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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
On November 07 2010 08:57 NB wrote: OMG, IM ALIVE xD.... Thank you medic :3.... i was assuming that ima die and didnt post anything, sorry guys T_T NB did you actually get a message that you were protected by medic or did you just assume that you were since you didn't die seeing as DrH was actually switch with someone(most likely you) by bus driver and died because of it? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
Don't start playing dumb. Stay sharp and really think about things. Don't make insane assumptions, avenge my death! | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 07 2010 11:21 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Good luck town. Don't start playing dumb. Stay sharp and really think about things. Don't make insane assumptions, avenge my death! I think a couple people still think you're scum :p Still waiting on Pandain to reveal his findings. | ||
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ghrur
United States3786 Posts
And dangit Dr. H, I placed it originally on you because I thought you would never die )=<. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
Anyway, I think it's safe to say Pandain's been supported/protected by Coag a lot more than a normal townie would have. Sorry Pandain but one of my votes goes to you. Unless you can convince me otherwise ofc. Who else is there to choose from? I remember a case on Nemesis, can we get an update on him. Also, can someone do an analysis on L? I feel as if he's been a bit weak, if we look at him as a townie. His town play is usually very, very strong (targets and analyses scum well) but as far as I can remember, that hasn't been happening this game. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
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infinitestory
United States4053 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:17 youngminii wrote: Holy shit lol, I didn't even realise it was night, looks like I changed my vote to Coag a bit late. Anyway, I think it's safe to say Pandain's been supported/protected by Coag a lot more than a normal townie would have. Sorry Pandain but one of my votes goes to you. Unless you can convince me otherwise ofc. Who else is there to choose from? I remember a case on Nemesis, can we get an update on him. Also, can someone do an analysis on L? I feel as if he's been a bit weak, if we look at him as a townie. His town play is usually very, very strong (targets and analyses scum well) but as far as I can remember, that hasn't been happening this game. actually, the case on Nemesis was due to L (according to Nemesis himself anyway, and my memory agrees with that). It wasn't a particularly strong case either iirc. Remember that Pandain checked Nemesis to be town, so if Pandain is telling the truth (and it's looking like that, thanks to KtheZ), then Nemesis is town. As for L, I agree that his analysis has been weak. He firmly accused Cubed of having "more to his role" than what Cubed told us (which is a wrong accusation, judging from the revelation of Cubed's role PM) as well as putting forth a case against Nemesis, I think. I think we might also want to look at Ace for two reasons: 1) He started the Aeres bandwagon and made a post after the lynch to the effect of "If I could do that over, I would still push that lynch" I think. 2) bum's last PM to him said "If you're mafia, lynch me fast" at the end. DrH, who revealed this PM, promptly dies, although I don't know if that is necessarily relevant. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
I must've missed the post from KtheZ, will go back and look for it. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
Secondly I was never accused by Dr.H or bum of being Scum. Bum said IF I'm mafia to kill him in a PM - a PM I revealed along with my entire conversation history with bum. So explain how that paints me as scummy? Also if we are going to go the route of an innocent player died so let's look at who was interacting with him then you yourself would be a prime suspect. Dr.H didn't exactly trust you and I don't either. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 07 2010 08:22 KtheZ wrote: + Show Spoiler + Considering that the state of the town is in complete disarray, I will now roleclaim. I am the detective. However, I suspect that I am an "insane detective". The reasons and my finding will be below. On night 1, I forgot to investigate anyone, being the lurker dumbass I was. On night 2, I investigated Pandain. I found him to be the MAFIA Garbage collector. On night 3, I investigated infinitestory, and found him to be the MAFIA ADD detective. Now, what the hell? Why would the mafia have an ADD Detective? This has led me to conclude that I am insane. Now, assuming I'm an insane detective, it is apparent that Pandain and infinitestory are town-aligned. I am no longer into lynching pandain; I had found him to be mafia, which is why i was so ardent in pursuing his lynch. I feel that infinitestory's results are now trustworthy, and that pandain did not lie about his role. If you think I am lying, look at my posts against pandain. I was so one-mindedly pursuing pandain because I thought he was mafia. However, this night has confirmed my sad suspicion that I am "insane". Can't believe I missed this, heh. I think he might be a paranoid detective. Or maybe he really is insane. Or maybe you're a normal detective and both Pandain and infinitestory are scum (doubt it, since infinitestory would have basically bussed Coag for no reason, always a possibility). Or maybe you're scum with a fake roleclaim. I just don't buy the fact that Pandain is town. I say we go ahead with his lynch. | ||
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kitaman27
United States9245 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:42 Ace wrote: I started the Aeres and the Pandain bandwagon. Both of which I said were scummy. Before K's DT check most of us agreed Pandain was scum. I don't see where the issue is there. What are you going to do, lynch me because I pointed out lots of scum play between them both? Secondly I was never accused by Dr.H or bum of being Scum. Bum said IF I'm mafia to kill him in a PM - a PM I revealed along with my entire conversation history with bum. So explain how that paints me as scummy? Also if we are going to go the route of an innocent player died so let's look at who was interacting with him then you yourself would be a prime suspect. Dr.H didn't exactly trust you and I don't either. Since you are so great at starting bandwagons then, who should be next? We need to come up with two and I don't really see a lot of options at the moment >.< | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
Btw, KtheZ, you checked me and got Garbage collector, correct? | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
+ Show Spoiler + On November 05 2010 03:02 DoctorHelvetica wrote: Here's everyone who hasn't voted yet afaik: Lexpar Hyperbola Amber[LighT] Beneather Coagulation Hyperbola has been SUPER inactive this game, but isn't that off considering he ran for mayor on the basis of his great analysis and being a good player (rather than his role): A hostile defense and further claims that he is a good scumhunter with a keen eye. No leaks in the town circle? What town circle, considering as far as we know you can't PM? Odd post. He's called out on that later and then claims town could probably talk on irc but Artanis tells him nope. what is forgetforeverine? i don't remember anyone saying anything about this... Parrots the argument of distrust Coagulation was using that "Fishball is untrustworthy because he operates in secret circles/town circle. But, hyperbola, THE ENTIRE BASIS OF YOUR CAMPAIGN WAS ON CREATING A TOWN CIRCLE. Back to the "Vote pandain cause he's bad and we can tell if hes mafia ez" argument that coagulation used bit of a defense for youngminii. Coagulation attacked youngminii really hard. This doesn't clear hyperbola though, there are reasons why mafia might attack another mafia but the way coagulation did it was strangely intense. If Coagulation somehow flips blue I'd SERIOUSLY consider hyperbola. Hyperbola has been mostly pretty inactive and a lot of his posts are just saying things the town had already really been talking about. I figured a mafia would drop out of the race when Mayor was revealed to be vulnerable to rolechecks and the way with which hyperbola ran his campaign fits this profile. I'd consider him as a second lynch tomorrow. A very strong target if coag flips blue imo | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:17 youngminii wrote: Holy shit lol, I didn't even realise it was night, looks like I changed my vote to Coag a bit late. Anyway, I think it's safe to say Pandain's been supported/protected by Coag a lot more than a normal townie would have. Sorry Pandain but one of my votes goes to you. Unless you can convince me otherwise ofc. Who else is there to choose from? I remember a case on Nemesis, can we get an update on him. Also, can someone do an analysis on L? I feel as if he's been a bit weak, if we look at him as a townie. His town play is usually very, very strong (targets and analyses scum well) but as far as I can remember, that hasn't been happening this game. See you might have a problem attributing strong analysis to me when you forget that the case you've mentioned isn't attributed to me. So far I've actually produced the most comprehensive analysis of any person in the game, which was vetted by a bunch of people who died and flipped blue. I've operated on very limited assumptions this game. The first of which is that during the Aeres/Youngmiini melee, most of the involved parties were blue and that mafia were staying out of the problem. So far, everyone who's died from that group has flipped blue. Second is that because of that, mafia would have been very, very quiet day 2. Go look at the people who flipped mafia since then: Divinek, Coag and Decuowhatever. All said the bare minimum, or in the case of Divinek, got modkilled for being flat out afk. So where does that leave us? DrH asked the thread to look up Nemesis. I did. He fit straight up into the middle of the qualities that all of the previous mafia members had, and what's more: He admits to them. He admits to lightly pushing people. He admits to throwing around one liners. He flat out admits he's just watching the game. His response to this? Throw shit on me now that DrH, who supported the view that he was likely a good kill today, is dead. Seems pretty open and shut on this one. The only question is whether or not we can find one of his scumbuddies to hang with him. | ||
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L
Canada4732 Posts
Shouldn't be typin' posts after drugs, alcohol and women. | ||
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Ace
United States16096 Posts
On November 07 2010 12:54 kitaman27 wrote: Since you are so great at starting bandwagons then, who should be next? We need to come up with two and I don't really see a lot of options at the moment >.< So I can hear "but Ace you started it!" as if I control 13 votes? lol I'll chill for a few more hours before I bring up my next case. Waiting to see what other Night actions come about. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
If you follow the logic it is that killing drh seems like a good move to throw us off our game and make us lynch pandain, because without the information we have today from KtheZ role claiming insane mafia pandain looks extremely bad. But then KtheZ confirms that pandain is the role he said he was which makes us look at what else DrH said, not just the surface people who he was targeting. Hyperbola is someone who he brought up very few times but with a high level of conviction in his voice meaning that when it came to today the two lynches he would of most likely proposed had he been alive would of been Pandain and Hyperbola, but we only really talked about Pandain, hyperbola was kind of left up in the air. I think the mafia killing DrH was hoping to accomplish several things. One, it kills off a 100% confirmed blue. Two, it destabilizes the town and makes us regain our footing. Three, it casts heavy doubt on pandain (if you don't take into account the insane DT check) which would overshadow Hyperbola. I think this may have been a move to try to put a lot more focus on Pandain then we would of originally had to try to hide hyperbola under a sea of shit. I don't think we should let that get away, although until I see some better targets I am still inclined to vote for both Pandain and Hyperbola, although with the insane Dt check and the aforementioned situation I am not as much inclined to kill pandain, but if no better target presents itself I don't consider the loss of a trash collector that monumental to where we should kill someone we are less sure of. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 07 2010 13:16 Pandain wrote: Veldril is safe. explain? did i miss something? | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
He can scan the alignment of one person per night. Where you have been for the last 2 days?>.> | ||
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