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SouthRawrea
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On August 27 2010 18:05 ~OpZ~ wrote: And no, that wasn't a soft blue/green claim, I followed the plan, I just know someone low on the totem pole had to of picked alignment cop. Makes sense to add as much detective power as possible. It's an important role, as much as radfield tried to diss it. -_- If role cop feels like finding traitor, check about south or check south. If rolecop feels like finding mafia? Check below the list. Honestly, this traitor shit, could just be to get mafia to waste night actions on the top of the list too. They are kind of useless roles for town up there. | ||
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citi.zen
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Chaoser - too quiet for my taste / not trying to contribute LSB - went over his posts yesterday, he responded fine, but can't hurt to check BrownBear - Too quiet / not trying to contribute siNiquity - A few strange posts here and there, like the little exchange with Fishball or the early argument that we as long as number picks are kept secret we don't need a weighting algorithm Divinek - odd pick + shooting on day 1, even if it was BM. At the end of the day I fear Radfield might be right guessing we don't have that many investigative roles despite the plan, so we'll need to at least force more forum activity out of people. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On August 21 2010 01:16 Pandain wrote: Mason...indeed. I was thinking that. Or we could incorporate everyone in my secret friendship alliances into THE Secret Friendship Alliance and have each person be Mason, Pardoner, Martyr and even a Bad Santa to ensure that no SFA member will backstab each other. Pandain, I love you, and that plan was actually pretty...brilliant. Lol. Why we didn't make Bad Santa's list for him is insane. Radfield, JeeJee, Fishball, ~OpZ~, and Subversion (Darth can/should be swapped in there with any other person, I honestly just forgot he was playing) would of been a decent list. Vet's would want to off other vets, especially if they were in position to get good roles. (Subversion may not be a vet, but he was in a good position for a good role that would be worth offing. One of me, Radfield, JeeJee, Fishball is likely mafia. Radfield always dies night one, and if he lives past = mafia/vet/LUUUUUUUCKY/SK (sk also applies as lucky)) On August 21 2010 05:15 SouthRawrea wrote: It'd be extremely beneficial for town and for any players thinking of taking traitor to avoid taking it. If you join the maf, you don't add a KP but just make it harder for us to kill the entire maf team off which actually is fairly easy if confirmed people are already established and we have our investigative roles alive. If you end up picking a power role however, you're taking a possibly significant role away from the opposing team, giving your team a bigger benefit than just adding a member. (Basically if you join maf by choosing traitor, you're not really helping them. If you stick with town by picking another role, you add a potentially good role to town/take one away from the opposing team. Not to mention if mafia is shafted with having one of the last picks, they may end up getting traitor which would be completely useless to them. Another superbonus :D) Stick with town. Fight team fight! -___________________________-;;;;;; On August 21 2010 06:09 chaoser wrote: How do you know mafia's got only 4 people...it's not listed in OP how many there are... Darth is always a good lynch candidate/kill. He's...Different. Lol. So we should consider getting him to post. Also, he said mafia has 4. It had been posted so much by different people I just assumed it was four just a few pages ago, and iirc Citizen corrected me, telling me the number isn't in the OP. How did we miss this, but I wouldn't expect this mistake from Darth, and I'm leaving out the post afterwards, so here's the link. But we should definitely be suspicious of him. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=141431¤tpage=8#153 Darth had some HEFTY support of Radfields plan, and I don't see him around no more. Radfield even posts defending Darth's possible slip up. + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2010 07:03 Radfield wrote: meh, I was also assuming there were 4 mafia. All this shows is that Darth played PYP1. With the influx of anti-town roles, I can't imagine there are any more than 4 mafia, which means there are either 3 or 4. Could be a mistake, as I said, but notice how connected they are. On August 28 2010 01:09 SouthRawrea wrote: Well if town really wants to take a leap of faith for me, we should find the next candidate for a traitor and off me in the night. Why are you so concerned about this? Why should we off you? DO YOU WANT TO DIE? =/ Seriously, is there a village idiot role I didn't know about? OMG, that's it. SouthRawrea is village idiot!! He win's if he gets lynched/killed by town!! -___- Serious time. Radfield, who do you best feel should be tracked? Same question to anyone that feels like answering. Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla? (Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!) BrownBear, Mr. Godfather of TL Mafia Porn, plz let me know some of your thoughts as of yesterday. The lynching of Hesmyrr. Someone please explain why we didn't lynch the PoD? He was in just as boring a spot as Hesmyrr was, except he KNEW he had a role he would never get to use. Zeks had role cop, a decent role in comparison. (We need atleast one medic protect Zeks, I had forgotten to say this, but he is still less useful than tracker/bulletbill in my eyes, so I honestly don't know how I feel) Why would Zeks go traitor then? PoD would be a better position to go traitor. LSB would be a better target, and has so far escaped much scrutiny. Meaning, BrownBear, step your game up of I will seriously press you. You set around last game a little to complacently. This post was originially dedicated to LSB, but fuck. Dude offered to be day vig'd instantly. =/ He could of picked traitor tho, but I dunno. I feel I've moved a hefty amount of content into this, and I need to go, at GF's so....Yea... Radfield I'm going to come back to you, but as a note to self... + Show Spoiler + On August 21 2010 08:52 Radfield wrote: Another consideration, If jeejee is picking 1, and presumably will be drafting first, is he prepared to take CompVig. If not, I see that as extremely anti-town. If he doesn't want CV then fine, pick another number, but whoever gets to draft first HAS to take CV. Likewise, if Darth is picking second, is he prepared to take Copy Cat. Again, it's very important that we know where Copy Cat is. The reason being, some random mafia gets Copy Cat, and we lynch a vanilla townie on day 1, then on night 1 the mafia can kill the CompVig and Swipe the role. Of course the doctor comes into play, so this probably isn't that big of concern. Anyways, the real question is, are people prepared to follow a town role picking plan, or are people simply going to pick whatever they want to pick. On page ten you were talking about copy cat...I missed much of the early discussion, mainly because I refuse to play PYP til Draft/Pick phase are over. I did it last game too, so until I look again at Radfield, don't lose any sleep. I'm gonna check it out, but I dunno yet. Sorry Radfield, kinda turned into a post against you kindaish, but I'll be looking over BrownBear/you/Darth, and anyone who supported your plan instantly. Conclusion, LSB is likely town. -_______- Darth+Radfield, possible connection. Actually, just skimmed Darth before I go, he should definitely be put under a microscope. Lots of posts, but besides his post last page and him posting supporting Radfields plan, no content afterwards. No opinion one way or the other. Darth would possibly be a good BulletBill.... | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla? (Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!) -_____- DID NOT KNOW about Vanilla being returned til I reread thread. I ignore Ace a lot. Habit, sorry. Yes, rolecop. You should be checking someone up in the clouds of the pick world. Below five, but over 14 -15. | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On August 28 2010 02:36 citi.zen wrote: In the spirit of offering my thoughts before the night comes, here's my list of people worth investigating: Chaoser - too quiet for my taste / not trying to contribute LSB - went over his posts yesterday, he responded fine, but can't hurt to check BrownBear - Too quiet / not trying to contribute siNiquity - A few strange posts here and there, like the little exchange with Fishball or the early argument that we as long as number picks are kept secret we don't need a weighting algorithm Divinek - odd pick + shooting on day 1, even if it was BM. At the end of the day I fear Radfield might be right guessing we don't have that many investigative roles despite the plan, so we'll need to at least force more forum activity out of people. You should take a look at Darth. BrownBear does need to post more. And I'm comfortable on LSB as of right now...wait...shit...I dunno if he knew his role as of then, but he offered himself up to be day vigged in a plan that...involved pms...haha fuck I forgot that. DAMMIT. I deleted my post...>___< *im crying right now, so upset with myself. On August 26 2010 22:35 rastaban wrote: @Opz, this is also why role cop was considered so good. If town took 0 KP roles then when RC found one we could lynch them, it also made BB able to lynch when he found a gun since it was mafia. Since we now have the day vig claiing to be town, and possibly others this method isn't as sure fire, because BB will find he has a gun just like he finds mafia have a gun. RC sees him with a KP role, that we left to go to mafia. Thank you. It's upsetting to me though. I also severely distrust good players. And for some reason I didn't read page 36. Wtf. | ||
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Pandain
United States12985 Posts
On August 28 2010 00:58 Radfield wrote: [/list][*]Pandain ---- Mason How do you know I'm mason  | ||
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bumatlarge
United States4567 Posts
Jester you ways are foriegn, but your lake is sound and your babbly logitimicatel pleasent. Though the humor in your face leads me to beleive you dabble in the sardonic? Intriguing. Perhaps the time is now? Let me check my wrist device... Egad indeed, the time IS now! Good heavens. And undereestimate no role. I recall a life I lead not so long ago. The king was hard, but he has died recently. He graced me with a peculiar item that age. A wooden pedestal of sorts, yet the base spread into the ground like a organism. If I stepped upon the object, my glory of innocence was shown to all the denizens! But alas, the power would absorb me into the wood, and draw my lifeforce into those who would curse what I stood for. I despised the device. Every day, I cursed its name and poured my malice through its veins. But exposure opens up the mind to all sorts of ideas. Another beside me claimed power, license to kill , he claimed his god would save us. Trust was difficult to come by after what he had wrought, but we agreed. I found power in my object then. I opposed his ideals, with the eagerness to prove my worth brimming with the same hatred I had embeded into the Wood. I was believed, just by the ridiculousness of what I was. "How could one so ignorant be so dangerous" The threat of my role gave me acknowledgement, however foolish the basis of it was. I killed that man, Id like to think. Hes dead here also, murdered by his own scum brother. I rid myself of their aquaintance. But a lesson is found. Even the weakest townie holds sway just by existence. What he brings to the table is the reason why mafia fear extermination for their foul pacts with satan. Good will prevail with hope in what we can do together. I believe this deity knows of karma. | ||
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Fishball
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SouthRawrea
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LSB
United States5171 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:12 SouthRawrea wrote: What's with all the confusion about the type of vanilla? Night post said it was Vanilla townie and the colour of the word was green? I think he's wonder what kind of result the role cop would get. Ace already said that Vanilla Sk/Mafia/Town would return the same result. Vanilla | ||
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~OpZ~
United States3652 Posts
On August 28 2010 04:17 LSB wrote: I think he's wonder what kind of result the role cop would get. Ace already said that Vanilla Sk/Mafia/Town would return the same result. Vanilla On August 28 2010 04:12 SouthRawrea wrote: What's with all the confusion about the type of vanilla? Night post said it was Vanilla townie and the colour of the word was green? ...should I repost my whole thing MINUS that role cop shit? Or is that what everyone is going to talk about. I put a challenge on everyone in there. What should the tracker do, in their opinion. Now please post that. I think I made a post explaining it already as a matter of fact. On August 28 2010 02:40 ~OpZ~ wrote: EBWOP: Why would you propose checking zeks role, as opposed to someone low on the list, who is more likely to return a role of Vanilla? (Ace, is it Vanilla Town, Vanilla Mafia, or just Vanilla? Plz God tell me it's Vanilla Town/Mafia, not that I care too much anymore. Playlist should be decent I figured but so many vets not posting shit. Damn, this question is answered already, nevermind. DAMMIT FUCK WE LISTENED TO RADFIELD. I guess I can't sit out before picks now god dammit!) -_____- DID NOT KNOW about Vanilla being returned til I reread thread. I ignore Ace a lot. Habit, sorry. Yes, rolecop. You should be checking someone up in the clouds of the pick world. Below five, but over 14 -15. yea...I did. You all gonna do something now or keep talking about that? There is more in my post than that. | ||
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JeeJee
Canada5652 Posts
On August 28 2010 03:29 bumatlarge wrote: It would appear his slinking has come to rest. Vanilla is vanilla unlike chocolate, it is just vanilla. But vanilla can be good or evil, if my philosophy fails me not. Suspicion agreed upon the field of radicals, and the darth in the darth. Accept you yoke of guilt! Jester you ways are foriegn, but your lake is sound and your babbly logitimicatel pleasent. Though the humor in your face leads me to beleive you dabble in the sardonic? Intriguing. Perhaps the time is now? Let me check my wrist device... Egad indeed, the time IS now! Good heavens. And undereestimate no role. I recall a life I lead not so long ago. The king was hard, but he has died recently. He graced me with a peculiar item that age. A wooden pedestal of sorts, yet the base spread into the ground like a organism. If I stepped upon the object, my glory of innocence was shown to all the denizens! But alas, the power would absorb me into the wood, and draw my lifeforce into those who would curse what I stood for. I despised the device. Every day, I cursed its name and poured my malice through its veins. But exposure opens up the mind to all sorts of ideas. Another beside me claimed power, license to kill , he claimed his god would save us. Trust was difficult to come by after what he had wrought, but we agreed. I found power in my object then. I opposed his ideals, with the eagerness to prove my worth brimming with the same hatred I had embeded into the Wood. I was believed, just by the ridiculousness of what I was. "How could one so ignorant be so dangerous" The threat of my role gave me acknowledgement, however foolish the basis of it was. I killed that man, Id like to think. Hes dead here also, murdered by his own scum brother. I rid myself of their aquaintance. But a lesson is found. Even the weakest townie holds sway just by existence. What he brings to the table is the reason why mafia fear extermination for their foul pacts with satan. Good will prevail with hope in what we can do together. I believe this deity knows of karma. the fuck is this? im getting you killed. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
 Darth is a good choice for BulletBill. JeeJee is a good option for tracker. I would also support Fishball or Bumatlarge. Both pick #2 and pick #3 are good options for an investigative role as well, as those are dangerous slots. Alternate options for BulletBill would be any of the players listed above, except for Chaoser at pick 2(Bad Santa will return a positive) I think rolecop should look at zeks, but of course Chaoser or LSB would be fine as well. Joat, if you are going to use your 'investigate' tonight, I recommend not looking at any of the first 6 picks. Those spots will likely get resolved through checks and lynches over the next few cycles. Instead I would look further down the list. Players not worth checking in my eyes are Opz, Citizen, Brownbear(modkill?), Siniquity, Divinek or Pandain. However, a check on any of these players is fine as well. Citizen, the watcher role sucks, so we don't have to fear too much about mafia finding out our blues through us telegraphing our moves. There is no other role that has that kind of investigative power. Doctors, this may sound cheesy, but I recommend one of you look at protecting me tonight. I have a fairly long history of dying night one, and I plan on doing some serious scum hunting this weekend. Consider it at any rate. | ||
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BrownBear
United States6894 Posts
And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off. | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote: I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla. And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off. WTF? I said to NOT claim. Claiming helps the mafia far more than helping town. Do not claim your roles! | ||
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Divinek
Canada4045 Posts
On August 28 2010 07:48 BrownBear wrote: I'll claim. I missed the rolepicking deadline, so I'm vanilla. And I know I've been inactive, I'm sorry. It's about to be orientation week and I'm working my ass off. why would you tell them you're vanilla oh my god jasoifsjeiorjs hey look someone for the mafia NOT TO KILL why did you even sign up for this game if you have no time, you never seem to, it's seriously annoying | ||
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zeks
Canada1068 Posts
but note that he's Vanilla by not picking at all not picking something that was picked | ||
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Radfield
Canada2720 Posts
Assuming people followed the plan(  ), we have 4 possible role cops.Zeks: Could be traitor Fishball: 50% Role Cop, 50% Defensive Role Brownbear: Vanilla Bill Murray: Mason Good chance we have no role cop.... Anyways, Fishball becomes a higher priority medic protection. Mind you he is still a 50% Defensive role, but if Mafia have a roleblocker, they may roleblock + NK. It's what I would do. Not even sure who's around right now. Remember medics, there are 2 of you(hopefully) and the Joat, so feel free to flip a coin or RNG between the potential candidates. | ||
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DarthThienAn
United States2734 Posts
@Opz: I'm fine with BB checking me. Sure, I haven't been posting as much as I usually do, but I'll suffer the consequences if necessary. Shame that this isn't a PM game - I guess our investigative roles can all come out at the same time (whenever we decide is best) with several results and be like "Bam, bam, bam, mafia!" and we can work from there? Tracker should check either chaoser/LSB imo. Assuming they followed the plan, they have the best mafia roles - they shouldn't be visiting anyone tonight, so if they do, you know what's up. | ||
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