it's two greens that flip we should vote no lynch since we're 1) probably on the wrong trail anyway and 2) will make tmr lylo Yes. I still FOS chaoser for his PMS earlier, but this is a much more constructive post. On February 18 2011 14:05 Coagulation wrote: OH snap edit. posted in wrong game. Modkill imo ![]() On a more serious note, there's only been a handful of posts while I was asleep. This should be the busiest time. I would consider everyone playing to be usually pretty active so I'm wondering why the silence? | ||
Barundar
Denmark1582 Posts
My problem with LunarDestiny's post is it's build up as a "here are my thoughts on 3 important people", but really it ends up not saying anything about them. The coag bit could be: I'm watching for if coag has actually changed his play", GMarshal... well he doesn't say anything about him, and the Chaoser bit sounds defensive. So I have to wonder, why does he post a for him pretty long post without any content? I find it suspecious, even if it doesn't mean he is mafia. Earlier I posted a list of deconduo, LunarDestiny chaoser and Amber[light] as the most experienced, and there is bound to be a mafia in there. The chaoser vs Deconduo fight looks a lot like 2 townies fighting to me. Chaoser's posts where short and emotional, quite different from his long posts in mini mafia V, and deconduo went after him fearlessly, I'm pretty certain mafia would be more careful not to piss off people in a setup like this. That leaves Amber and LunarD. Amber has not responded to my questions to his posts, and LunarD made a very fast FoS on Coagulation, and later a suspeciously empty post. So LunarD, what do you think of Amber's posting behavior, and Amber are you sticking with Chaoser and Deconduo as suspects still? | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On February 18 2011 23:17 Barundar wrote: Agreed with deconduo, i usually wake up to pages. This is not the usual day 1 FoS circus for sure. My problem with LunarDestiny's post is it's build up as a "here are my thoughts on 3 important people", but really it ends up not saying anything about them. The coag bit could be: I'm watching for if coag has actually changed his play", GMarshal... well he doesn't say anything about him, and the Chaoser bit sounds defensive. So I have to wonder, why does he post a for him pretty long post without any content? I find it suspecious, even if it doesn't mean he is mafia. Earlier I posted a list of deconduo, LunarDestiny chaoser and Amber[light] as the most experienced, and there is bound to be a mafia in there. The chaoser vs Deconduo fight looks a lot like 2 townies fighting to me. Chaoser's posts where short and emotional, quite different from his long posts in mini mafia V, and deconduo went after him fearlessly, I'm pretty certain mafia would be more careful not to piss off people in a setup like this. That leaves Amber and LunarD. Amber has not responded to my questions to his posts, and LunarD made a very fast FoS on Coagulation, and later a suspeciously empty post. So LunarD, what do you think of Amber's posting behavior, and Amber are you sticking with Chaoser and Deconduo as suspects still? I'm not suspicious of Deconduo anymore. He's clearly helping out now and my only problem was that he was inactive. Not really much of a basis to lynch anybody. I'm on the fence on Chaoser. On one hand we saw the completely useless joking posts that "irked" a bunch of people at the start, and it struck a nerve with me unconsciously, but I didn't want that to be "the only reason we lynched him." On the other hand I agree with his plan that we shouldn't lynch and bomb. It's actually one of the best ideas for us to follow; however we don't have much of a basis for lynching... but wait, YES WE DO. In my earlier post I stated that everyone should post a list of suspects. Specifically 3 suspects that you would believe to be on the mafia team. Wow isn't that swell? Now since we clearly don't have everybody on board with this plan it's not going to work. People were also asking "why," well it's simple. THis gives the town an opportunity to know what everybody is thinking. It also gives everybody an idea of who's suspicious of who. It's all out on the table. We can then discuss the suspects without any hiding. Deceit is going to suffocate this town. This also gives us a preliminary idea of our suspects. If there's too many random suspects (everybody picks 3 people in random orders) then we should go ahead and say that we're not ready to blow someone up. Lynching 1 person and then finding out he's just a townie is so much better than playing guessing games with 5+ potential targets. This also gives us some time before we begin voting and it's not going to be a surprise to the lynch candidate that he was chosen. If he's mafia then whatever... If he's a fanatic then hopefully he realizes that he should not try and be a hero and take someone with him. Don't forget just because we list suspects doesn't mean that we have found any mafia. It's still Day 1 and we need to recognize that as well. I would also say it's important that we agree on not using any suicides at all for Day 1. I really don't think we could be so certain that we're going to hit mafia by sacrificing one of our own tonight. Our odds are much lower than later on down the line, and I've stated this before. Now lets see... On February 18 2011 02:05 Barundar wrote: What criteria would you suggest for people to use when selecting 3 mafia, and why do you think it's necessary to guess on who the medic is? I've found that if you think someone is mafia, don't get distracted by trying to find connections to others, focus on one lynch at time. In my opinion it would be great if people posted 3 suspects, but without reasons it's not worth much? It's evening/afternoon in EU at the moment. I know deconduo likes to lurk when mafia ![]() Behavioral analysis. The backbone of playing mafia. Read up on it if you're not too great at it. We don't have a lot of posts to go through yet but the best way is to catch players when they make mistakes. Call them out. Players have already done that. Don't forget just because someone calls another player out doesn't mean they're automatically safe. If people don't give good reasoning then they should be looked at by other players. It's up to all of us to keep tabs on everybody in this game. I want players to begin thinking about who the medic could be. Don't say it in the thread. This way when you see that name pop up in a list you can start working to save him/her. Medic anonymity is key in this game. Best case scenario is that we lynch mafia today, then the medic has a 1/8 survival. Worst case scenario is someone gets upset, blows himself and another fanatic up, and we lynch a 3rd fanatic, making the medics survival rate 1/5 for night one. That's almost an 8% reduction!!! On February 18 2011 11:05 GMarshal wrote: so, since activity has died down, and I want people to post ##Unvote ##Vote Amber[LighT] please post, you have one post that looks constructive and then you vanish, when you vanish like that I have to wonder if you are off scheming with the anti town forces, so please post to reassure me Quality over quantity my friend. I'm learning to post with more meaning since I typically would get ignored in games with nonsensical banter. You are clearly not following my plan and just gunning me down. I won't hold it against you since I get fans voting for me every game. Since I don't want to disappoint I want to make sure I follow my own plan. I want to keep Chaoser on my list of suspects. I am putting him at the bottom of my list though. I like his idea but he hasn't come forward and helped identify scummy players. A lot of players seem to believe he's scummy too and have posted reasons and have called him out on it and he gets quite defensive. And the suicide defense is never a good defense. If we all did that we would never lynch anybody and wait for mafia to pick us all off. We need more. My most suspicious is definitely Jackal58. You FOS me without much defense. You call my initial post scummy. You won't even contribute other than useless one liners. And the kicker is that GGQ asked you to elaborate on my FOS and you refused to do so. You said it "has no substance." It's the only plan aside from Chaosers "don't lynch AND bomb" plan. You haven't posted anything better than what I have. That's textbook scumplay and that's actually something that RoL did to me in a past game IIRC. All you do is make simple refutes and then barely contribute. There's no way I can sit here and say to myself that you're around for the benefit of the town. You are not helping the town yet want to initiate a smear campaign against me? My number 2 would be Coagulation, and this is a weak suspicion as well. Him and Chaoser both did the "blow my self up defense" and I, at first, felt it was okay to let it slide, but then he did it again and if we need to make an example out of players then so be it. I really feel like, with Chaoser, that this is a weak suspicion and I would like to keep both of them around until tomorrow. There's not enough on Coag for me to say he's the most scummiest. I also feel like he's going to be an asset late game and we need him around. I believe we should lynch Jackal58 tonight, and not use any fanatic abilities. I would like the rest of the town to be on board with at least not using the fanatic ability. We only have a couple of pages of content and our most suspicious might be our best bet, but 2 and 3 on anybody's list right now is going to be weak since we haven't really dived into this game yet. Don't forget that it's still Day 1. If I missed something someone wants to know let me know. I didn't get the chance to post yesterday but I should be around periodically today. | ||
deconduo
Ireland4122 Posts
Vote: Chaoser Hopefully I'll get back in time to place a more thought out vote, but for now I'm going with instinct. Sorry chaoser. | ||
Jackal58
United States4264 Posts
On February 19 2011 02:02 Amber[LighT] wrote: I'm not suspicious of Deconduo anymore. He's clearly helping out now and my only problem was that he was inactive. Not really much of a basis to lynch anybody. I'm on the fence on Chaoser. On one hand we saw the completely useless joking posts that "irked" a bunch of people at the start, and it struck a nerve with me unconsciously, but I didn't want that to be "the only reason we lynched him." On the other hand I agree with his plan that we shouldn't lynch and bomb. It's actually one of the best ideas for us to follow; however we don't have much of a basis for lynching... but wait, YES WE DO. In my earlier post I stated that everyone should post a list of suspects. Specifically 3 suspects that you would believe to be on the mafia team. Wow isn't that swell? Now since we clearly don't have everybody on board with this plan it's not going to work. People were also asking "why," well it's simple. THis gives the town an opportunity to know what everybody is thinking. It also gives everybody an idea of who's suspicious of who. It's all out on the table. We can then discuss the suspects without any hiding. Deceit is going to suffocate this town. This also gives us a preliminary idea of our suspects. If there's too many random suspects (everybody picks 3 people in random orders) then we should go ahead and say that we're not ready to blow someone up. Lynching 1 person and then finding out he's just a townie is so much better than playing guessing games with 5+ potential targets. This also gives us some time before we begin voting and it's not going to be a surprise to the lynch candidate that he was chosen. If he's mafia then whatever... If he's a fanatic then hopefully he realizes that he should not try and be a hero and take someone with him. Don't forget just because we list suspects doesn't mean that we have found any mafia. It's still Day 1 and we need to recognize that as well. I would also say it's important that we agree on not using any suicides at all for Day 1. I really don't think we could be so certain that we're going to hit mafia by sacrificing one of our own tonight. Our odds are much lower than later on down the line, and I've stated this before. Now lets see... Behavioral analysis. The backbone of playing mafia. Read up on it if you're not too great at it. We don't have a lot of posts to go through yet but the best way is to catch players when they make mistakes. Call them out. Players have already done that. Don't forget just because someone calls another player out doesn't mean they're automatically safe. If people don't give good reasoning then they should be looked at by other players. It's up to all of us to keep tabs on everybody in this game. I want players to begin thinking about who the medic could be. Don't say it in the thread. This way when you see that name pop up in a list you can start working to save him/her. Medic anonymity is key in this game. Best case scenario is that we lynch mafia today, then the medic has a 1/8 survival. Worst case scenario is someone gets upset, blows himself and another fanatic up, and we lynch a 3rd fanatic, making the medics survival rate 1/5 for night one. That's almost an 8% reduction!!! Quality over quantity my friend. I'm learning to post with more meaning since I typically would get ignored in games with nonsensical banter. You are clearly not following my plan and just gunning me down. I won't hold it against you since I get fans voting for me every game. Since I don't want to disappoint I want to make sure I follow my own plan. I want to keep Chaoser on my list of suspects. I am putting him at the bottom of my list though. I like his idea but he hasn't come forward and helped identify scummy players. A lot of players seem to believe he's scummy too and have posted reasons and have called him out on it and he gets quite defensive. And the suicide defense is never a good defense. If we all did that we would never lynch anybody and wait for mafia to pick us all off. We need more. My most suspicious is definitely Jackal58. You FOS me without much defense. You call my initial post scummy. You won't even contribute other than useless one liners. And the kicker is that GGQ asked you to elaborate on my FOS and you refused to do so. You said it "has no substance." It's the only plan aside from Chaosers "don't lynch AND bomb" plan. You haven't posted anything better than what I have. That's textbook scumplay and that's actually something that RoL did to me in a past game IIRC. All you do is make simple refutes and then barely contribute. There's no way I can sit here and say to myself that you're around for the benefit of the town. You are not helping the town yet want to initiate a smear campaign against me? My number 2 would be Coagulation, and this is a weak suspicion as well. Him and Chaoser both did the "blow my self up defense" and I, at first, felt it was okay to let it slide, but then he did it again and if we need to make an example out of players then so be it. I really feel like, with Chaoser, that this is a weak suspicion and I would like to keep both of them around until tomorrow. There's not enough on Coag for me to say he's the most scummiest. I also feel like he's going to be an asset late game and we need him around. I believe we should lynch Jackal58 tonight, and not use any fanatic abilities. I would like the rest of the town to be on board with at least not using the fanatic ability. We only have a couple of pages of content and our most suspicious might be our best bet, but 2 and 3 on anybody's list right now is going to be weak since we haven't really dived into this game yet. Don't forget that it's still Day 1. If I missed something someone wants to know let me know. I didn't get the chance to post yesterday but I should be around periodically today. I don't need to write a book to say this is just more of the nothing you said before. That doesn't make me scummy. Nice OMGUS btw. | ||
darmousseh
United States3437 Posts
For now, if I don't get another chance to vote I'm going to vote chaoser because he is acting strangely yet predictably. Makes him hard to analyze. Vote: Chaoser | ||
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