• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 05:55
CET 11:55
KST 19:55
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners11Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation4Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada4SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA8StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!45$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship7
StarCraft 2
General
[TLMC] Fall/Winter 2025 Ladder Map Rotation Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Nov 3-9): Clem Conquers in Canada Craziest Micro Moments Of All Time? SC: Evo Complete - Ranked Ladder OPEN ALPHA
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest Tenacious Turtle Tussle Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 499 Chilling Adaptation Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection
Brood War
General
BW General Discussion FlaSh on: Biggest Problem With SnOw's Playstyle Terran 1:35 12 Gas Optimization BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
[BSL21] RO32 Group D - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group C - Saturday 21:00 CET [ASL20] Grand Finals [Megathread] Daily Proleagues
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Path of Exile Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Games Industry And ATVI
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread Formula 1 Discussion NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Dyadica Gospel – a Pulp No…
Hildegard
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1200 users

TL Mafia XXXVI - Page 75

Forum Index > TL Mafia
Post a Reply
Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 120 Next
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 01 2011 01:15 GMT
#1481
On February 01 2011 10:04 darmousseh wrote:
Omg I think we just missed a clue from day 2.

Show nested quote +
snapping aside branches


Quaterbacks snap the football right?

I'm definitely voting jackal58 tomorrow.



And there in the clearing, in the moonlight, Meapak_Ziph runs at full speed, jumping over roots, snapping aside branches. And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away...


This is where you got the quote from. If you caught the snapping part of the clue, then why didn't you also pointed out the characteristics of football player (not sure if that dude in Jackal's profile is the quarterback).

But it is very clear that the clues are characteristics of Meapak_Ziph, not the killer.
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
February 01 2011 01:20 GMT
#1482
On February 01 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?

Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.

Or as many of them call it "hand egg"

Only an ignorant American would presume all Americans have not spent years outside of the country.
Only a stupid person would suggest in a game with most people listing United States or USA as their country, the majority or a "shitpot" of people don't know who the Steelers are.

Take your pick
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2011 01:27 GMT
#1483
On February 01 2011 10:20 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?

Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.

Or as many of them call it "hand egg"

Only an ignorant American would presume all Americans have not spent years outside of the country.
Only a stupid person would suggest in a game with most people listing United States or USA as their country, the majority or a "shitpot" of people don't know who the Steelers are.

Take your pick

My god you can't read either.
Life can only kill you once.
darmousseh
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States3437 Posts
February 01 2011 01:30 GMT
#1484
On February 01 2011 10:15 LunarDestiny wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:04 darmousseh wrote:
Omg I think we just missed a clue from day 2.

snapping aside branches


Quaterbacks snap the football right?

I'm definitely voting jackal58 tomorrow.


Show nested quote +

And there in the clearing, in the moonlight, Meapak_Ziph runs at full speed, jumping over roots, snapping aside branches. And close behind him a black shape, only a blur in the darkness, gaining, about to grab, only a hand-length away...


This is where you got the quote from. If you caught the snapping part of the clue, then why didn't you also pointed out the characteristics of football player (not sure if that dude in Jackal's profile is the quarterback).

But it is very clear that the clues are characteristics of Meapak_Ziph, not the killer.


From my understanding the clues are mixed in the story everywhere.

I literally just found that clue when I posted that. The person in the photo is big ben from the steelers.

You can google this information if you do something like "player with number 7 on pittsburgh steelers".
Developer for http://mtgfiddle.com
SiNiquity
Profile Joined April 2010
United States734 Posts
February 01 2011 01:33 GMT
#1485
On February 01 2011 10:27 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:20 SiNiquity wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?

Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.

Or as many of them call it "hand egg"

Only an ignorant American would presume all Americans have not spent years outside of the country.
Only a stupid person would suggest in a game with most people listing United States or USA as their country, the majority or a "shitpot" of people don't know who the Steelers are.

Take your pick

My god you can't read either.

I see you've chosen the latter.
'i' before 'e' except after 'c' ~ it's scientifically proven.
Jackal58
Profile Joined November 2010
United States4264 Posts
February 01 2011 01:43 GMT
#1486
On February 01 2011 10:33 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:27 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 01 2011 10:20 SiNiquity wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?

Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.

Or as many of them call it "hand egg"

Only an ignorant American would presume all Americans have not spent years outside of the country.
Only a stupid person would suggest in a game with most people listing United States or USA as their country, the majority or a "shitpot" of people don't know who the Steelers are.

Take your pick

My god you can't read either.

I see you've chosen the latter.

I said posting a clue that people that aren't from the US wouldn't get is not very likely. You're the one that has issues with that. That makes you ignorant of the rest of the world.
I never claimed "majority" You said it not me.
Wtf is up with you?
Truth- Not everbody in this game is American.
Truth- Non Americans may or may not associate Ben Roethlisberger with any posted clues.
Truth- Using that as a clue makes no sense.
Truth- You are distorting what I said.
Truth- You can't comprehend what you read.
Life can only kill you once.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 01 2011 01:45 GMT
#1487
On February 01 2011 10:20 SiNiquity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 09:59 Jackal58 wrote:
On February 01 2011 09:56 SiNiquity wrote:
What?

Ignorant American. There are people in this game from countries all over the world.
Only an ignorant Americentric would assume the entire world follows our beloved game of football.

Or as many of them call it "hand egg"

Only an ignorant American would presume all Americans have not spent years outside of the country.
Only a stupid person would suggest in a game with most people listing United States or USA as their country, the majority or a "shitpot" of people don't know who the Steelers are.

Take your pick



completely irrelevant to towns main goal of finding scum.
stop spamming stupid shit.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 01 2011 01:45 GMT
#1488
On January 31 2011 21:59 Nemesis wrote:
Did everyone else miss this?
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 12:17 Divinek wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:13 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:11 Divinek wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:00 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:42 kitaman27 wrote:
[quote]

I find it hard to believe that a town could so readily differentiate between a mafia and SK. Both will lurk and the clues won't tell the difference. Calling someone a SK is more of a mafia tactic to either cast suspicion upon a town or divert the lynch from one of their own. If your vote is on jackal based on the fact that he is not a bodyguard, then why not go against someone you are pretty sure is anti-town in Nemesis.


[quote]

Err, another blue claim? Guess it already worked for Coag since he is still around. (Shouldn't have have gotten popped during the night?)

Since you are already claiming, would going into role specifics be something that could save you?

Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK

I'm Veteran.
But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls.

If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits.

Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.

I'm not responding to you anymore scum.


Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit?

No I can't I haven't attempted to get hit.


then why would you claim your role -_- it defeats the entire purpose of it

Because that option never occurred to me. I'm new at this and have a wicked habit of dying night one. First time I was something other than a vanilla townie.


It seems to me someone who actually had the role of veteran would take the few seconds back to understand the purpose of their role(in reality they'd probably think about it alot since y'know it's their role). So that seems to leave you as being the person who is not actually a veteran

Yes, jackal just claimed vet.
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:
If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits.

Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.



Let me just sum up the case against me so far:
Day 2:
- clues
- bum's analysis on me which somehow proves I'm SK. Although I would agree that bum's analysis was pretty good, I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that I am SK.
- "I think all the other lynch candidates are town, so I'm going to leave my vote on Nemesis even though I'm not sure he's scum"
Day 3:
- all of the above
- he somehow survived the last day's lynch so he must be scum

Do you really think those are strong arguments to lynch someone? :/


You know what I'll make it easy for you guys even though you don't even have a coherent case against me. If you believe jackal's vet claim, then vote for whoever you like, but if you don't believe his claim, then lynch jackal.

Did everyone miss this or does everyone really believe jackal's claim?
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LunarDestiny
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
United States4177 Posts
February 01 2011 01:46 GMT
#1489
On February 01 2011 09:54 Jackal58 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 09:46 SiNiquity wrote:
Flashes of steel > steeler jersey. Sorry.

At the same time I don't trust Kenpachi a bit and he's dead set on Nemesis dying. Hmm. An hour to go...

The biggest issue with that connection is there are a shitpot of people in the game that have no idea who the Steelers are.

Watch what you say. You never claimed majority but you did claim there are many.
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 01 2011 01:49 GMT
#1490
On February 01 2011 10:45 Nemesis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 31 2011 21:59 Nemesis wrote:
Did everyone else miss this?
On January 31 2011 12:17 Divinek wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:13 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:11 Divinek wrote:
On January 31 2011 12:00 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:58 kitaman27 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:55 Jackal58 wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:
On January 31 2011 11:46 Jackal58 wrote:
[quote]
Clues fit Nemesis. Nobody defended him on day 1. Ergo SK

I'm Veteran.
But you won't know that til I'm dead. What you will know is I'm town when the next census comes back 5. The only thing blue on Coag is his balls.

If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits.

Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.

I'm not responding to you anymore scum.


Can you display in some way what strategy you used to try and draw a hit?

No I can't I haven't attempted to get hit.


then why would you claim your role -_- it defeats the entire purpose of it

Because that option never occurred to me. I'm new at this and have a wicked habit of dying night one. First time I was something other than a vanilla townie.


It seems to me someone who actually had the role of veteran would take the few seconds back to understand the purpose of their role(in reality they'd probably think about it alot since y'know it's their role). So that seems to leave you as being the person who is not actually a veteran

Yes, jackal just claimed vet.
On January 31 2011 11:53 Nemesis wrote:
If you are a veteran, then you are the worst veteran ever. Vet's job is to take hits, and with your spammy posting which does not contribute anything, there was no way in hell you are going to take hits.

Nice blue claim to try and save your ass.



Let me just sum up the case against me so far:
Day 2:
- clues
- bum's analysis on me which somehow proves I'm SK. Although I would agree that bum's analysis was pretty good, I don't see how that leads to the conclusion that I am SK.
- "I think all the other lynch candidates are town, so I'm going to leave my vote on Nemesis even though I'm not sure he's scum"
Day 3:
- all of the above
- he somehow survived the last day's lynch so he must be scum

Do you really think those are strong arguments to lynch someone? :/


You know what I'll make it easy for you guys even though you don't even have a coherent case against me. If you believe jackal's vet claim, then vote for whoever you like, but if you don't believe his claim, then lynch jackal.

Did everyone miss this or does everyone really believe jackal's claim?


you still have yet to role claim.
i think you should.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 01 2011 01:50 GMT
#1491
Can we move the discussion of the game called "football" by many in the USA out of this thread? It's spam at this point.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 01 2011 01:52 GMT
#1492
if nemesis was actually town he would have roleclaimed at this point.
kitaman27 *
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
United States9245 Posts
February 01 2011 01:54 GMT
#1493
On February 01 2011 10:52 Coagulation wrote:
if nemesis was actually town he would have roleclaimed at this point.


He already claimed green I believe.
I'm better than dirt. Well, most kinds of dirt. I mean not that fancy store bought dirt. That stuffs loaded with nutrients. I... I can't compete with that stuff.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 01 2011 01:55 GMT
#1494
Bzzzz, you guys are too preoccupied with clues. Gratz to another mislynch.

Forget all my other suspects before, here are my new list:
jackal - I think I've already outlined my case against him several times.
deconduo - he has like 10 post TOTAL in this game. what? He has been pretty useless if he is town this game, but I think he is mafia with the way he's been trying to get me lynched and defending jackal.
Note: he did not even give an opinion on jackal
kav - I think that kav is town, but he needs to step up his game. If you think that town is heading in the wrong direction, then POINT them to the right direction. Don't be so passive. "I don't have a case against impervious so I'm just bandwagoning with town"
That attitude really bothers me. Find another target then, do some analysis. You have done shit this game except for having census power.
Coag - is town, but he is an idiot as usual

Coag, I already roleclaimed last day -_-
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 01 2011 01:55 GMT
#1495
Node Node Node! You have to use my night post!
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Coagulation
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States9633 Posts
February 01 2011 01:57 GMT
#1496
On February 01 2011 10:54 kitaman27 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 01 2011 10:52 Coagulation wrote:
if nemesis was actually town he would have roleclaimed at this point.


He already claimed green I believe.


Okie i must have missed it.
still convinced hes sk or mafia.
Nemesis
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Canada2568 Posts
February 01 2011 01:59 GMT
#1497
On February 01 2011 10:55 LSB wrote:
Node Node Node! You have to use my night post!

What, is town going to cook me and eat me? :X
Lee Young Ho fighting! KT P are just CHINTOSSTIC.
Kavdragon
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1251 Posts
February 01 2011 01:59 GMT
#1498
Terribly sorry if I'm wrong Nemesis. I did try my best, but I had some RL things grab my attention, and I wasn't able to really push for anyone else when i needed to.
I'm currently on an indefinite hiatus from TL =(
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
February 01 2011 02:02 GMT
#1499
Temporary Night post

Nemesis got lynched.

Full one will be posted once Node flashes his approval sign
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
Kenpachi
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
United States9908 Posts
February 01 2011 02:14 GMT
#1500
Yes gg nemesis
Nada's body is South Korea's greatest weapon.
Prev 1 73 74 75 76 77 120 Next
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 35m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 174
Reynor 0
StarCraft: Brood War
Britney 49830
Hyuk 3730
Rain 3190
Horang2 2766
Calm 1331
Backho 849
Flash 700
Soma 326
Pusan 321
Rush 206
[ Show more ]
Stork 203
Last 172
ZerO 152
Soulkey 95
Killer 91
zelot 59
Aegong 41
JulyZerg 36
sSak 36
hero 34
NaDa 32
Barracks 25
Noble 15
Terrorterran 11
Hm[arnc] 5
Dota 2
XcaliburYe245
Counter-Strike
fl0m1883
olofmeister918
shoxiejesuss508
x6flipin227
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King181
Other Games
ceh9596
Pyrionflax244
Happy221
crisheroes209
oskar65
B2W.Neo56
QueenE20
ZerO(Twitch)10
Organizations
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 11 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH204
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Upcoming Events
OSC
35m
Percival vs Cham
Spirit vs Harstem
Cure vs TBD
Krystianer vs TBD
Kung Fu Cup
1h 5m
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
12h 5m
The PondCast
23h 5m
RSL Revival
23h 5m
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
1d 1h
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d 1h
PiGosaur Monday
1d 14h
RSL Revival
1d 23h
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
2 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
2 days
RSL Revival
2 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Kung Fu Cup
3 days
IPSL
3 days
ZZZero vs rasowy
Napoleon vs KameZerg
BSL 21
3 days
Tarson vs Julia
Doodle vs OldBoy
eOnzErG vs WolFix
StRyKeR vs Aeternum
Sparkling Tuna Cup
3 days
RSL Revival
3 days
Reynor vs sOs
Maru vs Ryung
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
BSL 21
4 days
JDConan vs Semih
Dragon vs Dienmax
Tech vs NewOcean
TerrOr vs Artosis
IPSL
4 days
Dewalt vs WolFix
eOnzErG vs Bonyth
Wardi Open
5 days
Monday Night Weeklies
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
The PondCast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2025-11-07
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.