And Then There Were None(RAM) - Page 16

On September 08 2010 09:37 Pandain wrote:


facepalms.

Killing a town is better than not lynching. It forces mafia to take sides and helps to make them not stay back in the shadows while we kill each other.

2. So? That's my reasoning. What about it.

On September 08 2010 07:55 Pandain wrote:
And we're still deciding our plan. I do think we shoudl go after inactives for reasons stated above. As you say, its a good idea. And I would say most mafia are the inactives, and that mafia in this setup would be best just laying low and letting us lynch each other. We need to root out the mafia hiding in the shadows. We WANT the mafia to stay active. We want them talking as much as possible, so that we can analyze more and have more information, in addition to them possibly slipping up. Of course, I'm still waiting for feedback.

On September 08 2010 10:03 LSB wrote:
Let's look at Pandain's goals for the town.

He wants to kill innocents


He admits that the Main reason why he wanted to kill Bum was so that we could get some blood


And is Killing Bum enough to satiate his hunger? No!

On September 08 2010 10:14 LSB wrote:
Why don't you want to show the truth here? Why do you need to go through PM?

Are you saying that you didn't actually post those posts? Or that my interpretation of your posts are flawed?

Are you saying that killing innocents is good for the town?

Killing a town is better than not lynching

On September 08 2010 10:23 LSB wrote:
Where have I manipulated your words? I have pointed out what you have said. You have renagated on your word, changed positions on a dime and ignored your own opinions. I am keeping you accountable

You said that

How is that a 'risk'?
You specifically justified why killing townies is a good thing. I could understand your 'risk argument' if you said lets use an RNG to kill someone. But to kill someone who did not deserve to be killed, and afterwards trying to justify your kill :S.

On September 08 2010 10:26 Pandain wrote:


*sigh*
Yes, Killing a town is better than not lynching.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I SAID KILLING TOWNIES IS A GOOD THING.
How do you get that, honestly? Please, I want to know why you simply don't understand.

Please, say why not lynching is better than the chance of killing a townie. In fact, not lynching is the most anti-town thing you could do.

On September 08 2010 10:39 LSB wrote:

I pressed you, wondering what you thought about killing Bum. Instead of regret and trying to figure out what you did wrong, you responded by justifying Bum's lynch and calling him useless.

So you are saying that Killing Townies is not a good thing? Why are you justifying it? Why didn't you go for a plan that actually is good? So you knowingly pushed a bad plan and now justifying a bad plan?

A good plan: waiting till near the deadline. And then accusing someone who actually is acting scummy, rather than inactive.
The scummy target was you of course Pandian. So maybe that's why you didn't go after it.



Not Lynching = 1 more townie survived. We can also determine who is mafia from who decided to press lynches on people who did not deserve the lynch. Speaking of which Pandian...

... I find myself agreeing with you in a sense. Killing Bum allowed us to expose you, the capitalist.
Bum's death was not in vain!

On September 08 2010 10:43 Pandain wrote:


O.o. You've had too much propaganda.

So what, you want me to say that lynching bum wasn't good? In retrospect it wasn't, but if I traveled back in time I would do the same thing. He was acting scummy, useless, and uncharacteristic of his normal play. What, do you want me to reflect in game on exactly how we should've lynched, instead of moving forward? I stand by that lynch.

I don't get the "So you are...bad plan." paragraph. Clariify for me? I've advocated plans I've always felt were good... but I'm unsure as to what your saying. .

Not lynching also = free reign for mafia, no pressure on them, they can stay as inactive as possible, dont even have to talk. That is the worst thing town can do. Also keep in mind that it might also mean 1 mafia lives.

And I don't really see how I should be lynched because bum flipped. At LEAST 6 other people voted with me, if not more.

On September 08 2010 10:46 ~OpZ~ wrote:
Look, Pandain could easily be SK. I don't care about that. Pay attention to the argument though. And pay attention to who is attacking him. I went after BumAtLarge because Radfield suspected him, but didn't share too much with me. BM also did not contact me, but BM agreeing with me...That's something...I'm sure he knew something (sorry been at work). Zeks will be a fine lynch. He just showed up to defend himself when his name came up, then went away again.
Guys, stop listening to Hesmyrr. He's pretty worthless.

And LSB attacking Pandain? What?

Like seriously...BUM WAS USELESS SO FAR, so attacking Pandain, when there were EASILY 6 of us who admitted to voting for him (which the Capitalists have no reason to ever do). So obviously we should lynch someone WHO DID NOT PRESS FOR HIS LYNCH. Mafia have no reason to do anything but PM a vote. They do not need to argue whether lynching someone is beneficial or not, just spam their votes onto people. That's more important to take note of with that lynch.

LSB, my FoS is on you now.

On September 08 2010 10:56 LSB wrote:


You told me that the plan you advocated was bad.
Indeed it was, I have never seen a mafia lynched for inactivity.
I am wondering why you would defend a bad plan then?

There are other ways of applying pressure. Mafia will always post something substantial at one point of time or another.

I am pushing for your lynch because of these 4 reasons http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=15#293 And this reason http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=16#306




Are you saying that you should lynch me because I tried to go against Bum's lynch??

On September 08 2010 11:00 LSB wrote:
This plan you, on the bottom of you post http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=147690&currentpage=15#294

4) Let's look at your plan
We lynch all the inactives.
How many mafia did we kill? 0. Because like you said, they will start talking and not being inactive
How many town did we kill? A lot
What did we kill them for? So the mafia can deceive us.

You told me that the plan you advocated was bad.
Indeed it was, I have never seen a mafia lynched for inactivity.
I am wondering why you would defend a bad plan then?

There are other ways of applying pressure. Mafia will always post something substantial at one point of time or another.

Yes, Killing a town is better than not lynching.
THAT DOES NOT MEAN I SAID KILLING TOWNIES IS A GOOD THING.
How do you get that, honestly? Please, I want to know why you simply don't understand.