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On November 17 2010 10:58 Pandain wrote:From me to Hesmyyr:meesa Hopeful Traitor
if meesa guess correctly mafia, meesa get to become mafia!!!
if no, then me stay town
I hope me right.
me right?Hesmyyr no responde. Yet he respond in thread twice after? And probably 5 minutes after or somethign? Meesa think he delaying, talking to mafia, pming host to find out. MEESA SUSCIPCIOUS meesa have ADHD.
Now, Hesmyrr has had ample time to reply to it. But why has he not. He even posted afterwards, so he must have saw it. And I pmed him, even twice. Yet he's not responding to it.
If he was town, he would have either
1. Said he was town
2.Posted this in thread, revealed.
3.at least replied to this.
Yet he has done neither. The only real explanation I can think of is that he was delaying, to either figure out what plan to do(talk with buddies...pm caller etc.)
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On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known.Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain.
It has already been confirmed that townies are not technically allied in the sense that mafia is allied, so they wouldn't know each others' roles (for sure). So IF they were on the same team, they would be non-town at the very least.
At least, that's how I understand it.
Edit: format
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Pandain I didn't reply to all of your PMs the minute they were sent. Same with jcarl's.
Does that make me Scum?
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On November 17 2010 11:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? [blue]So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known.[/blue[ Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. It has already been confirmed that townies are not technically allied in the sense that mafia is allied, so they wouldn't know each others' roles (for sure). So IF they were on the same team, they would be non-town at the very least. At least, that's how I understand it.
Masons.
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On November 17 2010 11:09 Ace wrote:
Pandain I didn't reply to all of your PMs the minute they were sent. Same with jcarl's.
Does that make me Scum?
1.I've posted in thread
2.It's been at least 5 minutes
I don't understand why you're doing all this. It seems to me your just actively trying to deny any accusation towards him.
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On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain.
Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation
-.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525
The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken"
All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claim
You seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed.
13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you?
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On November 17 2010 11:09 Ace wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? [blue]So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known.[/blue[ Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. It has already been confirmed that townies are not technically allied in the sense that mafia is allied, so they wouldn't know each others' roles (for sure). So IF they were on the same team, they would be non-town at the very least. At least, that's how I understand it. Masons.
Oh...I thought that Masons weren't town, but I guess they are. Disregard then I guess. I still find it somewhat suspicious.
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On November 17 2010 11:11 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:09 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 11:09 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? [blue]So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known.[/blue[ Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. It has already been confirmed that townies are not technically allied in the sense that mafia is allied, so they wouldn't know each others' roles (for sure). So IF they were on the same team, they would be non-town at the very least. At least, that's how I understand it. Masons. Oh...I thought that Masons weren't town, but I guess they are. Disregard then I guess. I still find it somewhat suspicious.
WTF Masons? More useless speculation.
What are we playing? The Lottery?
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No, because I don't play around with PM land like other TLer's seem to have penchant for. My sole argument stays that I really thought that the majority of people believed that 13 had been attacked, and therefore asked who did it. If you believe that really is lynch-worthy argument so be it.
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On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you?
More of the argument is why should you trust 17's claim? For all you know, 17 could have been scum claiming to you, or even a third faction.
I doubt that if 17 were to claim to you, he would throw a friend into the crosshairs. So I think it can be said with certainty, that 17 was either town or non-town, non-13 allied.
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To my understanding 17 was eliminated already, and I still do not understand if eliminated players can communicate with those still in the game? I actually want Caller to clarify on this, because this day has nothing but you trying to attack me all day after I somehow managed to survive the night.
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On November 17 2010 11:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you? More of the argument is why should you trust 17's claim? For all you know, 17 could have been scum claiming to you, or even a third faction. I doubt that if 17 were to claim to you, he would throw a friend into the crosshairs. So I think it can be said with certainty, that 17 was either town or non-town, non-13 allied.
Okay, lets say country 17 in reality was Rastaban, and Infun claimed to me.
Rastaban posts in thread. "NO I'M 17"
Then I immediately know that Infun is lying and mafia. (Well I'll know that either Rastaban or Infun is mafia)
Mafia would not fake claim a country. It is too dangerous.
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On November 17 2010 11:16 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you? More of the argument is why should you trust 17's claim? For all you know, 17 could have been scum claiming to you, or even a third faction. I doubt that if 17 were to claim to you, he would throw a friend into the crosshairs. So I think it can be said with certainty, that 17 was either town or non-town, non-13 allied. Okay, lets say country 17 in reality was Rastaban, and Infun claimed to me. Rastaban posts in thread. "NO I'M 17" Then I immediately know that Infun is lying and mafia. (Well I'll know that either Rastaban or Infun is mafia) Mafia would not fake claim a country. It is too dangerous.
Nooooo, you're still misunderstanding.
Suppose whoever claimed to you really was 17. Ok, fine. How can you be sure that 17 was town?
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On November 17 2010 11:16 Hesmyrr wrote:
To my understanding 17 was eliminated already, and I still do not understand if eliminated players can communicate with those still in the game? I actually want Caller to clarify on this, because this day has nothing but you trying to attack me all day after I somehow managed to survive the night.
Eliminated Players can still talk. They may be put back into the game.
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On November 17 2010 11:10 Pandain wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:09 Ace wrote:
Pandain I didn't reply to all of your PMs the minute they were sent. Same with jcarl's.
Does that make me Scum? 1.I've posted in thread 2.It's been at least 5 minutes I don't understand why you're doing all this. It seems to me your just actively trying to deny any accusation towards him.
I am. What's the problem with it?
On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you?
It's not bullshit. Day 1 you and kj somehow misread some simple rules and come up with some fabulous lie that explains Hessmyrr is scum until I shoot that down. I showed in two ways how that couldn't be possible even if you believed the rules worked the way they did. See the problem here? You are smart right? So there is no way you could have messed up that bad.
Hence I feel as if you are really trying to get Hessmyrr lynched because you want one guy out of the game because it makes your alliance stronger. Even funnier is Pandain is in PM land asking me silly questions again, and he bandwagon voted so fast for Hessmyrr.
Your alliance tried to attack him last night also and got butt hurt that he moved and now you're stuck.
So why should I believe your shoddy case against Hessmyrr when so far all I can see is blind fanaticism to get rid of him?
Likewise for people wondering why neutrals aren't popped - why take neutrals when you can take other players out? +1 vote is less useful than +1 vote and -1 to another player.
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sent PM to Caller whether eliminated player can talk/post in thread.
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On November 17 2010 11:18 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:16 Hesmyrr wrote:
To my understanding 17 was eliminated already, and I still do not understand if eliminated players can communicate with those still in the game? I actually want Caller to clarify on this, because this day has nothing but you trying to attack me all day after I somehow managed to survive the night. Eliminated Players can still talk. They may be put back into the game.
How do you know this? Has Caller told you?
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On November 17 2010 11:16 LSB wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you? More of the argument is why should you trust 17's claim? For all you know, 17 could have been scum claiming to you, or even a third faction. I doubt that if 17 were to claim to you, he would throw a friend into the crosshairs. So I think it can be said with certainty, that 17 was either town or non-town, non-13 allied. Okay, lets say country 17 in reality was Rastaban, and Infun claimed to me. Rastaban posts in thread. "NO I'M 17" Then I immediately know that Infun is lying and mafia. (Well I'll know that either Rastaban or Infun is mafia) Mafia would not fake claim a country. It is too dangerous.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA! That's a good one.
Hi guys I'm 16!
Prove me wrong.
Yo can't short of seeing me die and hoping Caller flips countries on death.
Hell as Scum I just claimed a role that didn't exist last game and people believed it.
Scum claim whatever they feel like. So unless YOU have some information that says otherwise then share with us.
Then again, maybe you are Scum and came to that conclusion with your scum team yourself.
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Caller when/do you ever flip?
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On November 17 2010 11:18 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2010 11:16 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 11:14 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 17 2010 11:11 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 11:04 Ace wrote:On November 17 2010 10:58 LSB wrote:On November 17 2010 10:55 Hesmyrr wrote:
Can you specifically address which part, because I do not understand "Either that or 13 is an elite soilder" could mean anything but that 13 was attacked and I will abide by that position unless you tell me what I am getting wrong. Also how am I supposed to explain a PM from someone I never had contact with?
Also lol at fishing attempt. We were clearly talking about who attacked 14. Two people must have attacked 14 (We now know that this is not the case), so from process of elimination we narrowed it down to 17 and 13. How in the world did you get 13 was attacked from that? I don't know what you are trying to explain away, but your just a thrashing scum. So then why aren't you concerned about who attacked 18? 15 and 16 are both ya know, sitting right there. I'm not buying this. You don't know 17's affiliation but yet trust his PM and somehow that leads to THIS GUY MUST BE SCUM! Or is it that Hessmyrr figures that 13 must have been attacked and that means Hessmyrr is scum? So let's say 13 and Hessmyrr are allied but are both town so Hessmyrr knows 13's role. Hessmyrr slips up and gives away information that he should not have known. Considering almost everyone in here is talking through PMs (the thread is dead because of it) and I myself have had about 6 people try to rolefish me (lol) then how does this prove Hessmyrr is Scum?Explain. Your entire argument is full of useless bullshit speculation -.- I've already explained 18. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=165431¤tpage=27#525The issue here is why was 13 protected, even though that 17 was attacking him. I find it interesting that you immediately divert focus from this pressing problem and throw up something dumb like, "Oh! Why wasn't 18 taken" All right. Country 17, if you did not PM me, please claimYou seriously considering this? This argument is as stupid as the "Oh hey! The watcher is labled wrong" argument. If the person who PMed me isn't country 17. It is incredibly easy to get a counter claim, and then boom. Mafia is revealed. 13 Claimed to Hesmyrr? All right Hesmyrr. Please confirm. Did 13 roleclaim to you? More of the argument is why should you trust 17's claim? For all you know, 17 could have been scum claiming to you, or even a third faction. I doubt that if 17 were to claim to you, he would throw a friend into the crosshairs. So I think it can be said with certainty, that 17 was either town or non-town, non-13 allied. Okay, lets say country 17 in reality was Rastaban, and Infun claimed to me. Rastaban posts in thread. "NO I'M 17" Then I immediately know that Infun is lying and mafia. (Well I'll know that either Rastaban or Infun is mafia) Mafia would not fake claim a country. It is too dangerous. Nooooo, you're still misunderstanding. Suppose whoever claimed to you really was 17. Ok, fine. How can you be sure that 17 was town?
The difference between the town and the mafia is that the mafia has lots of information and the town doesn't. There is no reason for the mafia to share information with the town.
Secondly, if mafia really wanted to disrupt stuff, they would have claimed to be country 24 and say that they were attacked.
The fact that 17 attacked 13 is interesting because it means that 13 is either elite soilder or mafia. But we don't know who 13 is.
It would be useless for the mafia to claim that.
The only reason why it is important is because Hesmyrr slipped up and said he knew that 13 was attacked. I received the information from 17 before hesmyrr wrote that post, so 17 would have no idea this would happen
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