EPTOn November 06 2010 11:48 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
coagulation isn't good enough to play mind games
coagulation isn't good enough to play mind games
Yes, but you are forgetting that his mafia buddies could be telling him what to say.
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Yes, but you are forgetting that his mafia buddies could be telling him what to say. | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
On November 06 2010 11:56 Nemesis wrote: Yes, but you are forgetting that his mafia buddies could be telling him what to say. How many times have you been scum and your scum buddies have dictated every single thing you say? Not many, most times they would let you do what you want. | ||
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Glasse
Canada1237 Posts
On November 06 2010 12:03 youngminii wrote: How many times have you been scum and your scum buddies have dictated every single thing you say? Not many, most times they would let you do what you want. I've never been scum myself but i feel that if they know someone sucks ass they could tell him to not talk much and tell him what to answer to posts against him? | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
depends on if the person will listen i remember ghrur in the last mafia game would almost never post until he was instructed what to say by mafia | ||
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youngminii
Australia7514 Posts
plus he's posting an awful lot for someone that waits for someone to tell him everything he says | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
His role commits suicide if he protects a mafia, but how would he know the role was a mafia? If I had to guess, I would say his role commits suicide upon a mafia flipping who he had protected. Let's say Lexpar protected Coagulation and he hadn't been modkileld. When Coagulation flipped red THEN he would commit suicide, not right after he protected Coagulation. The reason I argue this is because lets say hypothetically Lexpar would of role checked a godfather, would he die instantly? If he would this would in a sense confirm a role as mafia which shouldn't be able to get confirmed under any condition. I am posing this question not just as a statement but as a question to the moderator. For Lexpar's suicide to activate, would the mafia have to be flipped by either a lynch or a night kill on the mafia? I don't like hearing people shouting about 100% innocent unless we have a real reason to think it. Besides that I have no fucking idea what you think you are doing DrH, why would you completely back off Pandain? It just doesn't make sense for you to go after two targets who are much less suspicious then Pandain for so many reasons. I don't see why you would think infinitestory would sacrifice coagulation so randomly, it is a really ballsy mafia move but usually it is done with some reason. You are being stupid in this respect. We should question his claim further after his next check. The reason I say this is because what you said has a moderate amount of merit, but not enough. The reason I say that is because his first check is something that he wouldn't need to justify with a role description, but his second claim is. The other reason I would mark this inconsistent is because he can't expect to keep "faking" this role unless he is outing MORE of his mafia members, or if he is some sort of mafia detective. Which in this game type doesn't seem completely unfeasible, but you haven't presented that as a possibility. | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
I guess Pandain is still the best choice. I'm not sure if I'd rather see hyperbola or nemesis lynched though. | ||
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RebirthOfLeGenD
USA5860 Posts
He shouldn't be consumed by guilt unless he knows hes mafia, so therefore it should require a flip or a rolechecking ability. I could of read too much into it but it was worth posing as a mod question. | ||
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Node
United States2159 Posts
I'm worried about who is going to die tonight. There's a lot of potential to damage town quite a bit, and we definitely seem to have a real plan swinging into motion. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
On November 06 2010 10:24 DCLXVI wrote: Wow so DocH says: "I.S. is my #1 suspect" --why? "Wait, let me read through his posts to find out" He faked his role by offering up another mafia teammate, sure. The way someone becomes #1 suspect is to find mafia. What is this shit? I thought about this while I went to sleep last night. It's possible that IS is red, and he totally made up his role. There's nothing to prove otherwise, other than the fact that he gave us a mafia to lynch. However, Coag didn't have a very useful role. Not totally useless, but not very useful either. So think about the following investigations. He could just say that he randomly DTed X, Y, Z (on separate days ofc) and they are all townies (while in fact, they being mafia), and if we started believing him now, we'll be in deep trouble if he manages to protect his allies. That being said though, it's kind-of a long shot, and I wouldn't go as far as to vote for him to be lynched. Not even close. The main down-sides of his plan? It takes a bit long, and he can't cover the person who's being targeted by the town, because it would seem obvious. So, given that there are 6 mafia left, assuming that he's one of them, he would still need at least 5 nights to cover all of them. If we use double-lynch again, that means we'll have killed 6 to 7 people. Again, maybe mafia did this because people were starting to zone in on the members and they needed a way out, the possibilities are endless, but let's just take it with a grain of salt and see what happens next before we go say that he's "the #1 suspect", and risk causing a bandwagon on him. I mean, what if he lucks out and gets another red tonight? Do we still lynch him?  | ||
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Lexpar
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Artanis[Xp]
Netherlands12971 Posts
On November 06 2010 13:53 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I am posing this question not just as a statement but as a question to the moderator. For Lexpar's suicide to activate, would the mafia have to be flipped by either a lynch or a night kill on the mafia? The moment he would protect a mafia member, he would have died. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
1.Dt/alignment cop, if you can, is too check me. 2.Medics need to protect people in this order: 1.Dr. H 2. Infinite 3.Me(if you don't think I'm red )4.NB 5.Other vets(Ace, Infunidiblum, L, etc...) | ||
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Qatol
United States3165 Posts
On November 07 2010 00:23 Artanis[Xp] wrote: The moment he would protect a mafia member, he would have died. And by "The moment he would protect a mafia member," Artanis means "At the end of a night wherein Lexpar's night action was to attempt to protect a mafia member," (he does not actually protect the mafia member, he dies instead). | ||
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DoctorHelvetica
United States15034 Posts
On November 06 2010 18:44 CubEdIn wrote: I thought about this while I went to sleep last night. It's possible that IS is red, and he totally made up his role. There's nothing to prove otherwise, other than the fact that he gave us a mafia to lynch. However, Coag didn't have a very useful role. Not totally useless, but not very useful either. So think about the following investigations. He could just say that he randomly DTed X, Y, Z (on separate days ofc) and they are all townies (while in fact, they being mafia), and if we started believing him now, we'll be in deep trouble if he manages to protect his allies. That being said though, it's kind-of a long shot, and I wouldn't go as far as to vote for him to be lynched. Not even close. The main down-sides of his plan? It takes a bit long, and he can't cover the person who's being targeted by the town, because it would seem obvious. So, given that there are 6 mafia left, assuming that he's one of them, he would still need at least 5 nights to cover all of them. If we use double-lynch again, that means we'll have killed 6 to 7 people. Again, maybe mafia did this because people were starting to zone in on the members and they needed a way out, the possibilities are endless, but let's just take it with a grain of salt and see what happens next before we go say that he's "the #1 suspect", and risk causing a bandwagon on him. I mean, what if he lucks out and gets another red tonight? Do we still lynch him? Until I remembered how he fished for his role way way early in the game. IS isn't mafia. | ||
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Nemesis
Canada2568 Posts
Since we have double lynch next day phase, we need to start talking about who we are planning to lynch. | ||
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Amber[LighT]
United States5078 Posts
On November 07 2010 00:57 Pandain wrote: Alright, so whats the plan? here's what I think: 1.Dt/alignment cop, if you can, is too check me. 2.Medics need to protect people in this order: 1.Dr. H 2. Infinite 3.Me(if you don't think I'm red )4.NB 5.Other vets(Ace, Infunidiblum, L, etc...) Why would meds protect a vet? It's pretty obvious that the mafia team isn't targeting vet players. There's almost a backwards scheme to their killing. | ||
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CubEdIn
Romania5359 Posts
Also, @ Nemesis' "I.S. can prove his role to us by telling us the "role" of one blue in the game and they can confirm that, but not what they can do." If he were red, he could just tell us that a fellow mafia is blue, and that fellow mafia would go "yeah he's right, I am -random role-". Both confirmed = win? It's a fairly easy role to fake, but I don't think he faked it. But we'll see as the game moves on. | ||
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Pandain
United States12989 Posts
On November 07 2010 02:04 Amber[LighT] wrote: Why would meds protect a vet? It's pretty obvious that the mafia team isn't targeting vet players. There's almost a backwards scheme to their killing. Which is why they are the 5th choice. On November 07 2010 02:26 CubEdIn wrote: Also, why would the mafia hit you (Pandain)? You're one of the prime suspects in tomorrow's lynching. Why waste a hit on you if you're blue? Just saying. Also, @ Nemesis' "I.S. can prove his role to us by telling us the "role" of one blue in the game and they can confirm that, but not what they can do." If he were red, he could just tell us that a fellow mafia is blue, and that fellow mafia would go "yeah he's right, I am -random role-". Both confirmed = win? It's a fairly easy role to fake, but I don't think he faked it. But we'll see as the game moves on. that is true. However, they may just want to kill me now so then I can't give you any more info. But that is a valid point. | ||
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