Pick Your Power Mafia 3! - Page 48

On January 14 2011 14:15 LSB wrote:
I think this senario could be a lot clearer after finding out your intentions

Vote Fishball

As for Kenpachi not being godfather, that would mean someone above BC is the godfather, and when I look at the role list it seems unlikely.

On January 14 2011 07:55 aidnai wrote:
Here's why I think BC is scum.

1)

By BC's own logic, we are left with a damn good chance that either BC or fishball is red, and BC has given more reasons why he's a better lynch.

2) disappears for 48 hours. As an experienced player, you're always a night kill target. If you're gonna have any effect on the game as a townie, you better get it done before the day 2 post comes up. BC had like 15 posts total before today.

If you're scum though, sure, lay low as long as there's already chaos and the lynch targets are all townies (yesterday, the lynch targets were RoL and Jackal, both green).

3) resurfaces with FOS's on Kenpachi, Cubed, and LSB. It looks to me like BC is just throwing out enough accusations to see what sticks so town will be occupied with deciding to lynch either a town GF, a likely town doctor, or our town leader. Although I will readily admit that ken picking godfather is weird, and it's possible he saved JOAT for a scum further down the draft. And cubed I was suspicious of before today, but less so after his claim.

4) He picked godfather?! this role is much more useful to scum than town (because of alignment checks), so um, why pick it over something like doctor? if you are thinking you won't live long, why not hider or bulletproof or vet? or a one time use like witch? or if you want to deny scum a role, how about prince of darkness or janitor, which are both pretty dangerous for town?

However, I think as a mafia, GF is a great choice for BC. BC should be a prime target for an alignment check, since he's an experienced player AND hard to read, so GF for him could save the scum team a lot of headaches...

Speaking of alignment checks,



What did you find out last night?

On January 12 2011 04:53 LSB wrote:
aidnai. Can you please roleclaim?

On January 14 2011 14:15 LSB wrote:
I think this senario could be a lot clearer after finding out your intentions

Vote Fishball

As for Kenpachi not being godfather, that would mean someone above BC is the godfather, and when I look at the role list it seems unlikely.

On January 14 2011 12:20 aidnai wrote:
omg I have a new profile pic!
Thanks Bum!

BTW bum, I'm sorry you're pictures didn't make it clear enough for me. Did you say you tracked LSB somewhere? or got actual information? LSB has made my eyebrows raise a couple times, for instance,


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As well as

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LSB total in-thread post count: 148 = 1/6th of all posts in a 30 player game = 5x average persons post count.

But does all that make him scum? DrH for example has a history of spamming the thread, bossing the town around, asking for roleclaims, etc as an actual townie. It's easy to do when you don't trust anyone else to lead the town or make decisions. I'm conflicted trying to read him...

One thing LSB did that doesn't make sense from a scum point of view: he told me to save barundar, who was very possibly the mafia's hit. Blue snipe, good role, LSB told me that's who I should save. Unfortunate that he was a minute or two late to tell me, but since Barundar flipped, we know LSB's pick would have in fact saved town/bullet bill...

Also, I don't think it's likely that both LSB and BC are scum. Perhaps one scum, one SK, but how likely is that? not very in my opinion. And of the two of them, only LSB has a justifiable reason for picking GF. So I'm sticking to my guns on this one. Shoot BC.

On January 14 2011 14:30 kitaman27 wrote:
Fishball rather than arguing about semantics, since you are the only one in the top 8 not to claim, why not join the party? Might shed some light on the traitor situation. Your reasoning for ignoring the traitor is out of date as the majority of suspects are either dead or have the ability to prove their role.



LSB is addressing Fishball with that post. He isn't saying kenpachi isn't the godfather.

On January 14 2011 05:00 Fishball wrote:
So are we trying to pin Mafia for this lynch, or are we going for the Traitor? I've already mentioned why we shouldn't focus on finding the Traitor a couple days ago, but with me being a candidate as well, my credibility is shot. Hopefully you guys can choose the best course of action.

Point 3 time.
I start to post, (much like I promised I would the night before!) and post analysis. I try to emphasis on the idiodicness of kenpachi taking gf as #2 pick based on his arguments. Simple FoS that hey, I wasnt the only one to make.
The FoS on cube. Guess what, he lied. Plain and simple he lied, straight up, made a generic assumption no one would be smart enough to double check the role list, and I called him out on it. Factor in hes a suspect for traitor and it makes him look all the more guilty. Then for LSB, guess what, everything I posted is accurate. Look at the posts, analyze it. The guy has not been behaving in the best interest of the town. Anyone can see that with the posts brought up. Yet here you are defending him, interesting.

On January 14 2011 14:37 BloodyC0bbler wrote:
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You just quoted posts of LSB's that are contradicting in nature and still want me dead.....that is perhaps the most hilarious thing I have ever seen. As for justifiable reasons for picking GF, he had none aside from a scum made plan...one he didn't fully follow as guess what. HE DIDN"T CLAIM HIS ROLE WAS TAKEN. which was part of his plan, he was one of the roles marked in red. You can say he had a "justifiable reason" for taking his role, but he then failed to follow through on his plan and began role fishing for information.

You also compare him to DrH, who has a history of doing the same thing as LSB, and leading town's to terrrrrrible outcomes. Remember in the first bootcamp game where he lost the game for the town by day 2? Yea, that's the level of player you just compared lsb to, someone who as town throws the game away. Yet you still are following him? You're seeing a player who is obviously not playing town sided, one who lies, and yet you still want me dead?

Are you really playing this stupidly?

On January 14 2011 15:36 aidnai wrote:
Here's what's stupid, BC:



We're all busy. I have a job too. And spamming the thread just makes it hard to sort through anything. Therefore, you have to pick your battles. You have to post carefully and stay focussed. When you think you found a scum, you have to make your case and follow through.

Even if you brought up legitimate points against LSB cubed and kenpachi (which I acknowledged in my original post), you're not following through, you're not trying to convince us they're scum, you're just throwing it out there to see if we'll bite. Tell me, do you really think all three of them are scum? Even here as you are defending your FOS's, you're not accusing them of actually being scum, you're just criticizing their play. But townies make mistakes, and bad townie =/= scum. Scumhunting 101.



You're doing it again-- equating bad town play with scum play. It's not the same, even bad townies want the town to win. Lynching a bad townie gets you closer to a scum win, not a town win. So tell us, is LSB scum or a bad townie?

Your attack on DrH by the way is over the top. Luck conspired against town in salem as well as bad play. DrH was goaded into forming a circle by a random medic claim. Southrawrea happened to be chosen as godfather, and happened to be checked by the DT night 1. Although DrH was entirely too focussed on the town circle, his analysis did correctly identify Radfield and Jimbosilvers as scum as the game progressed.

Also, I'm not aware of LSB or DrH having a particularly bad record of leading towns to terrrrrrible outcomes. But I guess you've been around longer...

I still think you are scum (or maybe SK?).

On January 14 2011 14:24 BloodyC0bbler wrote:







Regardless of you saying its a lie, you voted for him, showing that even if you "disagreed" with the wagon you still jumped on it. No excuse at all. If you have convictions that someone is town, you don't vote for them, period.

Also LSB, speculating on who has what role is awesome, but guess what, its also fing useless to a degree. We can figure out till the cows come home that someone is a medic, however, that doesn't tell us if they are mafia. YOUR ACTIONS ALL GAME HAVE BEEN ANTI TOWN. Simple. You may just be playing horrifically as town, but when every action is anti town, that says a lot about the player.

However, you getting random people to rise up and defend you is supplying the town with information it needs to find the reds, cause this sort of situation flushes them out nicely.

On January 14 2011 22:35 BloodyC0bbler wrote:


dude, again, this shows your lack of experience. I DISPLAYED WHERE THEIR ERROR WAS. When someone makes a massive fuck up you FoS them, period. Of the three I have pointed out two were FoS, and one is a legimate push. You can easily tell the difference based on the level of analysis I did on LSB compared to the other two.

As for salem. As the host I can say there were multiple situations going on, and the only "unlucky" side was mafia infiltrating the circle as quickly as it did. The general pretense on which the game was played was bad. The writeups and general opinions on that game have been written and have pointed out the flaws of that game. I only used it as you compared LSB and DrH, and I opted for a game that most shows the correlation between the two as LSB has a habit of making plans I disagree with/I think are bad.

On January 15 2011 01:26 deconduo wrote:
Have you guys decided who you want me to day vig yet?

On January 15 2011 03:05 HaploPaithan wrote:
LSB, Fishball being a traitor has nothing to do with you being scum/SK. Its extremely stupid to lynch you just because Fishball is a townie or to not lynch you just because Fishball was a traitor.
We will very likely be lynching Fishball soon. You aren't making yourself look any better by making such a stupid offer.