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LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 02 2010 16:47 GMT
#1541
(for ace)
##Unvote
##Vote: LSB
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
~OpZ~
Profile Blog Joined May 2005
United States3652 Posts
September 02 2010 16:50 GMT
#1542
...If he is town...Plz ban him.
Maybe I could teach Osama that using a plane as a wraith or dropship would be 10x better than using it as a scourge..... ^^; -Flex
Hesmyrr
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Canada5776 Posts
September 02 2010 17:20 GMT
#1543
On September 03 2010 01:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...If he is town...Plz ban him.

+ SouthRawrea
"If watching the MSL finals makes you a progamer, then anyone in Korea can do it." - Ha Tae Ki
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
September 02 2010 17:46 GMT
#1544
I have no clue what's going on.
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
LSB
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
United States5171 Posts
September 02 2010 17:50 GMT
#1545
On September 02 2010 11:25 Hesmyrr wrote:
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@Flamewheel, I'm the guy in the middle
Once is an accident. Twice is coincidence. Three times is an enemy action. Bus Driver can never target themselves I'm sorry
flamewheel
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
FREEAGLELAND26781 Posts
September 02 2010 18:12 GMT
#1546
Thank god for the "All" function. You guys post a lot ><
Writerdamn, i was two days from retirement
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 02 2010 18:13 GMT
#1547
On September 03 2010 03:12 flamewheel wrote:
Thank god for the "All" function. You guys post a lot ><

Show-off :-) I really miss that button!
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
SouthRawrea
Profile Joined June 2010
Canada608 Posts
September 02 2010 18:14 GMT
#1548
On September 03 2010 02:20 Hesmyrr wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 01:50 ~OpZ~ wrote:
...If he is town...Plz ban him.

+ SouthRawrea


Hesmyrr.. if he's town it's not mah fault! I got back the result from Ace. Nothing to ban me for.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:06 GMT
#1549
Guys we had a confirmed roleless mafia, and with how close the town has got this we could've went for a good mafia role, especially with so many suspects.
*sigh*

On September 03 2010 00:14 bumatlarge wrote:
Oh damn, I forgot to watch someone BALLS

##vote LSB


Lol its alright, I guess at least the mafia FELT threatened(thus no roleblock) And if it makes you feel any better, I almost forgot to use my role as well.
Citizen I guess I applaud you for taking the inititive, since if you knew you were town than you could assume Chaoser was most likely innocent. Therefore you knew LSB was mafia. Why would you track him? Afraid he was another role?
I know your innocent just curious. Thankfully, due to no roleblocker than obviously mafia felt scared . Why would they be...? Because they would've gotten caught. Let's see potential roleblockers:

Brownbear, caught in the lie most likely, slight chance he could be telling truth. Hasn't contributed much, inactive. Doesn't help town.
DarthThienAn-mafia slip up(4 mafia), long posts however. They contribute at the very least.
Me: Idk...make up a list why I could be mafia and I'll defend myself and my decisions. I've felt I've been at least trying to help the town.

I actually think both Darth and Brownbear are mafia. But let's also take into account the fact that citizen was hit:
Why would they do this?
1. Try to frame Darth. However, no one would've been roleblocked so why would that have mattered? He would've been cleared then(as clearly he would've freely used his mafia power if he WAS mafia and knew citizen was going to die.)
2. Darth is mafia role, visiting someone he shouldn't.
3.Darth is vanilla, and will be tracked to someone.
4. Just to try to get rid of confirmed townie(since rastaban was obviously going to be let to hit Chaoser, which would confirm Citizen.) In addition, citizen was a good role.


The thing I find most strange is the fact that no one however was roleblocked. I would think that means he didn't use his ability but then if mafia had a plan to kill Citizen, which would lead town at a uncertain decision between brownbear and darth(as either could've used their RB abilities that night.), then why wasn't anyone roleblocked?

Needless to say, it is all very confusing and most likely mafia was trying to get us to use lots of wifom.
Delving into that forbidden zone however leads to some interesting results. Let's say darth is mafia and had use his roleblocking ability. He could very well say the next day that it was brownbear who used it, and mafia was trying to frame him. One man against another.
If brownbear was mafia, than he would've easily used his roleblocking ability. Because he knew citizen was going to die and knew(wrongly) he could use this against Darth to stay alive more likely.

Using wifom is questionable at best however,and I suppose it is negligible. Is that wifom actually, since I sort of derived it one from another. I suppose I'm predicting their actions, so yes? Idk... use at your own peril.
So let's see:
Things we need to know:
1. JeeJee claim. Are you alignment cop? Or are you(I don't think so but...) medic.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:16 GMT
#1550
Also heres the plan:
So here's the possible mafia:
1.Rastaban(unlikely)
2.Fishball(I think unlikely, i'll put it at maybe)
3.Darth
4.Brownbear
5.Divinek(maybe/unlikely)
6.Me(I'm pardoner dumbpandas) [

Compared with the confirmed townies:
Sinquity, Opz, Citizen, Bumatlarge.

Compare it with the possible Roleblockers:
1.Brownbear
2.Darth
3.Me(I suppose...objectively.)

Now Don't lynch me......... Fishball can track me.

We CV Darth/Brownbear(whatever you guys want.)

I want medics protecting the confirmed list, and us to go through pottential roleblockers(except me),
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 02 2010 19:45 GMT
#1551
Go ahead and CV me. I don't want to have to deal with the retard-train tomorrow.
SUNSFANNED
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#1552
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 02 2010 19:50 GMT
#1553
Citizen I guess I applaud you for taking the inititive, since if you knew you were town than you could assume Chaoser was most likely innocent. Therefore you knew LSB was mafia. Why would you track him? Afraid he was another role?
I know your innocent just curious.


This is a bit incorrect: I did not know Chaoser was most likely innocent. Even if he said he knew I was town, he could have been covering for Opz, or someone else on that list of 5. Unlikely, but possible. My push to CV LSB for a 2nd night in a row was based on the argument that I did not want to give the mafia extra options.

It was also possible the CV would get role-blocked last night; Fishball said he would not investigate one of Chaoser/LSB because it's "idiotic" (after initially asking for suggestions; and yelling at Radfield to "never use that tone with him" for much lesser statements). At any rate. today the town could still have to solve the "who is the traitor" puzzle, possibly wasting another lynch. You were hell-bent on lynching Chaoser "for information", for example.

Finally, while I certainly could have tracked someone else, the tracker role is not that great since anyone with any role will not "go" to the mafia kill victim. I thought of trying to find the role-blocker, but as it turns out they seem to have not visited anyone, so that would have been a waste even if I guessed the right person. I also guess most of the mafia will have SOME role, since the "plan" guaranteed them roles like the Godfather/Pardoner/etc. - once again making tracking ineffective even if I have the right person.

So I made the boring choice and checked LSB to be 100% certain the traitor puzzle was solved last night one way or another.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 02 2010 20:08 GMT
#1554
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:14 GMT
#1555
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?
citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 02 2010 20:18 GMT
#1556
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:23 GMT
#1557
On September 03 2010 05:18 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?


Because he will be killed. And if brownbear is roleblocker you will have tracked him to Rastaban. and if rasta gets blocked then we know darth is the roleblocker.


citi.zen
Profile Joined April 2009
2509 Posts
September 02 2010 20:38 GMT
#1558
On September 03 2010 05:23 Pandain wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:18 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?


Because he will be killed. And if brownbear is roleblocker you will have tracked him to Rastaban. and if rasta gets blocked then we know darth is the roleblocker.



This is what you proposed:

On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

Who will shoot DTA? And why would we shoot him over a confirmed liar who hasn't done anything the entire game?
Aut viam inveniam, aut faciam.
Pandain
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
United States12989 Posts
September 02 2010 20:44 GMT
#1559
On September 03 2010 05:38 citi.zen wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 05:23 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:18 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:14 Pandain wrote:
On September 03 2010 05:08 citi.zen wrote:
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

No:
Telling BrownBear that he will be tracked is a bad idea. If he has any role and "stays home" we get nothing but confusion. I believe that if he is red he has a role, for reasons I already stated. Given the nature of my role I am not going to announce who I am tracking, to keep people honest. The same could be true for the watcher I guess.

Also, I'd rather ask Rastaban to shoot BrownBear than himself (is that allowed) next night cycle.


See, but I think announcing who you're going to track will help us anyway, because they will not use their roles. WE are going to lynch both of them anyway, as I at least suspect both of them heavily, and in addition they are part of the unconfirmed townies.
For example, last game they didn't roleblock anyone, probably because they were afraid of getting tracked. If darth is roleblocker, we kill him. If Brownbear is, he can't use his role. Either way, the roleblocker will either be forced to not use his power or he will be dead.

Do you see my point?

I must confess I do not see your point. How would we know DTA is the RB if I tracked BrownBear?


Because he will be killed. And if brownbear is roleblocker you will have tracked him to Rastaban. and if rasta gets blocked then we know darth is the roleblocker.



This is what you proposed:

Show nested quote +
On September 03 2010 04:50 Pandain wrote:
Okay does everyone agree with this?
Fishball checks me
Tracker checks brownbear
Rasta shoots CV

Medics protect confirmed townies. I do as well.
Everyone agree?
Watcher watches me(in case I get roleblocked/fishball isn't BB and theres a huge conspiracy LOL. Just defense for me.

Who will shoot DTA? And why would we shoot him over a confirmed liar who hasn't done anything the entire game?


ROFL epic fail. How would rastaban shoot himself? I mean for him to shoot darth.
1.He's not "totally" confirmed. Just most likely. remember that. I mean, his excuse is paltry at best and he totally said it way too late but I feel as of now that if darth and brownbear are both mafia, getting rid of darth will be better.
BrownBear
Profile Joined March 2010
United States6894 Posts
September 02 2010 21:24 GMT
#1560
On September 03 2010 05:38 citi.zen wrote:
Who will shoot DTA? And why would we shoot him over a confirmed liar who hasn't done anything the entire game?


Are you special or something? I never lied.
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