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On November 01 2010 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:35 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one? Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are. I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though. On November 01 2010 04:28 youngminii wrote:Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so" On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard? I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not. I don't see why not. I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim. Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say. I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists? What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards? I was not told that another exists.
Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role.
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...and here I was thinking I'd draw attention to myself if I role-claimed. Hah.
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You guys are idiots, so many roleclaims already-.-
We should also stop with the WIFOM of what other things "roles" can do as it is just WIFOM. Let's stick to what we know.
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On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:35 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one? Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are. I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though. On November 01 2010 04:28 youngminii wrote:Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so" On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard? I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not. I don't see why not. I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim. Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say. I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists? What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards? I was not told that another exists. Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role.
I...*sigh*
Bodyguards want to be secret, once they are out in the open, they are so much more vulnerable. I do understand your logic, but just think about it. Now, since the Mafia knows of your identity, they could very easily role block you (assuming there is a role blocker) and kill you the same night. They have a 50/50 shot at getting it, more than enough odds to be comfortable doing so. Once you're gone, Dr.H is up for grabs. I honestly think claiming was not a smart move.
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On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why would you say this if you only think there are 2 bodyguards because of dcx's 'claim'?
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On November 01 2010 04:46 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why would you say this if you only think there are 2 bodyguards because of dcx's 'claim'? great catch
it's possible this is a mafia play to waste medic actions on alternating days?
perhaps mafia can sub in a bodyguard? a DT should check aeres
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On November 01 2010 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:35 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one? Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are. I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though. On November 01 2010 04:28 youngminii wrote:Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so" On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard? I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not. I don't see why not. I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim. Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say. I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists? What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards? I was not told that another exists. Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role. I...*sigh* Bodyguards want to be secret, once they are out in the open, they are so much more vulnerable. I do understand your logic, but just think about it. Now, since the Mafia knows of your identity, they could very easily role block you (assuming there is a role blocker) and kill you the same night. They have a 50/50 shot at getting it, more than enough odds to be comfortable doing so. Once you're gone, Dr.H is up for grabs. I honestly think claiming was not a smart move.
My role is called the "Cruiseship Captain". I am eligible to PM a mod in order to set sail for the ocean and leave town for the night, thus becoming immune to any and all night actions (positive and negative alike, including roleblocks and DT checks). I am not permitted to set sail on consecutive nights.
Yeah, it may not have been the smartest move to make, but this is only my second Mafia game. Last game, I was far more reticent than I am now... I'm trying to compare playstyles. = /
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On November 01 2010 04:46 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why would you say this if you only think there are 2 bodyguards because of dcx's 'claim'? ... This is true. It was a slip of the tongue, and obviously illogical, so I have no defense for this. My word may not mean much at this point, but I am indeed town.
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On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals.
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On November 01 2010 04:47 Aeres wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:45 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:38 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:35 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:28 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. As has been stated before (and most likely again later), this is INSANE Mafia. We have no idea what Artanis and LSB are capable of throwing at us. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. When you got the PM saying you're a bodyguard, did it tell you that there are two bodyguards? Or do you just think that DC is the other one? Bodyguards are not told who the other Bodyguards are. I do not know for sure if DC is a Bodyguard... it is possible that he is not. My suspicion is that he is, though. On November 01 2010 04:28 youngminii wrote:Yeah but that's just saying "IF there's a role like the one Aeres is claiming then it would be so" On November 01 2010 04:24 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:21 infinitestory wrote:On November 01 2010 04:16 Aeres wrote:On November 01 2010 04:14 DoctorHelvetica wrote: i was just thinking "why the fuck would you do that oh my god"
but then I read the rest of your post and that you can survive a short while without medics. I'm not sure it was necessary to claim. If the Mafia thought the only bodyguard was dead, they might waste hits on me, even stack them. Yeah, I might have been a bit hasty, but I can at least control the times I am vulnerable and the times I am not. I would think that the time stalled for by roleclaiming would be equal to the time stalled by Mafia hitting you in vain. I don't know whether Artanis would give us such a blatant lie, i.e. about the number of bodyguards. If you are, as you claim, a bodyguard, then I think that makes DCXLVI highly suspicious. I hope that DC actually isn't a Bodyguard as he implied. If he wasn't, that means there's still a hidden Bodyguard out there, and I can stall for time while the Mafia searches for the hidden one. In that period, we can coalesce into a more organized town and start trying to get at the Mafia. Why are you so sure there are 2 bodyguards? Wasn't your logic behind the 1 bodyguard theory based on the assumption that DCX is a bodyguard? I want to ask you guys something too. Would it be a good idea to analyze the Murrayitis's mechanics and how it would affect the game in the long run? I think I find it's interesting but I'm not sure if other players agree or not. I don't see why not. I'm only going on what I received in the PM. As of now, I am operating under the assumption that there are 2 Bodyguards. Unless someone brings up evidence to the contrary, (i.e. DC's role being revealed) I will keep that claim. Perhaps I am being deceived here, but I honestly cannot say. I know you aren't told who the other bodyguard is, but were you told that another one exists? What reason do you have to operate under the assumption of two bodyguards? I was not told that another exists. Again, all I have to go on is the idea that DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) basically roleclaimed. However, my belief was that if he was killed by the Mafia, the Mafia would target the influential, outspoken people so far, of which I happen to be one (maybe bias here, but whatevs). By keeping my role a secret, I wouldn't know when the Mafia might try and nightkill me, so my ability to predict an attack and set sail would be hampered. By letting the Mafia know, I can set a schedule on which I can alternate between sailing and Medic protection to stall for time.... at least until I run out of uses for my role. I...*sigh* Bodyguards want to be secret, once they are out in the open, they are so much more vulnerable. I do understand your logic, but just think about it. Now, since the Mafia knows of your identity, they could very easily role block you (assuming there is a role blocker) and kill you the same night. They have a 50/50 shot at getting it, more than enough odds to be comfortable doing so. Once you're gone, Dr.H is up for grabs. I honestly think claiming was not a smart move. Show nested quote +My role is called the "Cruiseship Captain". I am eligible to PM a mod in order to set sail for the ocean and leave town for the night, thus becoming immune to any and all night actions (positive and negative alike, including roleblocks and DT checks). I am not permitted to set sail on consecutive nights. Yeah, it may not have been the smartest move to make, but this is only my second Mafia game. Last game, I was far more reticent than I am now... I'm trying to compare playstyles. = /
Ah, ok, I missed the fine print.
But the fact that you are operating under the assumption there is another hidden guard is really dangerous.
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On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals.
Hah, I noticed that when I saw it yesterday. That sneaky devil.
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On November 01 2010 04:51 jcarlsoniv wrote: Ah, ok, I missed the fine print.
But the fact that you are operating under the assumption there is another hidden guard is really dangerous. I probably should have thought things through before trying to do something like this. >_<
Oh, well... practice makes perfect?
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On November 01 2010 04:22 youngminii wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:20 Artanis[Xp] wrote:f a player is "gone for the night", would that player also be able to protect me if they were a bodyguard that same night? If Aeres hypothetically is the second bodyguard and my other bodyguard is dead: Aeres leaves for the night and the mafia hits me. Do I survive? This is a question too hypothetical to answer as it would require me to confirm or deny roles and give too much information away. Translation: Aeres is scum and he's making up the role. By answering this question, I would be confirming the existence of the fake role and as such, I can't give a real answer. Maybe.
You got it wrong.
Translation : This is a question too hypothetical to answer as it would require me to confirm or deny roles and give too much information away.
He meant what he typed.
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On November 01 2010 04:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals. Hah, I noticed that when I saw it yesterday. That sneaky devil. i see what you did there
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On November 01 2010 04:54 infinitestory wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:51 jcarlsoniv wrote:On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals. Hah, I noticed that when I saw it yesterday. That sneaky devil. i see what you did there Lol. Jcarlson, you'ze a clever guy.
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On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals.
I'm pretty sure DCLXVI would be 666, DCXLVI is 646
^^
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On November 01 2010 04:56 Glasse wrote:Show nested quote +On November 01 2010 04:50 Artanis[Xp] wrote:On November 01 2010 04:41 Aeres wrote: DCXLVI (God, what a hard name to remember) Funbit of info: His name is actually 666 in roman numericals. I'm pretty sure DCLXVI would be 666, DCXLVI is 646 ^^
i went back and looked at his name in the name list and you said it wrong, his name is indeed 666
:3
way to make mistakes!
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On November 01 2010 04:17 youngminii wrote:He didn't PM me, he seems to be using "why aren't you PMing others" as an argument. Show nested quote +If you can't explain in thread, then I would suggest we somehow incorporate youngminii into a pming circle Show nested quote +I don't want him to claim in thread if it hurts(thus through pms) and I don't even want him to claim entirely Sorry Pandain, you're not an idiot, your arguments are.
Love it. It's almost comical
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Yes, but his name is indeed DCLXVI. If you find it hard to remember, it's just the first 6 roman numerals in reverse order (I, V, X, L, C, D). It just happens to be 666 if "spelled backwards", it stirred up quite a fuss in religious books but let's move on and call him "useless-claim" or something.
I can't way to see what sh*t goes down in night one.
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On November 01 2010 05:06 CubEdIn wrote: Yes, but his name is indeed DCLXVI. If you find it hard to remember, it's just the first 6 roman numerals in reverse order (I, V, X, L, C, D). It just happens to be 666 if "spelled backwards", it stirred
that is quite amazing!
meow
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