Wow just woke up for work and I see I have some reading to do! I've got a few pages in from where I left off last night and it seems a few suspects have begun to emerge. As with all past mafia games we can't rely so strongly on clues, especially on the first night, but in time they will be helpful indicators of who is scum. I actually like BM's approach the best with post analysis, as that is where you get a real inside look at the person and see their scummy tendencies.
The voting list is somewhere to keep a close eye on as well. If some people switch their votes a lot it may indicate they are just trying to hop on the latest bandwagon for safety. The Masq clue seems pretty convincing right now, but I'm going to hold my vote a little longer after I get to finishing the last couple pages and letting the discussion go a little further.
The first part is perfectly acceptable. I agree with it. Post analysis is indeed good. I also agree that people who switch votes a lot are probably bandwagon and so forth.
First interesting note: Says Masq clue is pretty convincing, but holding off the vote.
Either: He knows he will have time later so he can vote later (probable)
Or: He knows Masq is his buddy vampire and thus is waiting for someone else to bandwagon onto to vote. Guess who he chooses? The green Veldril
Not exactly. Zombies make up the bulk of the population, so they have the strongest voting power during the day. If you can get the Zombies rallied behind a cause, especially with the aid of some blues, town will get to vote whoever they want so long as they maintain their numbers. Also since there are so many townies, we have the greatest number of doing post analyses and clue analyses for our cause.
Note the use of third person UNTIL the last line. Zombies make up… Zombies rally… town will get… Not we. Aside from that, pretty obvious post, but good for he new comers. I might be picking at straws.
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Yeah I know what MH and D1 are lol, I've played some games of mafia before. I agree though, the clues on the first day especially can be misleading or simply too obvious. It's the posting actions of individuals that we should be most concerned about, coupled with voting tendencies and wild changes in who an individual votes for in a given day.
We also have the difficult task of managing where our blue roles should be focused on tonight. With so many people there are a lot of options, and a lot of ways it could go wrong. This seems to me to be more important than first day lynch vote. Sure it's possible we'll hit scum, and we may even get wind of a trail that leads to a lot of it, but as in most games unfortunately a vanilla townie gets the rope. The blue roles need to get planning and so that they can establish their circle and hopefully find scum in a more convincing manner than clue analysis.
I don't know if you're really this unaware of the rules or way the game works...Blues aren't going to out themselves so early in the game
Good posts to help the beginners.
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I'm trying to give the basics since he seems to be so unaware of how this game is played that I thought I'd lay down the foundation for him. I'm aware of how mafia games are played, I've played in plenty of them on and off this forum
He has that many posts, but if you check his history this is his first mafia game, on TL at least. So yeah, even with 1900+ posts its possible someone has never played the game before
Defending him? I'm just trying to explain to you why I was answering his questions since you questioned it.
His argument with NB. Hmm, I’d think they don’t contact each other much because if this were a planned conversation, they wouldn’t be posting it so quickly as they would try to edit it a lot and make it “perfect.” It also started from Coagulation and Seraph, so I really doubt Gila has connections to mafia right now.
You're a dick
Man there is a lot of spam on this board, some people really need to tone down on the useless one-liners with no substance. Anyway, I tried catching up this morning, after wading through a lot of shit:
Orglove is either a very enthusiastic townie, or he is a red trying to hold the reigns over a lot of newbies who will come to rely on his spreadsheet and and what I'll call "assessments." Spreadsheets are very useful, but you posting yours in every post is actually revealing information you should keep to yourself at times. But hey, you could be a very active townie and I might be off on my suspicions, I just think you might want to tone down on the spreadsheet since it has been found to be incorrect three times now I believe.
I know we really want to get our first day's lynch in order since the hours are winding down, but that also means the hours are winding down on any coordination of our blue roles. I believe Pandain is attempting to coordinate MH placements, which can be a good thing for town even if he is red I suppose since he will be gunning for the other red team. Aztorisk may have jumped the gun on his role claim so early on, but that was partially due to the fact that the rules/descriptions weren't as clear as there are now. I know BM has been throwing around some ideas for Ghost placement in terms of the Masq/Veldril thing, anyone else have a thought on that?
Anyway, back to rereading the last few pages again
So, he’s thinking about voting between Masq and Veldril. Guess who he votes, DESPITE his earlier statement of “the masq clue being convincing?” He votes Veldril. Why? Probably because when he voted, it was 18-17. That’s right, he had a chance at saving his buddy Masq for Veldril. He joined the bandwagon of Veldril to try and save Masq. Note, he doesn’t even post any reasoning on WHY he voted Veldril in the first place instead of Masq.
All pre-voting-Veldril
Righteous.
If there really was a connection between Masq and Veldril, we should expect to see mafia gunning for him tonight in hopes of snagging another vamp kill. Hopefully if any of the replacements for modkills are blues that they have enough time to catch up and get their role actions in check, we can't afford to lose those opportunities after getting such a lucky lynch at the beginning of the game. Anyway, I must be off for now, catch up on some z's, you all have a good one
Reasonable post.
That cat connection to Kpyolysis32 is about as obvious as Masq's pear connection, wow lol. Time to look through profiles and find something to do with a wretched smell
Oh look, he says another person’s hint is as obvious as Masq’s. Well, this clearly means that he thinks Masq’s connection was OBVIOUS, and that kpyolysis32’s connection is obvious too! Why did he not vote for Masq then?
This is true. As much as I'd like to think we've got another easy lynch like Masq because of an obvious clue, we can't read solely on clues and make quick accusations. Time for sleep, but I'll sleep more soundly knowing the streets run with red blood now
He says Masq was an easy lynch, an obvious clue, and once again, he never voted for Masq on the first day. His day 1 vote goes COMPLETELY against what he’s saying. Talk one way->Vote another to try to save scummy friend, seems like a vampire(since he tried to save Masq and fought with NB) to me.
I think for now I'm going to put my vote down for Veldril while I head out to work. His connection to Masq seems like a good one, and if he really is a vamp then killing him would take one KP from them and that seems huge in this game since there are so many potential KPs as is. We have some good connections for day 2, but I usually prefer voting based on activity and posting rather than clues alone since there is always the potential of red herrings.
Okay, this is reasonable, but once again, he just changed his mind onto the bandwagon for Veldril. He, once again, left the obvious clue of kpylo for Veldril.
Hmmm, throwing accusations around, interesting.
*note, his analysis of Node was too long for me to quote onto a word doc, so I just read it, thought about it, and found it pretty safe. Nothing really damning in there.*
After the analysis, gila’s posting has been pretty consistent. I mean, there wasn’t anything disagreeable about them. They didn’t seem particularly scummy, but they weren’t helpful either. It’s just clutter.
That's a really solid find SiNiquity. It fits very well: lightning strike, a large man, silver, and a hammer. Seems pretty damning so far. I'm prone to not trusting Pandain since he did say he had DTs claimed to him and that jodo was checked as vamp. Since jodo's unfortunate modkilling revealed him to be another one of our GRs, that sort of takes the wind out of Pandain's sails. I'm not sure why a townie would just lie like that though, and it makes me believe that he was either tricked or simply lied to by someone he trusted
As of right now I like Artanis as a possible lynch, but we do have plenty of time to go over clues and posts again to make sure. I recommend people continue with the analysis methodology used earlier where you analyze the posts and profiles of the person above you on the sign up list. It's a great way to find inconsistencies and clue connections that may have been missed. All in all right now I think Artanis is one of our most solid choices for lynching.
ARG, he accuses again! Let’s look at the list of his accusations(well, people who he believes to be red):
Masq
Veldril
Kpylo
Yummy
Artosis.
Who has he voted for? Only veldril. Has he ever voted with his clues despite him saying they were obvious? No. Instead, he’s been slinging shit around, trying to cast suspicion everywhere. I say that’s scummy behavior. Mixed with the fact that, ON DAY ONE, he voted Veldril instead of Masq? Pretty damning.
Also, note this intesting fact.
Here are people who voted for Veldril first day and were active in post count by the time of jaminz’s post count:
NB with 30 Youngman with 40 BM/Glurio with 56
Annul with 18
And Gila with 20.
I’d say we all think BM/Glurio seems pretty scummy, Gila does too. There’s also been 2 other reds in the group. Coincidence? I think not.
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