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He was thin and gaunt, he appeared to be a scholar of some sort. a revolver was pressed against his temple. With one shot, his brains were sprayed out of the window of the car LSB he heard meowing somewhere in his car. his backseat he felt what seemed to be huge claws dig into his temple, crushing his skull and ending his life. RebirthOfLeGenD smelled something awful coming from his restroom.wearing a pinstriped fedora, died from a bullet NB drank whiskey he began to feel a chill across his skin, Eventually it stopped beating. a gaunt and pale man appeared before him. "This town belongs to the Count."With a single punch, NB's body was shattered to pieces. A summary of death notes. Looking through the profiles now... | ||
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On October 14 2010 13:39 aztrorisk wrote: Nooo!!! I want to know if I have a ghost who saved me. Cries. On October 14 2010 13:41 DoctorHelvetica wrote: If someone is hit and survived I will PM them with that information. If a ghost successfully saves someone I will also PM them. It's just not public information. Hm. you apparently didn't know that someone who's hit but survived receives a PM From the mod about that fact. And now you're trying to cover it up: On October 14 2010 14:13 aztrorisk wrote: BTW, I would like to give a shoutout to the ghost that saved me (if any) In fact, the ghost did -not- save you. And none of the reds attacked you. Quit your posing. | ||
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Both the nightkilled vampires (youngminii and bumatlarge) vehemently raised suspicion against veldril. Bumatlarge pained veldril as a more important target than masq, and youngminii just kept accusing veldril. Bill Murray, before being modkilled, vehemently argued for lynching veldril and keeping masq alive to "play both sides." All these signs point toward Veldril -not- being one of the vampires. On the other hand, NB, the mafia godfather, also wanted to kill Veldril: On October 13 2010 15:33 NB wrote: so why dont we just go a head and lynch Veldir on day 2 no matter what? i mean i wont decrease the random chance of mafia killing at least 1 Vamp?... seriously dont understand why you want to let Veld live on day2 so much... are you Vamp who is trying to protect your kp?... I think there's a chance Veldril -isn't- a red. | ||
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bumatlarge On October 12 2010 14:25 bumatlarge wrote: Have to agree here, I've almost been afraid to post with the likelyhood of missing something important after skimming. But I disagree with the "everyone vote for one person" because then mafia are pushing it also, that shouldn't happen. Since neither player has a vast majority, I think it's safe to say one of them should be non-townie at least. So I'm going vendril based on I felt his defense of masq fairly weak, and townies generally dont defend random strangers with very little information. If vendril pops scum, it should be safe to say masq is same-line scum. youngminii On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote: ebwop by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote: And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing. Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this. On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote: What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat. I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour. Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it. Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post) I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell. And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril. Bill Murray, before being modkilled, also vehemently argued for lynching veldril and keeping masq alive to "play both sides." On October 12 2010 12:59 Bill Murray wrote: There is no or. They are both scum. He is trying to save his own ass, and I don't blame him whatsoever. Masq is way more harmless than Veldril. I suggest this: protect him. Mafia WOULD NOT suggest this, but we need to possibly keep him alive. The reason we need to keep him alive even if he's mafia is so we can be guaranteed to not let the other faction meet their condition. Lynch Veldril, and if he's mafia, have our ghosts protect Masq, or vice versa we can keep him alive to maintain a side. we need to play both sides. But then again, bumatlarge immediately switched sides once the outcome became apparent: On October 13 2010 08:03 bumatlarge wrote: RE-READ THREAD: MASQ SHOULD BE LYNCHED I must have misread somewhere on the veldril and masq debate, but going back, masq is the obvious lynch here. 1. He has clues pointing to him that seem a little obvious, but they are clear clues regarding something. 2. Veldril defended him, so we may have a lead if masq pops scum. 3. The vote lists will help us massively on fishing out opposing faction The first two points have been discussed to death, so make your own observations there. I underestimated what Bill said regarding the sides. I failed to realize that the objective of either side is to kill the other team, regardless of towns numbers. It's almost as if town and mafia roles are reversed, since town just need to outnumber the remaining 8 scum. That means that either side cant win until much later if they lose one member... which is assumed they will if the other faction is smart. If the two candidates for lynch (masq/veldril) contain at least one scum, we can be certain that right now on the lists contain a good number of scum from the opposite faction, depending on what they are. We just need mafia/vamps to kill each other decisively. If they don't they risk the other faction rising ahead. Therefore both teams need to rely on end game tactics. Heh, it's almost as if we don't need to do anything if scum are good players. We just need to follow clues and go with the flow. Masq is my vote, and if hes scum, then we can sift through the current list of masq people for his opposite faction. However, he wanted this post to be known. It apparently seems he wanted to hide his past support of Masq 0.0 On October 13 2010 09:27 bumatlarge wrote: I thought my Veldril -> Masq post was important  So all these signs point toward Veldril -not- being one of the vampires. | ||
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On October 14 2010 16:42 Veldril wrote: Don't jump your conclusion yet. There are several reasons that I did not die on Night 2. 1. A ghost protected me. 2. I have been poisoned, therefore will be death the next night. 3. It is better to keep me alive because I have drawn too much attention upon myself. 4. Bum and Youngminii and LSB are better target to kill than me, because they fervently wanted me to get lynched on day 1. 5. It is better to get me lynched than wasting night action/kill on me, especially when many people suspecting me as a vampire. How do you know you are poisoned? As far as the rules go, the mod never informs you if you're poisoned - only if you die of the poison. DrH can confirm this. Such lies can only serve to hurt the town by asking the ghost to protect you. What do you have to hide? | ||
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We need to remember that there are other targets that we must not lose sight of. For instance, glurio (or at least, his predecessor, Bill Murray). Poor guy, but Bill left such a visible trail that I have no doubt he's not a townie. The two confirmed vampires, bumatlarge and youngminii, were very visible in their defense of masq: youngminii On October 13 2010 08:43 youngminii wrote: ebwop by the last sentence i meant that i'm sure veldril's a better lynch candidate than masq On October 13 2010 08:41 youngminii wrote: And I'm one of the people who stood by Masq from the beginning, maybe not as strong as you wanted him lynched but I never had my vote on him. When the Masq bandwagon started I didn't want to jump on because it happened out of nowhere and Masq didn't even make that many posts. Then the Veldril bandwagon started and I put my vote on him as a placeholder kind of thing. Then Veldril makes a series of posts that are very, very questionable. Now I'm strongly against Veldril and I'm supporting Masq on the basis of his posting behaviour, not some silly clues that are unreliable at best. And no, it isn't easy to defend Masq even though I won't be lynched today. What's going to happen if he IS scum? I'll be put under suspicion or targeted by the other scum team since I'll be seen as 'Masq's ally'. Am I willing to get lynched for him? No, but I'm willing to bet that I'm right on this. On October 13 2010 08:32 youngminii wrote: What if he isn't scum? Then we have absolutely no lead to go from. We'll be put off from voting Veldril and the vote lists mean squat. I don't want to rely on clues (might be because of my lack of experience in clue based games), I'd rather play this out from behaviour. Veldril is much more obvious than Masq in behaviour. Veldril defended him yet Masq voted for Veldril. What does this mean? I don't want to think about it. Call me naive but I really don't think Masq is scum. I mean if I was new to this game and I had such an important role, I'd be defending myself (using crap arguments since I'm new) to death. Masq is not doing this. On the other hand, Veldril is. (refer to my earlier post) I implore you to change your vote to Veldril, I don't care what these 'clues' say, if they're as obvious as the jack-o-lantern thing then all the other clues would be just as obvious. I'm pretty sure DoctorHelvetica isn't stupid enough to make one clue blindingly obvious and all the others vague as hell. And yes, I am defending Masq and accusing Veldril. And all three turned out to be vampires. In the same vein, Bill Murray even directly suggested [b]having the ghost protect masq[b] EVEN IF he's a red. lol... On October 12 2010 12:59 Bill Murray wrote: There is no or. They are both scum. He is trying to save his own ass, and I don't blame him whatsoever. Masq is way more harmless than Veldril. I suggest this: protect him. Mafia WOULD NOT suggest this, but we need to possibly keep him alive. The reason we need to keep him alive even if he's mafia is so we can be guaranteed to not let the other faction meet their condition. Lynch Veldril, and if he's mafia, have our ghosts protect Masq, or vice versa we can keep him alive to maintain a side. we need to play both sides. Why else would he be so vehement about not lynching Masq, unless he knew masq was in his faction? | ||
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On October 12 2010 14:25 bumatlarge wrote: Have to agree here, I've almost been afraid to post with the likelyhood of missing something important after skimming. But I disagree with the "everyone vote for one person" because then mafia are pushing it also, that shouldn't happen. Since neither player has a vast majority, I think it's safe to say one of them should be non-townie at least. So I'm going vendril based on I felt his defense of masq fairly weak, and townies generally dont defend random strangers with very little information. If vendril pops scum, it should be safe to say masq is same-line scum. | ||
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But it looks like there isn't much other choice. | ||
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On October 16 2010 09:51 jodogohoo wrote: haha, as soon as he stops being helpful we can point all the fingers we at him, but as long as he is "actually helping" then it doesn't matter what team he's on, when the game nears it's end, if hes red hes not going to be posting anything helpful for the town. also i think we need to look at the clues, not how relevant it is, but we could use some clue discussion... also as a bonus, we know veldril deserves to die, but who else is bad? the red's are entire teams, not just individuals, we need more than just one person, we should tie suspicious people together and what not. also post history analysis is really good, i saw it in a past mafia game and it was like having maphacks In case you didn't notice. I stopped doing that shit after I got the 10th PM harassing me about it. | ||
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On October 16 2010 11:02 Coagulation wrote: we would uncover much more information by lynching bill or orgo brownbear getting lynched wouldnt tell us much if he popped red.. bill on the otherhand.... Daww, did I hurt your feelings? it's pretty funny that you're including me in every suspicion list you can just because I've been pointing out obvious signs that you might be a red. Lol even you can't list any benefit to the town by lynching me. You've never actually responded to any of my questions, by the way - the suspicions hold, and you won't be able to sidestep answering it forever. You were pretty suspicious from the beginning and tried to "joke" about voting against yourself, and bandwagoned at the first opportunity against anyone who was currently being suspected at the time. On October 11 2010 14:35 Coagulation wrote: why the hell everyone voting to kill me already? theres hasnt been a single clue relevent to me mentioned at all. jeez. On October 11 2010 14:56 Coagulation wrote: omg i found incriminating evidence against myself DoctorHelvetica was sitting at his desk deep within the Liquidvania jail. The jail used to be a dungeon when Dracula was in power and there were still bloodstains on the old stone walls. He heard footsteps coming down the hall, assuming it was the deputy warden coming to do his rounds he didn't even look back but just absorbed himself in his book on zombie history. The door creaked open and the footsteps stopped. DoctorHelvetica looked back at the open doorway but saw no one. better post let the guys know On October 11 2010 14:58 Coagulation wrote: NO i think we should all stop analysing and just keep voting for coag for no reason On October 13 2010 11:52 Coagulation wrote: PANDAIN IS MAFIA BILL IS VAMPIRE On October 13 2010 07:06 Coagulation wrote: i think masq would be our best bet for lynch. And how much of an idiot are you, to roleclaim as a zombie ON THE FIRST DAY and expect to believe that shit? On October 12 2010 06:04 Coagulation wrote: well fuck. I had no idea so what exactly is the point of being zombie then? everyone else gets actions and stuff to influence/control the game. and i get the cannon fodder role? lame. Finally, there's that matter of the voting patterns of seraph and coagulation. + Show Spoiler + On October 14 2010 12:14 Kpyolysis32 wrote: You pick up terms and stuff so fast if you read the guides on the basics of how to play If coagulation really read the basics of how to play, he would have clearly avoided what's listed as one of the most common tells of non-townies: JEEP's Tells for Finding Mafia Voting each other while FOSing (Finger of Suspicion) a non-mafia. This is very common. link: http://mafiascum.net/wiki/index.php?title=JEEP's_Tells_for_Finding_Mafia Look at the history between seraph and coagulation. First, their voting: seRapH On October 11 2010 13:48 seRapH wrote: coagulation. hang the terrorist! On October 12 2010 23:36 seRapH wrote: ##Unvote Coagulation ##Vote Masq Coagulation On October 11 2010 17:17 Coagulation wrote: seraPh On October 13 2010 05:05 Coagulation wrote: unvote seraph vote masq Both of them voted against each other, and only changed their votes towards the very end when a lynch was becoming apparent. Despite his vote, coagulation showed no effort towards bringing suspicion on seraph, and in fact has stopped mentioning him altogether in his posts after the first 12 hour period. Instead he's been pointing fingers left and right: On October 13 2010 11:52 Coagulation wrote: PANDAIN IS MAFIA BILL IS VAMPIRE On October 13 2010 07:06 Coagulation wrote: i think masq would be our best bet for lynch. What's even more damning is seraph also has -zero- posts where he mentions coagulation beyond his last comment, where he shows he really didn't have any good reason to vote for coagulation: On October 11 2010 15:15 seRapH wrote: because you're a terrorist. i'm sorry, i'm american and react badly to terrorists. give me a reason to trust you (such as contributing a valuable analysis) and maybe i'll change my mind. Go ahead, look through their posts. I can wait. | ||
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Am I writing about your use of mafia jargon? l2read please. What people disagreed with me was my pointing out of you claiming to be a noob yet using those words fluently. So I'm not talking about that anymore. There's still countless other suspicions that can be raised against you which people didn't "go over." On October 16 2010 11:28 Coagulation wrote: we already went over this and everyone told you to stop it remember? But yes, I just got a few PMs about treating you "nice." I'll leave it at that - you're not informed enough to pull off such a scheme. Let me give you a hint - if you don't have anything useful to say, stay quiet and you'll at least go halfway. | ||
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You've posted nothing but utterly useless drivel completely devoid of content without a shred of analysis. Faced with that much stupidity, it's hard not to come to some unflattering conclusion about your "intellect," if we can call it that. But hey, look on the bright side. That you have the IQ of an drunken yak probably means you're too dumb to participate in any mafia/vampire schemes. If you were actually a red, you probably would've revealed yourself long ago. So this shows that you're probably a green.  | ||
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On October 16 2010 12:11 jcarlsoniv wrote: Orgo, you are getting very personal. Do I think that Coag has made mistakes playing? Sure. I am suspicious of him, and I have held my suspicions from the start. However, there is no reason to bash his intelligence. I have been watching your posts, and you go on heavy offensive against a lot of people. You quote them and analyze them, but you attack them. Your spreadsheet was cool, nice tool for the town. I do, however, think you were using it as a means to get control of the town. You were using it to make yourself a power poster. I no longer believe your intentions are pure, as I did when I gave you the benefit of the doubt when we started. More and more you're coming on as scum to me. I post things that I notice, and show evidence that support those things, if any. If you are so offended by that, then perhaps you have something to hide - and would rather that someone does NOT place a careful eye over everyone's activities? And I've been ridiculed through both PMs as well as this thread for what was an honest effort of many hours. I should have known better than to expect any more from an internet forum -.- Believe what you may, but it was meant as a tool, not as a weapon. | ||
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