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orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 04:56 GMT
#662
Wow...

A quick look at Jodogohoo:
summary - pretended to be noob, changed vote multiple times 1st day, supported bill murray, and now supports coagulation

Details:

Vote history:

On October 11 2010 13:16 jodogohoo wrote:
seRaPh

On October 11 2010 13:42 jodogohoo wrote:
change my vote to LSB

On October 11 2010 13:54 jodogohoo wrote:
lol sure why not! change to coagulation

On October 11 2010 15:04 jodogohoo wrote:
uhh change to youngminii

On October 12 2010 01:54 jodogohoo wrote:
change to coagulation!!!

On October 12 2010 02:33 jodogohoo wrote:
change to Veldril


That's a total of 6 vote changes in the span of one day.


Post history:
(not all)
On October 11 2010 13:55 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 11 2010 13:53 orgolove wrote:

Korynne: one other person in the cafe, drove for a long distance and when she stopped in her driveway she could swear she heard a noise in the backseat, silenced gunshot


http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=kenpachi
lol a picture of itachi driving xD

On October 11 2010 15:02 jodogohoo wrote:
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On October 11 2010 15:01 youngminii wrote:
aztro you realise if shmotz is actually scum you just signed your own death warrant

wait but then that would be obvious because if shmotz kills you at night then we would suspect shmotz

wait but if scum kills you in order to frame shmotz we'd all think shmotz is scum and we'd end up lynching an innocent

but what if shmotz knew that and actually decided to kill you anyway in the hopes that town would think scum is trying to frame shmotz

this is confusing

we should kill this guy

On October 12 2010 07:47 jodogohoo wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL

LYNCH
ALL
LIARS

LYNCH EVERYONE!

On October 12 2010 09:43 jodogohoo wrote:
what about kenpachi itachi driving =(



I don't know if he's so young that he can't make up his mind, or if he's not experienced enough to make his bandwagoning so transparent.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:25 GMT
#678
Well, you have not yet provided a single response to the points I made, so the suspicion persists. Are you so flustered when a question is raised against you that the only response you can make is to accuse me back? You seemed quite well-versed when you were accusing Veldril and trying to convince the ghost to protect masq:

On October 12 2010 12:59 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 09:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Masq voting for Veldril...

Very interesting. Not sure what to think about this. O_o

He's trying to save his own ass, which indicates poorer play than Veldril.
Couple that with SR's case, and even mine on Veldril and he needs to die.

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 09:36 LSB wrote:
On October 12 2010 09:34 jcarlsoniv wrote:
Masq voting for Veldril...

Very interesting. Not sure what to think about this. O_o

Either

A) Veldril is scum and supported Masq cause he knows/thinks that Masq is townie
B) Veldril is scumbuddy and Masq wants to cut associations with him
C) Masq just wants to survive, and is voting for the next highest person.

because he is scum, and would rather bus a partner than die

Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 09:50 LSB wrote:
On October 12 2010 09:41 YummyBlaBla wrote:
Or maybe it's just mind games to play on us townies

Oh wait, if its a mind game, that probably means that Veldril is scum and they want to muddle the waters into a giant mess of WIFORM.

But maybe Masq is scum and he just wants us to come to this conclusion, and by doing this we'll waste a lynch as Veldril will be falsly accused


Or Or Or.... mind explodes

+ Show Spoiler +
Sorry just had to do that

There is no or. They are both scum. He is trying to save his own ass, and I don't blame him whatsoever. Masq is way more harmless than Veldril.

I suggest this: protect him.
Mafia WOULD NOT suggest this, but we need to possibly keep him alive. The reason we need to keep him alive even if he's mafia is so we can be guaranteed to not let the other faction meet their condition.

Lynch Veldril, and if he's mafia, have our ghosts protect Masq, or vice versa
we can keep him alive to maintain a side. we need to play both sides.

초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:28 GMT
#686
Mind you, I'm just raising questions about the patterns I noticed from everyone's posting patterns. I've yet to see any solid responses to any of the suspicions I've raised, which didn't devolve to personal attacks and simple reiteration of what I mentioned.

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html

The facts in the spreadsheet are pretty clear and easily checked - I haven't fabricated anything, and is merely there as a guide.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:35 GMT
#699
Hmm? All it takes is a simple response - no need to get upset All your raging won't change the fact - you were against Veldril from very early in the game. And now you're going as far as blackmailing someone over this vote.

On October 11 2010 15:39 Bill Murray wrote:
I am fairly happy lynching coagulation/masq, and I am glad people are voting for them.

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On October 11 2010 14:46 Veldril wrote:
Reporting in.

Many victims seems to die by a weapon, maybe most are killed by mafia? Or maybe the vampire mimic the mafia style? However, I'm not sure is this important or not.

Also, nice find Glasse. That's really helpful. But maybe we can get more clue from the first night post that make the mafia/vamp more visible.


This seems very forced. Maybe this, maybe that. I'm voting this guy. Fuck all the clue speculation, let's lynch Veldril over this post.




I doubt you can get much of a traction among those not in your faction - especially since you've proven yourself untrustworthy by posting private messages that are, you know, supposed to be "private," and resorted to blackmailing the victim- whatever he may be.


On October 12 2010 07:42 Bill Murray wrote:
aztrorisk better switch to veldril or he is a fucking liar and we are going to lynch him due to LAL

LYNCH
ALL
LIARS



Lynch them indeed.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:38 GMT
#705
By the way, the vote list in the spreadsheet is a constantly updated list of the *current votes* not any vote changes. Special cases like jodogohoo, who switched his vote 6 times, will be noted in the "notable support" section.


Oh, and your post that revealed the PMs:
On October 12 2010 03:38 Bill Murray wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 12 2010 02:47 Veldril wrote:
Vote on Bill Murray.


This is pretty damning. This is called an OMGUS. He is voting me because I have made a very good case on him, and he is pussysore about it. OMGUS = Oh My God You Suck. Veldril is standing in the grave he's digging, and it's a two plotter. One is for himself, one is for masq. Masq is mostly harmless, though, so lets get Veldril out of the way first.

I'd also like to point out these PMs I received and corresponded on with aztorisk:
Show nested quote +

aztorisk wrote:
I agree with you however, we won't be able to gather enough votes to eliminate veldril. If you can gather 2 more votes for veldril, I'll switch, if not, vote for masq so your vote does not go to waste.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Bill Murray:
all i'm saying is veldril has been both more obvious and more active. it is dangerous to leave him alive, whereas masq is mostly harmless and has 1-2 posts with no real substance.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:

I know, I don't want to vote for masq either but It wouldn't be fair for masq if we are biased because he is a SC2 pro.
-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Bill Murray:
i am more sure of veldril, plus iirc masq is good at sc2 so i'm biased

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
Theres already 4 guys on masq and 1 guy on vendril. We have a better chance of removing masq. You said that you don't care which one goes home.

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From Bill Murray:
vote with me on veldril then

-----------------------------------------
Original Message From aztrorisk:
hey can you vote for masq because we won't be able to gather enough votes for vendril. If it is masq, then we'll vote for vendril because he tried to save masq. However, if you keep your vote for vendril and he will probably not get enough votes to get lynched.:


The point of me posting this is that either two things will happen now:
A) Aztorisk switches to Veldril, fulfilling his promise to me through PM.
B) Aztorisk lies about what he said he would do.

If A, he is helping the town.
If B, he is breaking LAL, which is Lynch All Liars, and we should lynch him for not cooperating.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:42 GMT
#712
On October 12 2010 14:34 annul wrote:
in fact, YOU made up the fact that lankill was for masq, which was a blatant lie.

so i wonder if i am wrong in voting vendril, to be quite honest it is you i have caught in (now two) lies.


Hmm, from the start I said I am human, and I can make errors. As soon as I was informed of this, I made the changes asap. In fact, you can easily doublecheck anything in the spreadsheet yourself if you put in the time.

On October 12 2010 00:19 orgolove wrote:
It won't be of much help if I don't get more help on some of the info... I may make mistakes or miss somethings - I can't possibly keep track of 61 people at once all by myself.

At the very least I'll update the votes list daily...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 05:44 GMT
#720
I guess I should make it clear in the spreadsheet too, but the "vote 1, vote 2, vote 3" etc are the final votes after each night. notice how none of the future columns are filled in?
On October 12 2010 14:38 orgolove wrote:
By the way, the vote list in the spreadsheet is a constantly updated list of the *current votes* not any vote changes. Special cases like jodogohoo, who switched his vote 6 times, will be noted in the "notable support" section.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 06:07 GMT
#738
I wonder how the clues will be handled if the victim is killed from two different sources - will the resulting death description have elements of both? Will the descriptions show that it was two different people?


Anyway, latest updated spreadsheet:
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 06:26 GMT
#746
He's in TL Mafia XXXI .
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 18:55 GMT
#792
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html


It's apparent some people have had their minds up from the start - if not vs Veldril, at least to try to steer the votes away from Masq.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 19:02 GMT
#796
I summarized what I could. You could always go to the main story link to read more..
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:22 GMT
#844
Right now I'm checking everyone's current and past voting trend for this day and updating. It's still in progress, but if you want to see:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html


I added an additional column that shows each person's vote changes, if any.


NOTICE

A question about the MetalFace guy:

check out his profile and post history.



His account was made on September 27th. He has 3 total posts. His first post was in the mafia forum request thread. His only post in this thread was a cover post, asking how the voting is done. His last post is a vote against Veldril.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MetalFace

It's highly unlikely this guy is actually someone new who just found teamliquid. Who the hell joins teamliquid and makes his first post to be in the mafia game? Who the hell actually knows how to put pictures and edit their signature etc, but only have three posts?


This guy is 100% a smurf of another player here. So lame - DrH, shouldn't you be checking this kind of shit before the game starts?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:29 GMT
#847
Not just his low post count. But the fact that his first post and only posts are in the mafia forums. This is beyond damning.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:37 GMT
#855
As I compile these data, there's far too much to process alone. I hope people can use the voting patterns and other things I listed to support their points. i.e. Youngminii's response vs bumatlarge: we notice that bumatlarge has barely posted in this thread, but suddenly barges in with a lot posts to kick off Veldril. Hmm...

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:40 GMT
#858
On October 13 2010 08:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 13 2010 08:22 orgolove wrote:
Right now I'm checking everyone's current and past voting trend for this day and updating. It's still in progress, but if you want to see:

https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html


I added an additional column that shows each person's vote changes, if any.


NOTICE

A question about the MetalFace guy:

check out his profile and post history.



His account was made on September 27th. He has 3 total posts. His first post was in the mafia forum request thread. His only post in this thread was a cover post, asking how the voting is done. His last post is a vote against Veldril.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=MetalFace

It's highly unlikely this guy is actually someone new who just found teamliquid. Who the hell joins teamliquid and makes his first post to be in the mafia game? Who the hell actually knows how to put pictures and edit their signature etc, but only have three posts?


This guy is 100% a smurf of another player here. So lame - DrH, shouldn't you be checking this kind of shit before the game starts?


There are a few smurfs in this game that I am aware of. It's not something I have a problem with.




Oh really. Then next time I should register my smurf as well so that I have double the information power? What the !@#$? How the hell are smurfs allowed? It gives such an outrageous advantage. If you truly allow this, I give up. Fuck it.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:44 GMT
#864
What the fuck? Same goes for Yogy.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/profile.php?user=Yogy

Account made on October 11, FOUR total posts. Only posts in the mafia games. And you let this continue?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:44 GMT
#865
Wow. So I can proxy a smurf right now, then join in a different game completely hiding my status as the same player, and you'd never know huh?
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:47 GMT
#872
Hahaha. so, say the account "Node" is my smurf. Both myself and Node signed up for the same mafia game. The RNG gives me the Jack O Lantern and Node the Brute. I now know one blue role and all the vampires. Plus I can message the vampires and know all their information while still being a townie with my main account.

And this isn't an advantage? Lol...
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 12 2010 23:50 GMT
#874
Are you sure each player only have 1 account in the game? -_- There are countless ways you can hide your identity and pretend you are completely unrelated....


Well, if you allow this, at least know this: we definitely know that Metalface is a smurf, a.k.a. an experienced mafia player hiding behind a new face. And yet his only post in this thread was one where he tried to appear as a noob:
On October 12 2010 07:42 MetalFace wrote:
Maybe this is a dumb question, but when/where/how do we vote who to lynch?


THink on it.
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
orgolove
Profile Blog Joined April 2009
Vatican City State1650 Posts
October 13 2010 00:08 GMT
#880
All right. I updated the spreadsheet with everybody's current votes, voting patterns (changes), smurf lists, suspicious patterns etc.
https://spreadsheets.google.com/pub?key=0Ap0Ejzlf165MdENWM3p1cHNOcDlnT0o4bjNUUFdVMlE&hl=en&output=html
초대 갓, 이영호 | First God, Lee Young Ho
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