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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 13 2011 17:09 GMT
#441
Irony...

Kind of sucks Ace died so early. A victim of his own success, I suppose. Let's take a look back and see who he was fighting with,

Who has the role of Kagemusha? What does he do? Why is he in this night post? I am confused.
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BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
February 13 2011 17:11 GMT
#442
Actually, I just realized something. Killing Ace meant nothing, he's free to continue to analyze and discuss in thread :D

Looks like mafia got Aced.
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Misder
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1557 Posts
February 13 2011 17:35 GMT
#443
Vote thefluffyone93

I'll be back later.
Whaaaa?
thefluffyone93
Profile Joined February 2011
26 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-02-13 17:48:51
February 13 2011 17:48 GMT
#444
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 13 2011 19:36 GMT
#445
I will to continue those who I perceive as inactives

SiNiquity

post, post, post! I can't bear the inactivity!
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GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 13 2011 19:37 GMT
#446
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity
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bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 19:50 GMT
#447
Did I call it or did I call it?

On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....


Dont be stupid, you have perfectly good information to work with right now.

Mafia made a depressingly bad mistake here, unless they planned this out really well. Let me list a few reasons why.

1) Ace and I can still talk and comment. If we both win with town (though I have some doubts about ace now), we can both assertively take positions about matters. We just can't lynch or use abilities, or talk about anything we haven't revealed. This is very important.
2) Someone targeted two very experienced TL players. This means someone who knows both Ace and I is calling the shots (eat it BB). We can narrow this down dramatically to one or more people.
3) As deconduo said, two nightkills, and we know from the OP that mafia have two kp. "Kagemusha" wasn't idly mentioned, I'm guessing, so we should discuss if this person should claim and state any information he may have received last night (I think he may have been protected or have been a vet as well). It appears Ace tried to kidnap(kill?) him. It may be likely that ace could be a grunt (GF can't die yet) or a third party/vig. He can't claim it I believe because of the "rules for dead" unless he has mentioned it before.
4) Kagemusha is still alive. We should look into this person on totalwar.org. It is possible Ace tried to kill the GF as well so it failed. This needs to be figured out ASAP.

There is nothing to be done about Ace atm unless he is able to specify something, and he is dead anyway so herp derp. Here is a list of people I have played with and know. (This will be in order from memory and familiarity to myself rather then counting how many games they have played with us) I have been mafia with the top 5 iirc.

deconduo
BrownBear
chaoser
aidnai
SouthRawrea
Coagulation
Node
SiNiquity
Misder
GGQ
kitaman27
Insanious
Mr. Wiggles
GMarshal
darmousseh
ilovejonn
why

Also, Ace and I were at the top of the list if we disregard deconduo. This could mean something considering it is a penalty game, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Mr. Wiggles
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
Canada5894 Posts
February 13 2011 20:00 GMT
#448
BrownBear, these puns, they killin' me!

So what I think the night kills say:

There's at least one TL member on the mafia team to be able to target experienced players. (Makes sense statistically).

That said, it does appear scum are targeting active/experienced players, although they can still post after death, so the joke's on them.

What I think of the night post:

First a question for the TotalWar people. What does it mean when it's mentioned in Bumatlarge's death "Pull a Spartan", and who's Spartan? I'm wondering if this has any significance if he were to be a third party, as it also mentions dreaming about his master plan.

I'm wondering who Kagemusha is, and what significance his mentioning might have. Feel free to enlighten us. It seems like Ace had some role/ability, and targeted the player with the name "Kagemusha", but it didn't follow through because he was killed at the same time. Has anyone ever seen anything like a "kidnapper" role before?

Also, I'm want to try to pressure the people who haven't posted yet, get them talking, it's impossible to get information from people who don't talk.

##Vote: Project Psycho
you gotta dance
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:01 GMT
#449
On January 22 2011 15:57 pevergreen wrote:
Rules for the dead:
You are free to continue discussing as you would normally in and outside of the thread, with the condition that you do not reveal anything private you may have known while alive. (So no post death reveals of role, abilities or results) You may only comment about in thread events and anything you may have revealed in thread before your death. If you are seen trying to circumvent this rule, you will be asked to stop posting entirely. Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.

On February 11 2011 19:02 bumatlarge wrote:
+ Show Spoiler +
On February 11 2011 17:38 Coagulation wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


really man?

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 13:50 Coagulation wrote:
We should lynch zerroth
because the last game
completely inactive
only posted/vote to avoid modkill etc

Lets get the inactives out now



lets look at your contributions so far in this game
Show nested quote +
On January 23 2011 01:09 bumatlarge wrote:
Once you are dead, you are free from any guidelines or constraints your role may have placed on you.


Ohhh a penalty-esque game? I do have to redeem myself for the last one for Ace -_-

/In!


Awesome you joined the game!

Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 15:29 bumatlarge wrote:
Alright time to get started.
Yep
Hopefully I can make good use of this role, as I have to do the character justice.
Filler
Coagulation has already spouted off to his random tangents, so we might be better off without him.
shows willingness to jump on the easy bandwagon. cause scum love easy bandwagons. that makes town sit around and not analyze people.
I still want to see what everyone is posting like, because I am seeing a good number of sentence long posts with nothing in it.
similar to this post.
Too be expected. I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.
what is this? theres nothing of any value to your post so far for town.
"im not gonna vote"
awesome thanks for letting us know.


Show nested quote +
On February 11 2011 17:04 bumatlarge wrote:
On February 11 2011 16:56 gryffindor wrote:
So, let me get this straight, you're defending him by saying he plays the same way as both town and scum?


Fantastic point. Coag has definitely shown us no indication of at least trying to help town. He's an easy choice. Present a better candidate, Node, or just inform coagulation that he needs to change his meta. Who needs RNG?


So wait.. i clearly showed you my indication of trying to help town. you disregarded that to blow out of proportion that i am anti town for your own purposes clearly.
If you need an example of me trying to help town with info go ahead an read up top again.

your last post you decided your not gonna vote...OK......And now im the EASY Choice?
What changed your mind?
Show nested quote +
I'm not putting my vote anywhere yet until I see what I want to see.


What did you see?
Sounds wishy washy to me. I dont think you seen anything but an easy lynch.
And mafia love easy lynches. because it makes town not focus on scumhunting.
is that what you seen?

if your mafia
im going to hand your ass to town on a silver platter.
I will be watching you.


You are right, I am mafia.


I like this game.
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 13 2011 20:06 GMT
#450
amazing I even tried to keep myself alive by not doing too much and I still died. Epic.

go go Tree Stump powers!
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:08 GMT
#451
On February 14 2011 05:06 Ace wrote:
amazing I even tried to keep myself alive by not doing too much and I still died. Epic.

go go Tree Stump powers!


Wonder Twin Tree Stump powers! ACTIVATE!
Together but separate, like oatmeal
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 13 2011 20:09 GMT
#452
wait you did too? lololololol
Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
bumatlarge
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States4567 Posts
February 13 2011 20:11 GMT
#453
Well isn't like dying in this game basically tree stump anyway? that wasn't a penalty or ability of mine or anything...
Together but separate, like oatmeal
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
February 13 2011 20:24 GMT
#454
On February 14 2011 04:37 GMarshal wrote:
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity

I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
GMarshal
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States22154 Posts
February 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#455
On February 14 2011 05:24 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 04:37 GMarshal wrote:
EBWP:
##Vote: SiNiquity

I'd post a rolleyes smiley but even a thousand wouldn't cut it so:

http://i54.tinypic.com/28k6no3.gif


Sorry? I refuse to let this game become really inactive with mafia leading the town in circles, to be honest the rules about lurking are really lenient, so if we don't set a strong precedent of killing inactives its going to become a game of lurkers while mafia snipe whom ever dares to speak up.
Is there some other lurking player you would like to propose for pressure? I only chose you because you were my choice last time.
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JBright
Profile Joined September 2010
Vancouver14381 Posts
February 13 2011 20:31 GMT
#456
On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....


Careful about the edit, although I'm not sure how much was changed.

Doesn't seem like a lot of people respond to my stuff...maybe they are a little low on content.
ModeratorThe good and the wise lead quiet lives. Neo's #1 Frenemy and nightmare.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
February 13 2011 20:32 GMT
#457
On February 14 2011 02:00 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 13 2011 22:22 pevergreen wrote:
It had been a stressful few months, with strong roles here and having victory snatched from his grasp when pevergreen pushed for his lynch.
"There was no way he knew that I was the dark one." Kage thought, "It was just pure luck. I should have won that game. I'm never working with pever again."


Does this mean anything to anyone? I vaguely remember it.

Rings a bell, but it hard to say. The mind remembers remembers change the most, and another victory is just more same ol' same ol'.

But that's the past and this is the present.

Bumatlarge (The Spartan) is killed.
Ace (Tin Cow) kidnaps ??? (Kagemusha)
Ace (Tin Cow) is killed.

On February 13 2011 15:54 bumatlarge wrote:
If I must die, then I accept my fate for the good of the town. BRING IT.


Seems characteristic of a Spartan. What that actually means idk..

Kagemusha (can't link directly to user profiles if you don't have an account): http://forums.totalwar.org/vb/showthread.php?133113-Clean-Feature-5-and-6 but digging up the history of a forum poster is going to be impossible. How about you new guys lending a hand here?

Also I agree with the obvious - Bum and Ace dead leaves TL members as the obvious people to blame.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
February 13 2011 20:43 GMT
#458
Wassup ACE?!?!

I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course.

You are Kagemusha

You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else
- Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia

My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol
I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored.
Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...
aidnai
Profile Joined January 2010
United States1159 Posts
February 13 2011 20:57 GMT
#459
On February 14 2011 04:50 bumatlarge wrote:
Did I call it or did I call it?

Show nested quote +
On February 14 2011 02:48 thefluffyone93 wrote:
Vote: Misder

and round and round we go....


Dont be stupid, you have perfectly good information to work with right now.

Mafia made a depressingly bad mistake here, unless they planned this out really well. Let me list a few reasons why.

1) Ace and I can still talk and comment. If we both win with town (though I have some doubts about ace now), we can both assertively take positions about matters. We just can't lynch or use abilities, or talk about anything we haven't revealed. This is very important.
2) Someone targeted two very experienced TL players. This means someone who knows both Ace and I is calling the shots (eat it BB). We can narrow this down dramatically to one or more people.
3) As deconduo said, two nightkills, and we know from the OP that mafia have two kp. "Kagemusha" wasn't idly mentioned, I'm guessing, so we should discuss if this person should claim and state any information he may have received last night (I think he may have been protected or have been a vet as well). It appears Ace tried to kidnap(kill?) him. It may be likely that ace could be a grunt (GF can't die yet) or a third party/vig. He can't claim it I believe because of the "rules for dead" unless he has mentioned it before.
4) Kagemusha is still alive. We should look into this person on totalwar.org. It is possible Ace tried to kill the GF as well so it failed. This needs to be figured out ASAP.

There is nothing to be done about Ace atm unless he is able to specify something, and he is dead anyway so herp derp. Here is a list of people I have played with and know. (This will be in order from memory and familiarity to myself rather then counting how many games they have played with us) I have been mafia with the top 5 iirc.

deconduo
BrownBear
chaoser
aidnai
SouthRawrea
Coagulation
Node
SiNiquity
Misder
GGQ
kitaman27
Insanious
Mr. Wiggles
GMarshal
darmousseh
ilovejonn
why

Also, Ace and I were at the top of the list if we disregard deconduo. This could mean something considering it is a penalty game, but I wouldn't put too much thought into it.


I think you made an incorrect assumption about the GF not being killable Bum. Check it out
The mafia is comprised of 3 members, 2 grunts and a godfather. While 2 grunts are alive, the mafia have two kills. If one dies, the mafia drops to one kill. When the second grunt dies, the godfather gains the ability to kill twice per night. If the godfather dies, it is not game over, the remaining grunts (if any) may continue. Only when all three members die are the mafia eliminated.


That means Ace could have been GF, and it means you can throw out the scenario where Ace was killed for targeting the GF.
Ace
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States16096 Posts
February 13 2011 21:02 GMT
#460
On February 14 2011 05:43 aidnai wrote:
Wassup ACE?!?!

I'm going to full on role claim here, minus the red text of course.
Show nested quote +

You are Kagemusha

You’ve been around a long time. You’re a veteran, there is no doubt. But you’re also a bad kill choice. You see, back in the early days, there was a curse. “The curse of Kagemusha”. Whenever you were killed at night, the mafia immediately fell apart. Some say the curse still exists, others laugh...

You are Town
Victory condition: You win when all anti-town forces have been eliminated.


- Since my power was activated, I was being targeted as a kill, not a roleblock or anything else
- Since Ace was targeting me for the kill and he was affected by the curse which affects mafia, Ace was in fact mafia

My job here is done, if they kill me for realz they still can't shut me up lol
I highly recommend that any advice, opinions etc given by Ace from here on out be ignored.
Last thing to say, we'll hopefully know after tonight's KP if Ace was a GF or a grunt. I think probably a grunt was sent to kill, but Ace as GF is smart from mafia perspective so I dunno...


ooo now you done fucked up. I actually kidnapped you because of something I was told by kitaman. I was testing something out to see what would happen at night. So you sir, have failed in your analysis.

Math me up, scumboi. - Acrofales
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